The Rosary Doesn't Do Much For Me...

Lost4words · Mar 18, 2019

Only recently started praying the Rosary again. For me, it is pray directed towards Jesus. Towards God. Mary is our great Holy Mother, as given to us by Jesus at the foot of the cross.

Who better to take our cares and worries etc to God the Son, than His Blessed Mother!

ripple the car · Mar 18, 2019

Lost4words said:
Only recently started praying the Rosary again. For me, it is pray directed towards Jesus. Towards God. Mary is our great Holy Mother, as given to us by Jesus at the foot of the cross.

Who better to take our cares and worries etc to God the Son than His Blessed Mother!

Yes. For me, it is like a theology book on string.

Ttalkkugjil · Mar 19, 2019

Lost4words said:
Only recently started praying the Rosary again. For me, it is pray directed towards Jesus. Towards God. Mary is our great Holy Mother, as given to us by Jesus at the foot of the cross.

Who better to take our cares and worries etc to God the Son, than His Blessed Mother!

We ourselves can take our cares and worries to God the Son. We are no better than his mother, no worse.

Albion · Mar 19, 2019

Mountainmike said:
The power of interecession of the Mother of our Lord has old testament biblical underpinning, biblical precedent

The rosary, however, is about us petitioning the Virgin and believing that she has the authority to grant our petitions thanks to our having used that particular artifact in the process.

It is NOT just about her praying for mortals. The Bible does say that the angels pray constantly for us, so that much is not particularly controversial.

tz620q · Mar 19, 2019

Albion said:
The rosary, however, is about us petitioning the Virgin and believing that she has the authority to grant our petitions thanks to our having used that particular artifact in the process.

It is NOT just about her praying for mortals. The Bible does say that the angels pray constantly for us, so that much is not particularly controversial.

I am not so sure. Others have used rosary beads and substituted other prayers for the Hail Mary and don't seem to have an issue with using a rosary to keep track of these prayers. Or are you specifically talking about some of the claims made about graces or benefits that come from saying the rosary?

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

Ttalkkugjil said:
We ourselves can take our cares and worries to God the Son. We are no better than his mother, no worse.

Now that is Biblical!

Romans 3:23.………
"ALL have sinned and come short of the approval of God!"

1 Tim 2:5...….….
"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus".

Albion · Mar 19, 2019

tz620q said:
I am not so sure. Others have used rosary beads and substituted other prayers for the Hail Mary and don't seem to have an issue with using a rosary to keep track of these prayers.

Right. That's why I said what I did earlier. When someone speaks of "the rosary" he is speaking of the particular devotional to the Virgin Mary with appointed prayers, etc., all of which is believed to mean something in Catholicism.

IF, however, someone else uses the same beads set for another purpose, then it is not in fact "the rosary" but just a counting device.

Or are you specifically talking about some of the claims made about graces or benefits that come from saying the rosary?

Well, yes. That is necessary if the issue is to be framed correctly.

Concord1968 · Mar 19, 2019

This thread is like listening to someone having an argument with a third party over the phone

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

James Murphy said:
This thread is like listening to someone having an argument with a third party over the phone

The old PARTY line was social media 50 years ago!

Albion · Mar 19, 2019

How so? (is it like listening to one end only of a conversation over the phone)?

tz620q · Mar 19, 2019

Major1 said:
Thank you for the comment. What you have just stated is in fact your opinion.

Now is there some rule or law or command that I can not do exactly as you have just done???

I completely understand that you as a Catholic would be bothered by the comments made.

Have you asked yourself.....WHY that is the case?

WHY would the comment that the ROSARY is not found in the Bible bother me to the point I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO ARGUE ITS EXISTANCE with someone who admits he has NO authority, no goal in life except to share the Word of God with others.

I just think you need to be more discerning in the threads you pick to do this. This thread was started by a Catholic asking for advice on the rosary, an optional Catholic devotion. It started as an opportunity to offer spiritual guidance. You have hijacked it into your own personal soapbox and probably will not stop posting until you have the last word. So your next post will probably be the last, since to continue to admonish you will be beyond my limit of what is righteous help and into the realm of unrighteous hatred.

Concord1968 · Mar 19, 2019

Albion said:
How so? (is it like listening to one end only of a conversation over the phone)?

Pretty much.

tz620q · Mar 19, 2019

Major1 said:
The old PARTY line was social media 50 years ago!

I remember those days. Our neighbors, mostly older ladies living alone, would put their phones in a wash basin to magnify the vibrations when someone else on the party line was getting a phone call. Then they would listen in on the call.

Albion · Mar 19, 2019

tz620q said:
I reread the OP and am not seeing that.

Okay. So there is a difference of opinion about that.

At least now you know why the posters who wanted to answer the inquirer's questions in more depth felt as they did.

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

tz620q said:
I just think you need to be more discerning in the threads you pick to do this. This thread was started by a Catholic asking for advice on the rosary, an optional Catholic devotion. It started as an opportunity to offer spiritual guidance. You have hijacked it into your own personal soapbox and probably will not stop posting until you have the last word. So your next post will probably be the last, since to continue to admonish you will be beyond my limit of what is righteous help and into the realm of unrighteous hatred.

Actually, the facts are that you will be unable to politely and civilly debate the subject which was brought up by the OP originally which is exactly what I have responded to.
I HAVE NOT hijacked anything but have respond to the OPS quandary.

However, because you do not agree with my Bible understanding and comments you now think it is acceptable to threaten me by saying …………………..
"my limit of what is righteous help and into the realm of unrighteous hatred".

How you feel is totally up to you. I can assure you that I do not hate you or even dislike you. I do not even know you. You seem to be angry because I disagree with what your religion has taught you because I quote from the Scriptures.

The OP originally asked in post #1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"It's a little bothersome for me, because I hear speakers & authors all the time talking about the importance of praying the rosary, of how it's one of our most powerful weapons against the devil, but I just don't get anything from it, or feel like I've done anything at all.
Is this just because God is calling me away from the general rosary to do more specific novenas & other prayers to saints? Or what's going on here? "

He ASKED a question!

I answered in post #10......………......

"My dear friend. Please open your Bible to the back index and look up the word ROSARY.
If your Bible does not have an index, use a Bible Dictionary or Concordance and look it up.
If you do have one of those, simply do a goggle search for "Rosary in the Bible".
When you have done all that and you do not find the Rosary in the Bible, now ask yourself WHY you are praying to one????
That is called IDOLATRY my dear friend.
The ROSARY is a manufactured word by the Traditions of men n the Catholic church and is in no way a Bible directive, doctrine or even a word or suggestion."

Now when did answering a question based on the Scriptures become illegal on this site???????

Have I been abusive to you?
Have I GOADED you or said anything insulting to you?

What has anyone said to you that would cause you to say...…...
""my limit of what is righteous help and into the realm of unrighteous hatred"

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

Ryan Reborn said:
How are Jesus' words regarding how to pray not pertinent to helping the OP have a more fruitful prayer life?

Agreed !

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

tz620q said:
I remember those days. Our neighbors, mostly older ladies living alone, would put their phones in a wash basin to magnify the vibrations when someone else on the party line was getting a phone call. Then they would listen in on the call.

Yes. My mother knew everything about everyone in our neighborhood.

One ring...…….two rings......One short, one Long, Three rings. My mother memorized very ring and knew if she wanted to listen or not.

Ah......the good old days.

tz620q · Mar 19, 2019

Major1 said:
Yes. My mother knew everything about everyone in our neighborhood.

One ring...…….two rings......One short, one Long, Three rings. My mother memorized very ring and knew if she wanted to listen or not.

Ah......the good old days.

Yes, we started out as one long, two short. If you stayed on the line after your caller hung up, you could count the other clicks to see how many had been listening. Later they changed to a different setup, where only the receiving phone would be rang; but it was still a party line. So that was when the innovative started using the wash basin trick. My grandmother lived a 1/4 mile from us and we were often in her house. If the phone was in the wash basin, you knew what she had been doing.

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

tz620q said:
Yes, we started out as one long, two short. If you stayed on the line after your caller hung up, you could count the other clicks to see how many had been listening. Later they changed to a different setup, where only the receiving phone would be rang; but it was still a party line. So that was when the innovative started using the wash basin trick. My grandmother lived a 1/4 mile from us and we were often in her house. If the phone was in the wash basin, you knew what she had been doing.

Been there and done that as well.

I actually miss those days.

Major1 · Mar 19, 2019

Albion said:
I dunno about that. Given the way the OP was presented, the topic was made to be very broad, including whether or not the rosary is what it is said to be by the church.

Because it was placed on this forum rather than one of the specifically Roman Catholic ones, it also appears to have been the intention of the writer to open up the discussion rather than to confine it to words of encouragement or restatements of the Catholic Church's position on the use of the rosary.

Agreed.

I do not know about others, but I never go around looking for a confrontation.

I simply saw the posted question from a person who said he was not getting any satisfaction from praying the Rosary and posted that maybe it was not A bible directive he should be doing to begin with.

The rest is history and I for one do not like confrontational theology.

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