Nathan Poe
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Fortunately, I'm not so shallow as to have children for one single purpose -- which I know they will fail.
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What do you think of people who have children, Tiberius? Do you think it's right? Despite the fact that they know their children are going to mess up?
Fortunately, I'm not so shallow as to have children for one single purpose -- which I know they will fail.
What do you think of people who have children, Tiberius? Do you think it's right? Despite the fact that they know their children are going to mess up?
What do you think of people who have children, Tiberius? Do you think it's right? Despite the fact that they know their children are going to mess up?
Without the "satan/devil" how else can we be tried and tested for the next 1 million generations to come?let me fix this...
So, a couple of questions...
- God created the universe.
- God gave it to Adam and Eve to have dominion over it.
- The Serpent tricked them out of it.
- God, who is all knowing, gave the world to Adam and Eve, knowing full well they would be incompetant guardians of the world.
- God punishes Adam and Eve for doing something that God knew they would do (and he also knew that they couldn't avoid it, because then God's foresight about it would have been wrong, and God can't ever be wrong) and that God could have even prevented them from doing, which is very fair of him. And some people say that God even meant for them to mess it up - and God still punishes them for it!
- This is a good and kind and loving and fair God who deserves our unconditional love, because he's never done anything to hurt us (despite setting into motion a series of events which God knew for a fact would require us to be punished with death and would also require his son to be Humanity's whipping boy).
- Satan then offered it to Jesus as one of the three temptations in the wilderness.
- Jesus declined it - (Matthew 4).
- Jesus will come back to this earth and set up His Kindom.
- Despite being an unspeakable evil that wants to jerk us around and ruin our lives, God lets Satan roam free on Earth wreaking his havoc despite God being able to defeat Satan at any time with a simple click of his fingers.
- Satan will finally be defeated (when God gets bored with the show), and then God [the Father] will make a New Heaven and a New Earth for eternity.
Why did God give posession of the world to Adam and Eve, two people whom God KNEW would mess it up?
Why has God let Satan torment us for the last few thousand years?
Without the "satan/devil" how else can we be tried and tested for the next 1 million generations to come?
Hey, how come JESUS says in one place we will be tried/tested and in another place He would keep up from "trial/testing"? Never noticed that before.
http://www.scripture4all.org/
Reve 2:10 Nothing be thou fearing! which-things thou are being about to be suffering/emotioning. Behold! Is being about to be casting out ye, the Devil, into a prison, that ye may be being tried/peirasqhte<3985> (5686).
And Ye shall be having tribulation of days, ten. Be thou becoming! faithful until death and I shall be giving to thee the crown of the life.
Reve 3:10 That you keep the Word of the endurance of Me, also I shall be keeping thee out of the hour of the trial/peirasmou <3986>, of the one-being-about to be coming upon of the habited-house/oikoumenhV <3625>, whole, to try/peirasai <3985> (5658) the ones down-homing/katoikountaVupon of the land.
You can't convince anyone of anything silly.I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.
What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?
I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.
What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?
This is a pointless arguement because things don't work that way.
I see what your doing however. Your trying to say that since God created the world and we only have Christian's words to go by then that miraculously proves everything.
Unfortunately, everyone in history has lied at one time or another. So technically, no one is truthful and no one really can be held "to their word" as personal motivations will affect the truth. So I give this post a big F.
Much like your science/biology grade, I imagine.
ORLY? how exactly can we verify that the documentation is true? using what we use for any other document, namely comparing it to other documents and evidence we find in the world shows your document(s) to be factually false.Excuse me, newbie? Do you know me? You're not too big on first impressions, are you?
Would you like to maybe answer it while you're at it?
And your remark that "we only have Christian's words to go by" isn't true. We have written Documentation that applies to everyone; whether they're Christian or not.
ORLY? how exactly can we verify that the documentation is true? using what we use for any other document, namely comparing it to other documents and evidence we find in the world shows your document(s) to be factually false.
Excuse me, newbie? Do you know me? You're not too big on first impressions, are you?
Would you like to maybe answer it while you're at it?
And your remark that "we only have Christian's words to go by" isn't true. We have written Documentation that applies to everyone; whether they're Christian or not.
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- Over a period of 1500 years.
[...]- In three different languages.
and this answers my question how?
2. You would have to have a nation rise to status of superpower as a result of following your documentation.
3. And now the sockdolager: you would have to write said nation's history in advance, and fulfill it with 100% accuracy.
1. Conscript 40 authors to write independently of each other
Buddhism is about that old if not older, and they had all prier documentsOver a period of 1500 years.
so what, they didn't do at the same time it was over the 1500 years!On three different continents.
over 1500 yearsIn three different languages.
over 1500 years, its amazing to keep your identity that long, but 10 tribes lost it in the exileUnder conditions of war, peace, rebellion, loyalty, invasion.
over 1500 years, with the texts before them, only claiming this.Under different vocations, such as kings, fig pickers, priests.
Excuse me, newbie? Do you know me? You're not too big on first impressions, are you?
Would you like to maybe answer it while you're at it?
And your remark that "we only have Christian's words to go by" isn't true. We have written Documentation that applies to everyone; whether they're Christian or not.
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