The Restitution Of All Things A.K.A. Universalism

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Only those who obey the Gospel will be saved. JPT

My friend: This will most surely be a terrible shock to your dogma; but in the finality of Abba's purposes in His beloved Son, the entire universe of beings in the heavens, the earth, and the underworld will bow and confess IN the Name of all names! This confession and worship is NOT by perfunctory genuflections but willing worship satisfying the mighty "heart" of Abba!

 

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but it clearly says that God chastens, and in Job, HE wounds, and He heals
how do i know when my chastening is done?
how do i know when God is done making me suffer and it's time to have faith for healing?
God told me that i was like Joseph, and i had to wait for healing...
how long? and what am i supposed to be doing in the mean time?
what was Joseph doing?

 

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but it clearly says that God chastens, and in Job, HE wounds, and He heals
how do i know when my chastening is done?
how do i know when God is done making me suffer and it's time to have faith for healing?
God told me that i was like Joseph, and i had to wait for healing...
how long? and what am i supposed to be doing in the mean time?
what was Joseph doing?

Dear Hugs: Abba does indeed wound and every last wound is towards enhancement. He also heals the bruised and broken wrecks of Adam1.

Do not focus on "how long" His working in you will take: focus on the fruits of the suffering.

"Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope."

 

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John Wesley Hanson D.D.

THE GREEK WORD

AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS,

TRANSLATED

Everlasting -- Eternal

https://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html

 

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Dear Hugs: Abba does indeed wound and every last wound is towards enhancement. He also heals the bruised and broken wrecks of Adam1.

Do not focus on "how long" His working in you will take: focus on the fruits of the suffering.

"Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope."

it's been so long, i'm so tired...
but i know what you mean... who would david have been without goliath?
i'm like Joseph... but i've been 'in prison' for longer than he was...
it's hard not to focus on how long...

 

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Dear Hugs: Abba does indeed wound and every last wound is towards enhancement. He also heals the bruised and broken wrecks of Adam1.

Do not focus on "how long" His working in you will take: focus on the fruits of the suffering.

"Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope."

Hi FL, I just got a little revelation about it... well maybe not so little
I used to run long distance when i was young... and healthy lol
and God brought to mind 'the pain' especially when i first started running with the track team in high school... i mean the coach made me run 7 miles THE FIRST DAY lol
by the end of the week, i could not sit myself down in a chair, and once down, i could not get up lol
that pain was bad, tho it passed as i got stronger, and soon i was only in pain on mondays after taking the weekend off running, if i stopped training for more than a day, it was painful again.
so what God is saying is to think of the pain i'm in, LIKE THAT, like it's exercise!!! except it's for spiritual strength and endurance.
altho i am once again in the position of wondering about my Coach's sanity haha

 

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Hi FL, I just got a little revelation about it... well maybe not so little
I used to run long distance when i was young... and healthy lol
and God brought to mind 'the pain' especially when i first started running with the track team in high school... i mean the coach made me run 7 miles THE FIRST DAY lol
by the end of the week, i could not sit myself down in a chair, and once down, i could not get up lol
that pain was bad, tho it passed as i got stronger, and soon i was only in pain on mondays after taking the weekend off running, if i stopped training for more than a day, it was painful again.
so what God is saying is to think of the pain i'm in, LIKE THAT, like it's exercise!!! except it's for spiritual strength and endurance.
altho i am once again in the position of wondering about my Coach's sanity haha

"I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us."

Another day breaks across our Father's glorious Purposes! We who are caught in this realm of things, as members of humanity, must wonder about the small part we play in the Grand Scheme. The Scriptures speak of "they" & "us"....they without us cannot be made perfect! We therefore give of ourselves willingly and without reservation to Abba, the Father of all fathers. May His great love and grace be yours today!

“Though we are incomplete, God loves us completely. Though we are imperfect, He loves us perfectly. Though we may feel lost and without compass, God's love encompasses us completely. ... He loves every one of us, even those who are flawed, rejected, awkward, sorrowful, or broken.” - Dieter F. Uchtdorf-

 

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31. If justice and mercy are opposed to their requirements can Deity be a just God and a Savior? -- (Isaiah 14:21)

32. If "a God all mercy is a God unjust," would not a God all justice be a God unmerciful?

33. Is there any such thing in God as unjust mercy, or unmerciful justice?

34. Is there any such thing in God as just cruelty, or merciful injustice?

35. If you had sufficient power would you not deliver all men from sin?

To be continued

36. Are you more merciful than the God Who made you?

37. 'Can a woman forget her sucking child?'

38. Is the Creator of human sympathy less benevolent than the creature?

39. If God WOULD save all men, but CANNOT, is He infinite in power?

40. If God CAN save all men, but WILL NOT, is He infinite in goodness?

41. Does God DESIRE the salvation of all men? (1 Tim. 2:3-4)

42. As God is righteous, must not the desire for universal salvation be a RIGHTEOUS desire?

43. Is it true, that "the desire of the righteous shall be granted?" -- (Prov. 10:24)

44. Did God design universal salvation when He created man?

45. Will God carry His original design into execution?

To be continued

 

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Rev. 5.13=

https://www.biblestudytools.com/revelation/5-13-compare.html

"And I heard every creature in heaven, on earth, in the world below, and in the sea - all living beings in the universe - and they were singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb, be praise and honor, glory and might, forever and ever!"

-A. T. Robertson-

"Every created thing (pan ktisma).

Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from ktizw, for which see 1 Timothy 4:4 ; James 1:18 ),

from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in verse James 3 , with on the sea epi th qalassh added).

No created thing is left out.

This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation (ktisi) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption.

If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off."

 

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Rev. 5.13=

https://www.biblestudytools.com/revelation/5-13-compare.html

"And I heard every creature in heaven, on earth, in the world below, and in the sea - all living beings in the universe - and they were singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb, be praise and honor, glory and might, forever and ever!"

-A. T. Robertson-

"Every created thing (pan ktisma).

Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from ktizw, for which see 1 Timothy 4:4 ; James 1:18 ),

from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in verse James 3 , with on the sea epi th qalassh added).

No created thing is left out.

This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation (ktisi) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption.

If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off."

 

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36. Are you more merciful than the God Who made you?

37. 'Can a woman forget her sucking child?'

38. Is the Creator of human sympathy less benevolent than the creature?

39. If God WOULD save all men, but CANNOT, is He infinite in power?

40. If God CAN save all men, but WILL NOT, is He infinite in goodness?

41. Does God DESIRE the salvation of all men? (1 Tim. 2:3-4)

42. As God is righteous, must not the desire for universal salvation be a RIGHTEOUS desire?

43. Is it true, that "the desire of the righteous shall be granted?" -- (Prov. 10:24)

44. Did God design universal salvation when He created man?

45. Will God carry His original design into execution?

To be continued

46. Can finite man frustrate the purposes of the Almighty?

47. Is every individual under obligation to be thankful for his existence?

48. Will this obligation eternally continue?

49. Can any one be thankful for that which, on the whole, is not a blessing?

50. If any one be rendered endlessly miserable, will he be still under obligation to thank God for existence?

51. Would endless misery benefit the Almighty, as the INFLICTOR?

52. Would endless misery benefit the saints, as SPECTATORS?

53. Would endless misery benefit the sinner, as the SUFFERER?

54. If endless punishment be the "wages of sin," could the sinner ever receive payment in full? (Rom. 6:23)

55. As man is a finite being, can he commit an infinite sin?

-To be continued-

Questions Without Answers

The questions were written by A. C. Thomas and appeared in a book by E. H. Lake, entitled "The Key to Truth".

 

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"In order to fill the Universe with Himself"

 

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"He who went down is the same who went up far over all the heavens so that he might make all things complete.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/ephesians/4-10-compare.html

"And the same one who descended is the one who ascended higher than all the heavens, so that he might fill the entire universe with himself."

Dear friends: The objective is clear! Our Father has a Purpose that moves toward completion. He will fill the all with Himself! Let your life stand in the Blaze of His glory.

 

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Originally Posted by SumTingy
Universalism is heretical teaching. Playing linguistic gymnastics does not prove the argument for Universalism.

Sum: There is no need to play linguistic gymnastics. The Koine Greek is very clear! "I will draw all men unto me." And what does "draw' mean?

And, perhaps you would be advised to inform the writer of Acts that this is a "heretical" teaching!

"And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

I will bet you cannot wait to hear what the prophets of the Most High have declared.

"All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord; and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before him." (Psalms 22:27)

Let us hear it again eh.

"All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord; and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before him."

 

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Originally Posted by SumTingy
Universalism is heretical teaching. Playing linguistic gymnastics does not prove the argument for Universalism.

Sum: There is no need to play linguistic gymnastics. The Koine Greek is very clear! "I will draw all men unto me." And what does "draw' mean?

And, perhaps you would be advised to inform the writer of Acts that this is a "heretical" teaching!

"And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began."

I will bet you cannot wait to hear what the prophets of the Most High have declared.

"All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord; and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before him." (Psalms 22:27)

Let us hear it again eh.

"All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord; and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before him."

you know that i feel sorry for hellfire believers, it's so much sweeter on the side of God's... sweetness... we are nearing the time for the millennial kingdom, and His Spirit is being poured out like wildfire, and so many are stuck in the tricks of the catholic church from the dark ages... it's very very sad to me.

he that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches... the false doctrine of God's inability to fulfill all of His own desires only continues because people have stopped up their ears... they REFUSE to investigate the truth...

but i do believe i understand that... they are not mentally tortured by the idea of most of mankind burning, screaming, crying, tortured, for eternity, and serving a God that thinks that's a good idea... if you are not mentally tortured by that, then you are the 'well' that Jesus didn't come to save. The Great Physician, He came for the sick.

 

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you know that i feel sorry for hellfire believers, it's so much sweeter on the side of God's... sweetness... we are nearing the time for the millennial kingdom, and His Spirit is being poured out like wildfire, and so many are stuck in the tricks of the catholic church from the dark ages... it's very very sad to me.

he that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches... the false doctrine of God's inability to fulfill all of His own desires only continues because people have stopped up their ears... they REFUSE to investigate the truth...

but i do believe i understand that... they are not mentally tortured by the idea of most of mankind burning, screaming, crying, tortured, for eternity, and serving a God that thinks that's a good idea... if you are not mentally tortured by that, then you are the 'well' that Jesus didn't come to save. The Great Physician, He came for the sick.

The Great Physician has indeed come for the sick and broken wrecks of Adam1. Knowing Him continues to be an experience of grandeur.

 

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Jonathan Mitchell N.T. Translation=

http://www.greater-emmanuel.org/jmt

The Resurrection Of Damnation=

http://www.mercyuponall.org/2016/06...nd-the-resurrection-of-damnation-john-528-29/

The Destruction Of The Wicked

The "Destruction" of the Wicked

Roger Tutt

Hope 4 You, Roger Tutt

Prof. Keith DeRose The Really Good News

Universalism and the Bible – Keith DeRose

"..so abundant was God's grace,the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it—the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. In Him we also have been made heirs, having been chosen beforehand in accordance with the intention of Him whose might carries out in everything the design of His own will, so that we should be devoted to the extolling of His glorious attributes.."

The Purpose of God By Vladimir Gelesnoff

In PAUL'S letters repeated reference is made to God's "purpose" (Rom.8:28; 9:11; Eph.1:11; 3:11; 2 Tim.1:9). In all these scriptures the word is prothesis. Its force may be gathered from the fact that the twelve loaves which were placed on the Tabernacle table before the Lord are styled "loaves of purpose" (Matt.12:4; Mark 2:26; Luke 6:14; Heb.9:2).

Hence the scriptures which speak of God's prothesis tell us that He has set before Himself a definite aim or object which He is bent on achieving.

In Eph.3:11, occurs the phrase, "according to the purpose of the eons which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord."

The Purpose Of God, by Vladimir Gelesnoff

George Hawtin: The Restitution Of All Things

https://www.godfire.net/restitutionHawtin.html

A.P. Adams

http://sigler.org/adams/

Christ Triumphant (Thomas Allin)

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm

The Second Death & The Restitution Of All Things (Andrew Jukes)

http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/jukes2.html

Jonathan Mitchell Writings

http://jonathanmitchellnewtestament.com/jonathan-s-writings/

Francois Du Toit

http://www.christianuniversalism.com/articles/against-a-christless-universal-ism/

"Our message is powerful enough to stop people in their tracks with the best news ever! Sin in its every disguise doesn’t have what it takes to even remotely match the attraction and total contentment and appeal of the Christ life!"

John Gavazzoni

http://greater-emmanuel.org/jg/2018/jg_2018.php

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  • The Fullest Meaning of Christ's Indwelling

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  • Quid Pro Quo? No, NO! NO!!
  • A Call to (Major) Repentance
  • With Discontinuance Comes Dissonance
  • Inept False Witness
  • Wrath
  • Gehenna: Yes; Hell: No
  • Death: Yes; Hell: No
  • Proclamation vs Exhortation
  • On the Receiving End
  • He Comes; He Calls; We Follow
  • Staking Out a Claim in Godness Territory
  • All Things Are Of God
  • There's Clearly a Difference
  • Peeks into a Refreshed Orthodoxy
  • The Judgment of God

Regarding John G.

http://poptop.hypermart.net/testjg1.html

Jonathan Mitchell Threads=

http://jonathanmitchellnewtestament.com/jonathan-s-writings/

The Sheep & the Goats
Who are the sheep?
All
Judgement
Eonian Life
Eternal Life
The Power of Love

 

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nobody is arguing with you, FL.... bummer lol
thanks for the blessings man xoxoxox

 

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nobody is arguing with you, FL.... bummer lol
thanks for the blessings man xoxoxox

Dear Hugs: they continue to argue! Maybe they are considering my advanced age & have decided to cut F.L. some slack. Whatever, this exercise is causing new life to flow into my broken being!

I intend to give every blessing away as fast as I can. Since you have been here with me since the 2nd day you are at the top of the recipients list. You are of course welcome!

 

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Dr. Marvin Vincent N.T. Word Studies

Of - through - to (ex - dia - eiv). Of, proceeding from as the source: through, by means of, as maintainer, preserver, ruler: to or unto, He is the point to which all tends. All men and things are for His glory (1 Corinthians xv. 28). Alford styles this doxology "the sublimest apostrophe existing even in the pages of inspiration itself."

Robertson Word Pictures Of The N.T.

Of him (ex autou),

Through him (di' autou),

Unto him (eiv auton).

By these three prepositions Paul ascribes the universe (ta panta) with all the phenomena concerning creation, redemption, providence to God as the

Ex= The Source

Di= The Agent

Eiv= The Goal

For ever= eiv touv aiwnav= "For the ages."

Alford terms this doxology in verses 33-36 "the sublimest apostrophe existing even in the pages of inspiration itself."

"From Him the all comes, through Him the all exists & in Him the all ends..."

Ta pante= the all

"Source, Agent, Goal of the all."