the real divide

[Nadiine]

So why not head into what people's actual visions are here -- I knew GM wanted liberal fellowship, I read that from her posts.

But it's already set up that they can talk here now... the issue is recent memberships I would guess.

 

[Nadiine]

Well, I suppose those three could have their own forum if they'd like. Assuming they agree on everything -- otherwise they might have to subdivide further.

mac perhaps you'de like to reread your own thread on "how to communicate effectively"?

 

[Macrina]

So why not head into what people's actual visions are here -- I knew GM wanted liberal fellowship, I read that from her posts.

But it's already set up that they can talk here now... the issue is recent memberships I would guess.

How many times do we have to tell you that the newest members are not part of any liberal infiltration? They are conservatives who joined this forum, just like you and I. Period.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I don't have a huge problem with all liberals... if it can be kept away from religion--- somehow that always seems to creep in tho.

Really? Have a read through the thread I started in WWMC. No theology included.

I'll tell you something else. chaoschristian is someone I go to when am feeling blue. We disagree on *everything* theologically, and yet he's my friend and sometimes I don't know what I'd do without him.

No theology included.

We're in a spiritual war, not an actual one. We're battling principalities, not people. When it seriously hits the fan for us all irl, we're all gonna be on the same side.

As to the rest, God can handle it.

 

[Macrina]

mac perhaps you'de like to reread your own thread on "how to communicate effectively"?

At this point, I'd like to be banned so I can't ever come back to this horrid place.

 

[Nadiine]

The links you gave in the context of your OP is misleading because it makes it seem as if those posts were recent events and related to the present conflict. They are not related. They are related to a specific time frame when CCC was first being formed.

Lisa

Lisa, my point is that THIS IS WHAT IS WANTED HERE, by them, is it not?
Do they not want unity now?

 

[Nadiine]

At this point, I'd like to be banned so I can't ever come back to this horrid place.

oh brother
I guess if just 3 people dont' agree with you that it's now just unbearable.

 

[Macrina]

oh brother
I guess if just 3 people dont' agree with you that it's now just unbearable.

No, no, it's ok. If you push me a *little* farther, I'll resign. Keep up the good work!

 

[BelindaP]

OK. Everybody back away slowly from the keyboard. Breathe deeply. Pray. Go to bed, read a book--anything else right now.

 

[Macrina]

oh brother
I guess if just 3 people dont' agree with you that it's now just unbearable.

Pot, I'd like you to meet kettle.

 

[Macrina]

OK. Everybody back away slowly from the keyboard. Breathe deeply. Pray. Go to bed, read a book--anything else right now.

Thank you, Belinda.

I'm leaving.

 

[£amb]

I agree. Those threads were done awhile ago when the conservative area was just getting on their feet. The fighting between us and the liberals were something to behold. Green, Jim and a couple others offered a friendship hand to cease the arguing.....NOT aligning our beliefs. I have felt lately that if I do not fight verbally against liberals then I'm not conservative enough or not taking a stand against truth. Believe me, I'm extreme conservative. Very, very conservative. But I do not pick a fight with every liberal coming in here. I understand if a liberal were coming in to cause problems or to sway their beliefs on others. That's not what I'm referring too. I'm referring to the liberals who come in to fellowship and shoot the....well can't say the word... There are liberals I have known outside this conservative area that I consider friends because of their kindness, love and fellowship. Not every liberal comes in to destroy us because some are already friends with people within this area. I have come to accept that and not nit-pick their every motive.


I agree that the timing of everything going on here seems suspicious....but here's my honest thought about it. We've had several new people coming into this area to see what all the hub-bub is about. Maybe their views are conservative, but we never knew. Could it be a possibility that they read through the forum and liked what they saw and wanted to join? This is only my opinion. Not saying this is true or anything, but just my thought.

I just wish all this fighting would stop. Every thread turns to crap and everyone leaves hurt, depressed and ticked off. I love everyone here dearly and they are my brothers/sisters in Christ.

We need to wait and see what the new owner is gonna do. We are fighting over things that Erwin put into place....so these issues seem moot right now.

This post is not aimed at anyone....just unloading frustration which I seem to be doing alot lately. It's very much not like me to do this and it upsets me to do it.

 

[Nadiine]

why did I KNOW this would happen. YOu guys just enjoy your attacks on me now.

I'm going to go do something productive instead of sitting her listening to a few people who want to claim they're SO loving, yet not ACT loving to people who are trying to figure out what the sources are to fix them.

God forbid I tried anything here. I've BEEN trying.
I think you have helped make this area what it is - and if you think I feel it's pleasant by the rude crap I'm reading, you're wrong.

 

[Hentenza]

The links you gave in the context of your OP is misleading because it makes it seem as if those posts were recent events and related to the present conflict. They are not related. They are related to a specific time frame when CCC was first being formed.

Lisa

I am a witness to that. At the time that those posts were made there was a war between both forums. We were merely trying to "bridge the gap" socially to stop the war. Everyone involved understood that there would not be a theological unity but merely cease fire.

 

[£amb]

Nadiine...

I just wanted it repeated that the reason for those older threads were not made to join our beliefs. They were made to extend a hand of friendship to cease the fighting between us. It was to learn that we are real people with differences and just to get to know alittle about each other and where we stand with Christ.

 

[Lisa0315]

Lisa, my point is that THIS IS WHAT IS WANTED HERE, by them, is it not?
Do they not want unity now?

Nope! I don't think anyone ever said that. I don't know what your source is on that, but if you are using those posts as your source, it is just not right and not true.

I have fought with Greenie and Jim to make CCC free from attacks from Liberals. Side by side with them. They went a step further and also sought to make them understand that while we did not agree theologically, they did not want to be haters either. I didn't go that far but that does not make them liberal. What it makes them is obedient to God. Jesus said to love your enemies and that is exactly what Greenie and Jim did. Macrina, the same thing. Theologically, we are completely opposed, but we are still brothers and sisters with them even if they are very very wrong in doctrine.

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

why did I KNOW this would happen. YOu guys just enjoy your attacks on me now.

I'm going to go do something productive instead of sitting her listening to a few people who want to claim they're SO loving, yet not ACT loving to people who are trying to figure out what the sources are to fix them.

God forbid I tried anything here. I've BEEN trying.
I think you have helped make this area what it is - and if you think I feel it's pleasant by the rude crap I'm reading, you're wrong.

No one is attacking you. Just because people are pointing out that you are wrong about this is not a personal attack.

Lisa

 

[tkoman]

Are we supposed to hold hands and sing kumbaya now? Or later?

 

[Nadiine]

Nope! I don't think anyone ever said that. I don't know what your source is on that, but if you are using those posts as your source, it is just not right and not true.

I have fought with Greenie and Jim to make CCC free from attacks from Liberals. Side by side with them. They went a step further and also sought to make them understand that while we did not agree theologically, they did not want to be haters either. I didn't go that far but that does not make them liberal. What it makes them is obedient to God. Jesus said to love your enemies and that is exactly what Greenie and Jim did. Macrina, the same thing. Theologically, we are completely opposed, but we are still brothers and sisters with them even if they are very very wrong in doctrine.

Lisa

Ahh, something civil. praise God.

So let me get this straight, there isn't a group that wants "unity" with WWMC?
We want to allow fellowship here with liberals, but not discussions on theology?
Is this correct?

 

[£amb]

Are we supposed to hold hands and sing kumbaya now? Or later?

Later after Kettle corn and my show Ghosthunters...