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The Restitution Of All Things A.K.A. Universalism

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Dear he-man: I see your addition of "not all" to God is Saviour of all mankind. Perhaps we can vote you most likely to succeed as the newest translator of koine. LOL! By these three prepositions Paul ascribes the universe (ta panta) with all the phenomena concerning creation, redemption, providence to God as the...
Ex= The Source Di= The Agent Eiv= The Goal The Koine, ta pavnte, is the strongest word for all in the Scriptures; it literally means the all.
Romans 11:36= ta pavnte/ ta panta, "in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the all things, the universe, and, everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming." It is not in the limited sense of "nearly all", "pavnte" minus "ta The final preposition [eiv) reveals the ultimate goal of all that is. What has been provided in Christ is a re-turn, a re-storation, a re-newing, a re-demption, a re-concilation, a re-surrection, a re-stitution.
The prefix "re" means back again, again, anew--and all the words with this prefix speak of something that left its place and has now made its circuit and come back to the point of its beginning.

In the Christian story God descends to reascend. He comes down;.... down to the very roots and sea-bed of the Nature He has created. But He goes down to come up again and bring the whole ruined world up with Him. -C.S. Lewis
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You are in error, the Koine Greek does not include the words "ta panta" and In the Christian story Jesus descends to reascend. He comes down thru God and the Holy Spirit;.... down to the very roots and sea-bed of the Nature God has created. But Jesus comes down thru God to return and does not bring the whole ruined world up with him, instead the verse is speaking of Israel and not the whole world.
www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/atheismquotes.htm --C.S. Lewis We find the most terrible form of atheism, not in the militant and passionate struggle against the idea of God himself, but in the practical atheism of everyday living, in indifference and torpor.
Christianity Today magazine admits that C.S. Lewis is popular to Evangelicals today because, like then, he despised Biblical separation. Like it or not, the Word of God teaches that Christians are to separate from the unsaved (2nd Corinthians 6:14-17; and from other professed "Christians" who live in unrepentant sin (1st Corinthians 5:11).
From 1954 until his death in 1963, C.S. Lewis was professor of medieval and Renaissance English at Cambridge University. Today, C.S. Lewis is known as a distinguished literary scholar and Christian apologist. This is tragic and a further sign of the apostate condition of the church today. Mere Christianity (a book upon which the beliefs of many professing Christians are based) is considered one of the most profound and logically irrefutable writings on Christian apologetics. In reality, it is a work of garbage, filled with lies and distortions of the truth. It is in this book (on page 139) that Lewis refers to man is the "highest animal" (1st Corinthians 15:39 calls Mr. Lewis a liar). The concept of "mere Christianity" means agreeing on a small common denominator of Christian truth, while tolerating great areas of disagreement. In essence, Lewis' book is an attempt to corrupt the church. (Christianity Today, 10/25/93).
Today true Christians know Jesus was and is NOT God!
Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Romans 11:36 For out of him,[God] and through him [God], and unto him [God], are all things: to whom be the glory for ever. Amen.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Romans 11:32 For God hath embraced G4788 as many as G3956 in unbelief, [Israel] that he might have mercy upon as many as G3956.
Romans 11:33 O how deep are God's riches, and wisdom, and knowledge! How unfathomable are his decisions and unexplainable are his ways!
G3956 πᾶς as many as
 
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I think as well as it is correct to point out errors in what comes out of peoples mouths, one have to go to oneself and consider at what stage in life one says one thing and then later one can have gotten more mature and say something more grown up things. Also most people err, at times. If we know a person we know that they can have a good heart but sometimes a real toad can come out of their mouths. Instead of rejecting everything they say one should learn to separate the chaff from the wheat. I doubt that Mr Lewis was a total fraud but acknowledge that He was human and capable to have difficulties to concentrate if He slept 6 hour some night just as the rest of the population, besides, He lived at the time when the second worldwar was going on and then humans sometimes behaved far worse than any animal I have seen. Actually even today, some give advise to women on how to train their wild and untame and bossy boyfriends and husbands by using methods for training lions, tigers and monkeys, I have no idea if it works. Perhaps I should try.
 
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By these three prepositions Paul ascribes the universe (ta panta) with all the phenomena concerning creation, redemption, providence to God as the...

Ex= The Source

Di= The Agent

Eiv= The Goal

The Koine, ta pavnte, is the strongest word for all in the Scriptures; it literally means the all.

Romans 11:36=

ta pavnte/ ta panta, "in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the all things, the universe, and, everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming."

It is not in the limited sense of "nearly all", "pavnte" minus "ta

The final preposition [eiv) reveals the ultimate goal of all that is. What has been provided in Christ is a re-turn, a re-storation, a re-newing, a re-demption, a re-concilation, a re-surrection, a re-stitution.

The prefix "re" means back again, again, anew--and all the words with this prefix speak of something that left its place and has now made its circuit and come back to the point of its beginning.
 
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Dear he-man: I regret to disclose ta panta is indeed koine! ALEXANDER THOMSON: The Meaning of Ta Panta
I regret to inform you the Koine Greek does not include the words ta panta in like you quoted Romans 11:36= ta pavnte/ ta panta, Post number #1664 .

You also fail to overcome the test here: Revelation 2:7
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.""

Revelation 2:11 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.""

Revelation 2:17 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.""

Revelation 2:26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—

Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

Revelation 3:21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
New King James Version
 
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I regret to inform you the Koine Greek does not include the words ta panta in like you quoted Romans 11:36= ta pavnte/ ta panta, Post number #1664 .

You also fail to overcome the test here: Revelation 2:7
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.""

Revelation 2:11 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.""

Revelation 2:17 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.""

Revelation 2:26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—

Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

Revelation 3:21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
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Dear he-man: There are many dwelling places in Father's House or many places of abode. Those dimensions are varied running from beyond, beyond to the broadest base of union with Him, the Source of all & the Goal of all.

Our God is the Saviour of all mankind but He is the Saviour malista of those who believe or trust in Him. Among those who trust in Him are those who have been in the Fire of His Glory being hurt over & over again until there is nothing left to "hurt". In short, the purpose of the cross is to do away with you, blessed riddance.

These, dear he-man are the overcomer's, a small elite group within the malista who follow the Lamb in the withersoever.
 
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Dear he-man: There are many dwelling places in Father's House or many places of abode. Those dimensions are varied running from beyond, beyond to the broadest base of union with Him, the Source of all & the Goal of all.

Our God is the Saviour of all mankind but He is the Saviour malista of those who believe or trust in Him. Among those who trust in Him are those who have been in the Fire of His Glory being hurt over & over again until there is nothing left to "hurt". In short, the purpose of the cross is to do away with you, blessed riddance.

These, dear he-man are the overcomer's, a small elite group within the malista who follow the Lamb in the withersoever.
You like the foolish Galatians, have been bewitched. Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?
Galatians 3:1-2 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 
 
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Robertson Word Pictures=

Every created thing (παν κτισμα — pān ktisma). Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from κτιζω — ktizō for which see 1 Timothy 4:4; James 1:18), from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in Revelation 5:3, with on the sea επι της ταλασσης — epi tēs thalassēs added).

No created thing is left out. This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation (κτισις — ktisis) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption. If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off.

Saying (λεγοντας — legontas). Masculine (construction according to sense, personifying the created things) if genuine, though some MSS. have λεγοντα — legonta (grammatical gender agreeing with παντα— panta) present active participle of λεγω — legō to say.


And to the Lamb (και τωι αρνιωι — kai tōi arniōi). Dative case. Praise and worship are rendered to the Lamb precisely as to God on the throne. Note separate articles here in the doxology as in Revelation 4:11and the addition of το κρατος — to kratos (active power) in place of ισχυς — ischus (reserve of strength) in Revelation 5:12.

Welcome to Good News!

You have come to a link on this vast sight, my friend, that declares the good news announced by angelic hosts. That good news is to all people, the lost broken and bruised members of Adam the first. We have been "made sinners" in Him, not by any choice of our own, but by reason of Him who has made it so.

Yes, in the manifold wisdom of our Creator & more intimately Abba, this world we are born into has one destination. That destination is Abba who loves you & I and has destined to make you and I more than sinners.

This is the equation

"The polus were made sinners" = Adam one>>>>>>

"The polus "made righteous" = The Last Adam

Please Note:

The identical mass made sinners in Adam (the polus), destined by Him who made it so, to be "made righteous."
 
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Dear friends: I believe this link should be the unfinished Symphony of Abba for broken ears and hearts. But it is finished! We may not hear the notes, we may not see the Conductor yet, but the Symphony is being heard by those whose ears have been dug by the Master.

The Day of all days is coming when the Author of the Symphony, who is the Finisher of the Symphony makes all things new. That wee koine word is kainos and means unprecedented. Yes, all of created life will one Day hear the Symphony of the Ages!!!
 
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Dear biloqewu: I appreciate your assumption. When I get a free moment your finding will be presented to the Apostle who declares>>>>>>>

God is the Saviour of all mankind, especially those who believe/trust in Him. Command this & teach this.

Please note:

1. God is Saviour of all/pas mankind.

2. God is NOT a potential Saviour: He IS Saviour.

3. He IS Saviour "especially/malista" of those who believe.

4. Command this & teach this.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

John 17:16 They [believers] are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

What would Jesus do in a time of political election? He would not take part. He would warn true Christians, “Come out of her [this world], My people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues” (Revelation 18:1-4).

Jesus calls Christians out of the ways of this world, including its political systems.

Just as Jesus did, we are expected to provide a true witness of God's way of life. We are to support what God is doing on earth so that the good news of Christ's return to establish God's Kingdom is proclaimed.

Our focus needs to be on God's plan and His gift of salvation and eternal life so that we and all those He has called are prepared to participate in God's government on earth when it is established (Daniel 7:18, 22; Revelation 2:26-27; 5:10).

An ambassador of Christ is not to involve himself in the politics of this present evil world. Human governments, by the God of this world (II Corinthians 4:4), are doomed to be replaced by the benevolent rule of the Kingdom of God. Though we are in the world, we are not of it.

Our mission—as advance emissaries of His Kingdom—is to give a true witness of God's way of life (Proverbs 14:25; Isaiah 43:10-12; Matthew 5:13-16; Acts 1:8; Revelation 20:4) and to warn the world of its predicament and present danger, proclaiming to all nations the good news of the Kingdom of God.
New King James Version — Martin G. Collins
 
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Dear friends: I believe this link should be the unfinished Symphony of Abba for broken ears and hearts.

But it is finished!

We may not hear the notes, we may not see the Conductor yet, but the Symphony is being heard by those whose ears have been dug by the Master.

The Day of all days is coming when the Author of the Symphony, who is the Finisher of the Symphony makes all things new. That wee koine word is kainos and means unprecedented. Yes, all of created life will one Day hear the Symphony of the Ages!!!

"The whole of created life shall be delivered/set free/ emancipated from the tyranny of change & decay..."
 
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The precise definition of "damnation" in the KJV= krino.

Strong's Greek: 2919. κρίνω (krinó) -- to judge, decide

Judgement! Judgement begins at the House of God in the elect malista of His grace and proceeds to all members of a broken & bruised race in the 1st Adam.

His judgments are life, leading to change & transformation. NOT unending despair!

There are many dimensions of His judgement as the One whose essence is FIRE. We all will dwell with Him in the consuming fire of His Presence, every last rotten one of us. The elect, malista, have begun the journey already, and among them are the followers of the Lamb who know what it is to be hurt over and over again until there is nothing left to "hurt".

Yes, the purpose of the cross is to do away with you (& all of us) blessed riddance!
 
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My friend: God our Father offers nothing. He wills all mankind to be saved. The koine is theló & the theló of the Almighty One prevails.

Perhaps an equation will be more appropriate? God not only is the Saviour of all mankind, He is the ONE who makes the polus made sinners in Adam the polus made righteous in the Last Adam, the Saviour of the hilasmos of the holos.

Adam 1= the polus "made sinners">>>>>

Last Adam= the identical polus "made righteous"
Better read biloqewu AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN!
God is the savior of all mankind because salvation is offered to all mankind, not because all mankind will be saved.
If the the reward of the lawless is the same as the reward of the righteous, then would be no purpose to become righteous, and all the apostles and prophets of old died and suffered in vain, if indeed men like Hitler will achieve the same end result as men like the apostle Paul.

If the end result of everyone was the same, then let us party and drink for our reward is the same as the righteous! This is obviously not the truth, and whoever believes this lie will only reap death, not the life they think they will achieve by remaining in their lawlessness and lies that justify their own lawlessness.
 
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Better read biloqewu AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN!

Dear he man: Fractured fairy tales need to be read only one time!

Questions for both of you.

1. Define theion.

2. Define the koine root of theion.

3. Define the difference between our God the consuming fire, and the Limne of Theos.
 
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