The Schumer Shutdown

[GoldenBoy89]

Its such a shame that Schumer is putting politics above the American people. He's causing pain instead of keeping the government open. All because he thinks he's going to score political points. It's going to backfire.

Democrats have already lost everything. What does Schumer have to lose by keeping this going? If neither side will back down then both sides are equally responsible for the shutdown dragging on.

 

[Servus]

The Democrats are hoping for as much of 2026 victory as possible, and therefore most everything they're doing is what they think will get them results. They've become the party of really bad policies and ideas, and they're going full steam ahead with that.

 

[7thKeeper]

Whoo boy... Let's go through some misconceptions and out right falsities in that list.

Why do you worry about soybean money from China? Trump's tariffs are raking in hundreds of billions, not to mention the hundred billion dollar investments overseas companies are making here as a result. U.S. Tariff Tracker | How Much Are U.S. Tariffs Raising in Revenue? | Bipartisan Policy Center

That money is coming off of US tax payers pockets. So you've lost all money coming from China in this regard and are about to give, was it 20 billion to the country that took pretty much all of the business you lost.

Noteworthy deals in 2025

• European Union (EU):In July 2025, the U.S. and the EU finalized a major trade deal.
  • EU commitments: Pledged over $600 billion in U.S. investments by 2028 and $750 billion in purchases of U.S. energy products, such as liquefied natural gas (LNG).
  • U.S. commitments: Agreed to reduce tariffs on most EU imports to a 15% rate, down from a previously threatened 30%.

There is no deal. That's right, there is no signed deal at all. This is what von der Leyen suggested, but right now it looks to be receiving enough resistance from the parliament that it's not going to be signed, because so many groups think it's a bad deal.
Unlike what some in the US seem to think, von der Leyen doesn't have the authority to agree to something like this, it has to be voted on.
Also, some the details are outright false. EU didn't agree to 600 billion in investment. In fact, EU didn't promise to invest a single dollar or euro. What von der Leyen said is that EU companies would do so. Well try to. Because the EU has no means to force private entities to invest in the US if they don't want to. A "please?" is essentially the most.
This is kinda the same when, I think it was during the last Trump term, there was supposedly a huge deal with China that would invest billions into the US. Which never happened and only a small, small fraction ever occured.

• Japan:The U.S.–Japan Strategic Trade and Investment Agreement was finalized in late July 2025.
  • Japanese commitments: Pledged $550 billion in U.S. investments and increased purchases of U.S. automobiles and energy products.
  • U.S. commitments: Agreed to lower tariffs on Japanese auto imports to 15%, with similar caps on tariffs for pharmaceuticals and semiconductors.

This is also so far a non binding agreement. Nothing is certain yet and the elections that were in Japan a little while ago would affect this as well as, from what I remember, the new PM wasn't a fan of this and has said that the agreement would be re-examined.

• Middle Eastern investments:Foreign investment pledges in the U.S. were also made by several Gulf nations.
  • United Arab Emirates: Committed to investing $1.4 trillion in the U.S. over the next decade.
  • Qatar: Pledged to generate $1.2 trillion in an economic exchange with the U.S..
  • Saudi Arabia: Committed $600 billion in U.S. investments over four years.

I could find so veryfew details on these that's it's hard to say anything about them right now. So far it seems to be just more of the same "oh yeah, sure we'll do it" without anything concrete.
Besides UAE getting Nvidia chips and a crypto startup Trump is involved in getting investment money.

• U.S. neighbors:New tariffs were a major factor in trade relations with Canada and Mexico. The U.S. imposed tariffs using powers under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), citing illegal immigration and illicit drug trafficking, but exempted qualifying goods under the U.S.–Mexico–Canada Agreement (USMCA).
  • Canada: Faced increased tariffs on most goods and a 10% tariff on energy products, with higher rates for transshipped goods.
  • Mexico: Initially faced a 25% tariff on most goods, with higher rates proposed but later delayed.
• China: A temporary agreement was reached to reduce tariffs previously imposed by both countries, but other tariffs remained in effect. The U.S. also maintained a baseline tariff on all goods from China.

Potential benefits for America

• Increased foreign investment: Pledges of hundreds of billions of dollars in investments can lead to the creation of new facilities, expansion of U.S. manufacturing, and job growth.
• Export growth: Purchase commitments, such as the EU's pledge to buy U.S. energy products and Japan's purchase of U.S. agricultural goods, can increase U.S. exports and support domestic industries.
• Lower consumer prices: Removing or reducing tariffs can lead to lower prices for imported goods, which benefits U.S. consumers.
• Market access: Trade agreements provide American companies with greater access to foreign markets and help level the playing field by reducing trade barriers imposed by other nations.
• Stronger alliances: Trade deals can strengthen diplomatic ties and alliances with partner countries.

Did... Was this list just blindly created using an LLM? That's what it reeks of.

 

[camille70]

Its such a shame that Schumer is putting politics above the American people. He's causing pain instead of keeping the government open. All because he thinks he's going to score political points. It's going to backfire.

There's going to be a lot more pain for a lot more people if those subsidies expire. I almost didn't renew my health care plan last year because it went up. If it goes up even a quarter more, let alone doubles, I won't be able to afford coverage. I'm trying to get all my vaccines in and prescriptions renewed before January just in case.

 

[eclipsenow]

There's going to be a lot more pain for a lot more people if those subsidies expire. I almost didn't renew my health care plan last year because it went up. If it goes up even a quarter more, let alone doubles, I won't be able to afford coverage. I'm trying to get all my vaccines in and prescriptions renewed before January just in case.

I'm so sorry to hear all that. If the USA gets too awful, is there any chance you and yours would move to Australia? Once you became citizens Medicare he is so much better!

 

[Always in His Presence]

-- A2SG, because the GOP doesn't care about anything but tax cuts for billionaires.....

psst.... while off topic - this well worn Democratic byline was debunked during Trump's first term - who debunked it - oh, the IRS

Props to the never ending repeating, but no one believe it anymore - it might just be why the Democrats are in chaos and have historically low ratings -

But please - feel free to repeat it as of ten as you please - it helps Republican gain votes.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Great breakdown of the Schumer shutdown and who is applauding it. First time in history a party has shut the government over a clean CR.

 

[A2SG]

psst.... while off topic - this well worn Democratic byline was debunked during Trump's first term - who debunked it - oh, the IRS

Props to the never ending repeating, but no one believe it anymore - it might just be why the Democrats are in chaos and have historically low ratings -

But please - feel free to repeat it as of ten as you please - it helps Republican gain votes.

Okay, fine. I'll lay off the tax breaks for billionaires bit if you can show me that Republicans care about health care subsidies for those who need them.

-- A2SG, ball's in your court, dude....

 

[camille70]

I'm so sorry to hear all that. If the USA gets too awful, is there any chance you and yours would move to Australia? Once you became citizens Medicare he is so much better!

If the worst comes to worst I have a sister who lives in Switzerland. Her ex is Swiss German and after they divorced she liked the country so much she stayed. She asked about my health insurance already and offered to help pay for it if needed, but I don't want to go that route.

I love this country, with all its faults, but I want to see it improved, not destroyed. IMO, the people in charge are destroying it. All the people who used to champion states rights and the constitution seem happy to have it shredded if done so in the service of a cause they support. We are committing human rights abuses and terrorizing our own citizens. I'm praying we survive and that all things truly will work for good.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Okay, fine. I'll lay off the tax breaks for billionaires bit

No - no please don't stop! It helps the Republican Party in numerous ways - please continue. Maybe add in 34 convictions and sex accusations - that's been having great results!

if you can show me that Republicans care about health care subsidies for those who need them.

CBO: Democrats Covered Up Widespread Fraud and Abuse in Federal Health Programs​

Recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that Democrats conducted a years-long, massive cover-up to defraud American taxpayers in order to subsidize fraud, waste, and abuse in federal health programs, including using loopholes to provide free health care to illegal immigrants. Republicans put an end to these generous unjustified subsidies and instead lowered premiums for those properly enrolled in the program and provided a massive tax cut to the middle class in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill, signed into law on July 4th.​

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Lawmakers requested CBO provide critical context behind their topline coverage estimates resulting from the health reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill. CBO’s latest analysis makes clear that The One, Big, Beautiful Bill is not taking coverage away from hardworking Americans but is ending billions in subsidies for illegal immigrants, cracking down on fraud, and restoring integrity to health care programs. CBO estimates that the policies in the new law dealing with health insurance marketplace premium tax credit eligibility would reduce those who should not be getting taxpayer subsidies by 2.1 million in 2034.​

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Additionally, CBO confirms Republicans’ concerns with massive improper enrollment in Obamacare. The agency not only finds that Democrat policies have led to at least 2.3 million fraudulent enrollees in Obamacare, but also that common sense Republican program integrity reforms in The One, Big, Beautiful Bill will lower premiums for those truly eligible for the program while putting an end to these abuses.​

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Why do the Democrats want 1.2 trillion in fraud re established? Ever wonder about that.

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025...d-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-programs/
-- A2SG, ball's in your court, dude....

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2025...d-fraud-and-abuse-in-federal-health-programs/
I'm not a dude - I don't work on a ranch.

White House says it will use tariff money to fund nutrition program amid shutdown​

Why don't the Democrats care as much?