THE RULE OF FAITH AND PRACTICE IS ALWAYS SCRIPTURE "ALONE" 2

[Carl Emerson]

Then you have just agreed with the OP you did not read. Scripture is the only rule of faith. Of course John 6:63 is a reference to the bible. God's Word is in the bible is it not?

I read it but realised immediately that your use of scripture was flawed and you definition of "God's Word" was confused.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Think about what you have just said and let me ask you a question. Are the words Jesus has spoken to us in the bible? If you answer yes then you have just disagreed with what you just wrote.

Heaps of Words Jesus said are not in the bible. The bible tells us that.

You see reading the bible does not mean you hear God's Word.

God's Word is NOT the Bible.

Satan quoted the Bible and it was not God's Word.

 

[timothyu]

Even Jesus used scripture to get the word of God across.

 

[pescador]

Then you have just agreed with the OP you did not read. Scripture is the only rule of faith. Of course John 6:63 is a reference to the bible. God's Word is in the bible is it not?

John 6:63, "The Spirit is the one who gives life; human nature is of no help! The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."

Is this the verse that you meant? The first part is about the Spirit vs human nature. The second part is about the spoken words. Unless your Bible talks, it isn't mentioned here. 8^)

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Heaps of Words Jesus said are not in the bible. The bible tells us that.

The Words Jesus has given for our salvation are written in the bible. You did not answer the question asked of you. Are Gods' Word and the words of Jesus written in the bible?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

John 6:63, "The Spirit is the one who gives life; human nature is of no help! The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."

Is this the verse that you meant? The first part is about the Spirit vs human nature. The second part is about the spoken words. Unless your Bible talks, it isn't mentioned here. 8^)

Are spoken words of Jesus recorded in the scriptures?

 

[Carl Emerson]

Even Jesus used scripture to get the word of God across.

Yes but in His case it was always inspired by the Holy Spirit.

In our case often not.

In Satan's case most certainly not.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I read it but realised immediately that your use of scripture was flawed and you definition of "God's Word" was confused.

If you did read the OP it seems you did not understand it as even in the first paragraphs there is a section on "What is God's Word" for the context of this discussion that scripture is the only rule of faith that disagrees with everything you have posted here.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The Words Jesus has given for our salvation are written in the bible. You did not answer the question asked of you. Are Gods' Word and the words of Jesus written in the bible?

Not all...

 

[Carl Emerson]

If you did read the OP it seems you did not understand it as even in the first paragraphs there is a section on "What is God's Word" for the context of this discussion that scripture is the only rule of faith that disagrees with everything you have posted here.

How surprising...

Given that your use of the term is confusing.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Not all...

From the OP you said you read in the first paragraph stating the term meanings for the discussion of this OP that "Scripture is the only rule of faith"...

WHAT DO WE MEAN BY GOD'S WORD?
Of course Jesus is the living Word of God *John 1:1-4; 14 but the scriptures are Gods' recorded written Word of God handed down from Jesus, the Apostles and the Prophets, written for our admonition upon who the ends of the world have come (1 Corinthians 10:11) and all scripture is God breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16). So we have Jesus as the living Word of God who has given us His spoken Word of God which we have today as the recorded written Word of God which is scripture. In this OP we are talking about Gods recorded written Word (scripture) as the only rule of faith. Of course no one can know the truth of Gods' Word (scripture) unless God guides and teaches us as we prayerfully pray for His Spirit *John 7:17; John 16:13; John 14:26; John 8:31-36; Hebrews 8:11; 1 John 2:27.

This kind of buries everything you have said here and why I was always asking you if you read the OP? Can we get back to the OP now?

Take Care.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

How surprising...
Given that you use of the term is confusing.

So is that some kind of an apology Carl? The term is not confusing at all it is taken from the scriptures. I hope we can have a friendly discussion now and get back to the OP if that is ok.

 

[timothyu]

Yes but in His case it was always inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Right but the Comforter He sent was not for that purpose other than keeping us on the narrow path of the Kingdom we had already accepted, and giving us the words to defend that choice. We are seed sowers, not prophets.

 

[Carl Emerson]

So is that some kind of an apology Carl? The term is not confusing at all it is taken from the scriptures. I hope we can have a friendly discussion now and get back to the OP if that is ok.

Sorry I am not fobbed off that easily.

There is a lot at stake here.

Your message condemns billions of believers who do not Worship on Saturday.

So I have looked carefully at your presentation of scripture and find flaws that you wont address.

For that reason I invite the support of readers that can see the flaws because they do not wear EGW glasses.

 

[Carl Emerson]

We are seed sowers, not prophets.

Would you like to expand on this? Maybe on another thread?

 

[timothyu]

Would you like to expand on this? Maybe on another thread?

No, it made its point regarding the subject.

 

[Carl Emerson]

No, it made its point regarding the subject.

Folks wont understand what you mean.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Right but the Comforter He sent was not for that purpose other than keeping us on the narrow path of the Kingdom we had already accepted, and giving us the words to defend that choice. We are seed sowers, not prophets.

Rev 19:10

...the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy"

 

[timothyu]

..the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy

Jesus yes, those who follow no. There is no more need for prophets until the final two at end of days.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jesus yes, those who follow no. There is no more need for prophets until the final two at end of days.

Really?

So the gifts have ceased?