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The Rosary Doesn't Do Much For Me...

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Prayer does everything but prayer to Mary is simply not Biblical.

The rosary is not mentioned in scripture because it is a human invention. It is not of God. It does not provide forgiveness of our sins, relief from punishment, or certain graces; nor does it give us victory over hell. In fact, God has given us different directions.
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Prayer does everything but prayer to Mary is simply not Biblical.

The rosary is not mentioned in scripture because it is a human invention. It is not of God. It does not provide forgiveness of our sins, relief from punishment, or certain graces; nor does it give us victory over hell. In fact, God has given us different directions.
That's about it.

While the rosary itself is not in referred to in Scripture, this fact would not make it wrong. Not if it were simply a counting device for keeping track of one's prayers (and prayer IS in Scripture, we all would agree). That is what the rosary was in origin--a counting device for the benefit of uneducated people who wanted to participate in some way in the prayer life of the monks of that era.

But later...

A legend was built around it, saying that the Virgin personally gave the beads, the rosary, to mankind--to St. Dominic specifically--and that we are to pray those beads as a petition to her personally, in response to which many divine favors can be obtained. It should go without saying that none of THAT is Biblical.
 
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Prayer does everything but prayer to Mary is simply not Biblical.

I don't pray to Mary.

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The rosary is not mentioned in scripture because it is a human invention. It is not of God. It does not provide forgiveness of our sins, relief from punishment, or certain graces; nor does it give us victory over hell. In fact, God has given us different directions.
Are you also against other memory aids? Notebooks, for example? Diaries? Phone apps?
 
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Hello, all. I've been maintaining a very deep prayer life for all last semester, a not-so-deep prayer life for a year or so before that, and not much of any prayer life before that, but at any stage, no matter how much or how hard I try, praying the Rosary just doesn't seem to do anything for me or for anything or anyone around me. I do novenas, prayers to saints, prayers that I make up as I go, short ones throughout the day, and even write my own psalms, and for all of those I feel like they do a lot for me & those around me, but the rosary never seems to do anything.
It's a little bothersome for me, because I hear speakers & authors all the time talking about the importance of praying the rosary, of how it's one of our most powerful weapons against the devil, but I just don't get anything from it, or feel like I've done anything at all.
Is this just because God is calling me away from the general rosary to do more specific novenas & other prayers to saints? Or what's going on here?
Sometimes our prayer lives don't feel powerful. But that doesn't mean they aren't.
 
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The power of interecession of the Mother of our Lord has old testament biblical underpinning, biblical precedent ,and the fathers who chose the canon and creed believed it. Some are vociferous on th ematter.

So the problem is not with the practice of intercession on which the rosary is based, but with the reformation invention of sola scriptura "make scripture mean, what you want it to mean" ignoring tradition which hands down true meaning.
 
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The power of interecession of the Mother of our Lord has old testament biblical underpinning, biblical precedent ,and the fathers who chose the canon and creed believed it. Some are vociferous on th ematter.

So the problem is not with the practice of intercession on which the rosary is based, but with the reformation invention of sola scriptura "make scripture mean, what you want it to mean" ignoring tradition which hands down true meaning.
You misunderstand the meaning of Tradition. It is not traditions.

Sacred Tradition is not the interpretation of some standard, such as Scripture, but instead it is a way to dogmatize an idea that is separate and based purely on human customs. That is what the Catholic churches hold to be the equal of the word of God (the Bible).
 
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The power of interecession of the Mother of our Lord has old testament biblical underpinning, biblical precedent ,and the fathers who chose the canon and creed believed it. Some are vociferous on th ematter.

So the problem is not with the practice of intercession on which the rosary is based, but with the reformation invention of sola scriptura "make scripture mean, what you want it to mean" ignoring tradition which hands down true meaning.

We should remember that Christ's our one Advocate, our Intercessor with God. He was raised again for our justification. He's at God's right hand. He's making intercession for us. He can point to his atonement, which has been earned for all and is imputed to believers. Jesus can be our cause's one Champion, because he's our sin's Propitiation.

Our one Advocate doesn't plead that we're innocent, or adduce circumstances. He acknowledges our guilt and presents his work as the ground for our acquittal.

He suffered the penalty for the world's sins. He himself is the Propitiation, being both High Priest and Sacrifice. Christ's redemption was made for the whole world, for everyone that ever lived or's living today, that it's there without our merit and without our faith, the latter being only the hand which accepts the salvation as it lies ready for all. That's faith's art, to cling to Christ amid temptation and sin, knowing that his satisfaction covers every case and wasn't confined to any individual case or class. He's our one advocate, one Intercessor, one Redeemer.
 
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Hello and welcome to CF. :)

Not to be argumentative, but if Christ is our only allowed intercessor, why do we pray for one another (intercede)? Indeed, we are commanded to do so ...

Having but one Mediator doesn't mean we can only have one intercessor.

God be with you. :)



(And ftr, I'm not Roman Catholic and am not advocating for the Rosary.)


We should remember that Christ's our one Advocate, our Intercessor with God. He was raised again for our justification. He's at God's right hand. He's making intercession for us. He can point to his atonement, which has been earned for all and is imputed to believers. Jesus can be our cause's one Champion, because he's our sin's Propitiation.

Our one Advocate doesn't plead that we're innocent, or adduce circumstances. He acknowledges our guilt and presents his work as the ground for our acquittal.

He suffered the penalty for the world's sins. He himself is the Propitiation, being both High Priest and Sacrifice. Christ's redemption was made for the whole world, for everyone that ever lived or's living today, that it's there without our merit and without our faith, the latter being only the hand which accepts the salvation as it lies ready for all. That's faith's art, to cling to Christ amid temptation and sin, knowing that his satisfaction covers every case and wasn't confined to any individual case or class. He's our one advocate, one Intercessor, one Redeemer.
 
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Hello and welcome to CF. :)

Not to be argumentative, but if Christ is our only allowed intercessor, why do we pray for one another (intercede)? Indeed, we are commanded to do so ...

Having but one Mediator doesn't mean we can only have one intercessor.

God be with you. :)



(And ftr, I'm not Roman Catholic and am not advocating for the Rosary.)

Biblically, we are to pray for one another to God *in Jesus' name.* Jesus is our one advocate, our one intercessor.
 
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I don't pray to Mary.


Are you also against other memory aids? Notebooks, for example? Diaries? Phone apps?

Read post #65.

IF you are NOT praying to Mary, then why do you repeat the words...…….
"Hail MARY, Mother of God...……..".
 
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Biblically, we are to pray for one another to God *in Jesus' name.* Jesus is our one advocate, our one intercessor.

That is true, but again, IF it is then why are the words used...…….
"Hail Mary, mother of God...……" when praying the Rosary.
 
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Hello, all. I've been maintaining a very deep prayer life for all last semester, a not-so-deep prayer life for a year or so before that, and not much of any prayer life before that, but at any stage, no matter how much or how hard I try, praying the Rosary just doesn't seem to do anything for me or for anything or anyone around me. I do novenas, prayers to saints, prayers that I make up as I go, short ones throughout the day, and even write my own psalms, and for all of those I feel like they do a lot for me & those around me, but the rosary never seems to do anything.
It's a little bothersome for me, because I hear speakers & authors all the time talking about the importance of praying the rosary, of how it's one of our most powerful weapons against the devil, but I just don't get anything from it, or feel like I've done anything at all.
Is this just because God is calling me away from the general rosary to do more specific novenas & other prayers to saints? Or what's going on here?

I personally don’t pray the rosary but I was wondering are you meditating on the life of Christ while you pray the rosary? I’ve been told this is important to do while praying it.
 
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I don't pray to Mary.


Are you also against other memory aids? Notebooks, for example? Diaries? Phone apps?

So you are saying that the Rosary is only a method of counting so that you will know how many prayers you have said to Mary. Correct????
 
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So you are saying that the Rosary is only a method of counting so that you will know how many prayers you have said to Mary. Correct????

No, I'm not. The rosary I was doing had no prayers to Mary.
 
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Biblically, we are to pray for one another to God *in Jesus' name.* Jesus is our one advocate, our one intercessor.
As you wish. An intercessor is someone who prays (asks) on another's behalf. Any time we pray for anyone, we are interceding for them.
 
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No, I'm not. The rosary I was doing had no prayers to Mary.

Then you are not praying the Rosary my friend.

From...……..How to Pray the Rosary | 5 Million Rosaries | Dynamic Catholic

"With the prayers of the rosary, we ask Mary to pray for us and to guide us by the example of her son, Jesus."

"Either before or after the introductory prayers, think of any needs or struggles in your life and bring them to Mary. She cares for you like a loving mother, and wants to take your needs to Jesus. If you are praying with a group, you can say your intentions out loud so the rest of the group can pray for them as well."

"Pray the Hail, Holy Queen (a prayer asking for Mary’s help) and the Rosary Prayer (a prayer of hope that our lives will be changed by the rosary)."

No where in the Bible is such a teaching found or even suggested and all of those prayers are asking for Mary's help instaed of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Tim. 2:5.....……..
"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus".

Jesus represents those who have placed their trust in Him before God’s throne of grace. He mediates for us, much as a defense attorney mediates for his client, telling the judge, “Your honor, my client is innocent of all charges against him.” That is true for us also. Some day we will face God, but we will do so as totally forgiven sinners because of Jesus’ death on our behalf. The “Defense Attorney” took the penalty for us!
 
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Then you are not praying the Rosary my friend.

From...……..How to Pray the Rosary | 5 Million Rosaries | Dynamic Catholic

"With the prayers of the rosary, we ask Mary to pray for us and to guide us by the example of her son, Jesus."

"Either before or after the introductory prayers, think of any needs or struggles in your life and bring them to Mary. She cares for you like a loving mother, and wants to take your needs to Jesus. If you are praying with a group, you can say your intentions out loud so the rest of the group can pray for them as well."

"Pray the Hail, Holy Queen (a prayer asking for Mary’s help) and the Rosary Prayer (a prayer of hope that our lives will be changed by the rosary)."

No where in the Bible is such a teaching found or even suggested and all of those prayers are asking for Mary's help instaed of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Tim. 2:5.....……..
"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus".

Jesus represents those who have placed their trust in Him before God’s throne of grace. He mediates for us, much as a defense attorney mediates for his client, telling the judge, “Your honor, my client is innocent of all charges against him.” That is true for us also. Some day we will face God, but we will do so as totally forgiven sinners because of Jesus’ death on our behalf. The “Defense Attorney” took the penalty for us!

This seems to be the Roman Catholic rosary. I was doing a rosary designed for Lutherans.
 
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This seems to be the Roman Catholic rosary. I was doing a rosary designed for Lutherans.

Yes it was directed toward the RCC practice of praying the Rosary.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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