The Rapture!

[yeshuasavedme]

Huh? to that I highlighted in green could you dumb it down for me?

You isolated it from its context.
The Torah is called the Living Oracles, and they were committed only to the namesake people of the New Man name. To learn from the "Tutor" which is "schoolmaster", as Paul states, to bring us to Christ, one must learn the "abc's/first principles" of those Living Oracles, which were committed only to the namesake people of the New Man name.

YHWH the Word, come in flesh, did not go beyond what was written, and came to fulfill all that was written. Nothing will pass away in those Oracles until all is fulfilled. The Atonement is fulfilled/finished, and accepted, once, for all, and that will never be done again in the Millennial reign's temple:
[Jer 3:16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit [it]; neither shall [that] be done any more.];
But all is not fulfilled yet, that is written in the "Oracles", and all shall be. To learn what is coming, learn the abc's of the Oracles doctrine, as is written in Hebrews 5:12, else one has no authority to be a "teacher" in the Church of Christ.


The "laqach" [rapture] is written in the Oracles, and Paul got his information from there, by revelation, which is how we receive any understanding of what is written. There is no new information to be got, and the rapture is already oracled in the "Schoolmaster".
So; Paul's first and last trumps that call the ingathering to Christ is found in the Oracles, as I wrote, in the Scriptures noted in my post; and it is the time of the translation of the saints to bodies of Glory. The dead are raised and the living are changed and all are ingathered as the first harvest, which is typed in Pentecost in the Oracles, and they are changed at that time, elementally, in bodies, to those bodies of glory which are typed in the garments of priesthood made for "beauty and for glory", which the sons of the High Priest in the Living Oracles wore.
They are changed and clothed in those New Man garments so as to stand before Him/the Firstborn, in His heavenly temple, as adopted sons and "priests" in His New Man order [the one Adam was created for and lost, and which the New Man is come in flesh of second creation to ransom back the earth, for, and to adopt the Atoned for/cleansed souls who are born in Adam, as His own sons, so as to give them the inheritance which Adam lost and which He has come to ransom back; so as to rule it as "Firstborn" -High King and High Priest", of it in the regeneration of it. To be "raptured/laqach" as it pertains to the adopted sons of Christ is to be "adopted in bodies of the New Man creation", and those are the garments of priesthood received when we are changed and caught up to meet Him in the air, with the resurrected dead in their elementally changed bodies.

Then, to celebrate the priesthood, we are invited to come in, shut the doors, and celebrate our consecration [as typed in the Oracles of God and which I posted the passages relevant to], while the tribulation commences on earth below, as I posted the links to several passages to, in the Oracles.

 

[yedida]

You isolated it from its context.
The Torah is called the Living Oracles, and they were committed only to the namesake people of the New Man name. To learn from the "Tutor" which is "schoolmaster", as Paul states, to bring us to Christ, one must learn the "abc's/first principles" of those Living Oracles, which were committed only to the namesake people of the New Man name.

YHWH the Word, come in flesh, did not go beyond what was written, and came to fulfill all that was written. Nothing will pass away in those Oracles until all is fulfilled. The Atonement is fulfilled/finished, and accepted, once, for all, and that will never be done again in the Millennial reign's temple:
[Jer 3:16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit [it]; neither shall [that] be done any more.];
But all is not fulfilled yet, that is written in the "Oracles", and all shall be. To learn what is coming, learn the abc's of the Oracles doctrine, as is written in Hebrews 5:12, else one has no authority to be a "teacher" in the Church of Christ.


The "laqach" [rapture] is written in the Oracles, and Paul got his information from there, by revelation, which is how we receive any understanding of what is written. There is no new information to be got, and the rapture is already oracled in the "Schoolmaster".
So; Paul's first and last trumps that call the ingathering to Christ is found in the Oracles, as I wrote, in the Scriptures noted in my post; and it is the time of the translation of the saints to bodies of Glory. The dead are raised and the living are changed and all are ingathered as the first harvest, which is typed in Pentecost in the Oracles, and they are changed at that time, elementally, in bodies, to those bodies of glory which are typed in the garments of priesthood made for "beauty and for glory", which the sons of the High Priest in the Living Oracles wore.
They are changed and clothed in those New Man garments so as to stand before Him/the Firstborn, in His heavenly temple, as adopted sons and "priests" in His New Man order [the one Adam was created for and lost, and which the New Man is come in flesh of second creation to ransom back the earth, for, and to adopt the Atoned for/cleansed souls who are born in Adam, as His own sons, so as to give them the inheritance which Adam lost and which He has come to ransom back; so as to rule it as "Firstborn" -High King and High Priest", of it in the regeneration of it. To be "raptured/laqach" as it pertains to the adopted sons of Christ is to be "adopted in bodies of the New Man creation", and those are the garments of priesthood received when we are changed and caught up to meet Him in the air, with the resurrected dead in their elementally changed bodies.

Then, to celebrate the priesthood, we are invited to come in, shut the doors, and celebrate our consecration [as typed in the Oracles of God and which I posted the passages relevant to], while the tribulation commences on earth below, as I posted the links to several passages to, in the Oracles.

Thanks for making the effort. I appreciate it.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Thanks for making the effort. I appreciate it.

You are welcome.
So the doctrine of "the rapture" cannot be isolated from the Oracles, as so many blindly do. In the Oracles, it is the "laqach" to heaven.
It is that time of being changed to the bodies made "for beauty and for Glory", as typed in the Oracles, in the priesthood holy garments, in which bodies we enter the temple in heaven, celebrate the adoption as His sons, and are consecrated in our offices for the week celebration, as sons of the Firstborn.

Exd 28:2 And thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron thy brother for glory and for beauty
.Exd 28:40 And for Aaron's sons thou shalt make coats, and thou shalt make for them girdles, and bonnets shalt thou make for them, for glory and for beauty.
Isa 28:5 In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,


Rom 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom [pertaineth] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service [of God], and the promises;
The adoption "pertains to Israel", and the adoption rehearsed by the Oracle keepers is completed in two harvests of earth: Pentecost and Tabernacles. Until that final adoption is completed, which is the ingathering of the harvest, the Oracles will continue to be rehearsed by the namesake people of that New Man name during the millennial Sabbath.
The completion of the ingathering of the harvest of Pentecost comes at the first resurrection, and is completed in three ingathering stages: First of Firstfruits, Firstfruits, and that remnant at the end of the tribulation who were martyred during tribulation for the sake of the name of the Son of Man who is Christ come in flesh.

The last ingathering begins with the firstfruits of Israel, who are those twelve thousand from the twelve tribes taken to Glory mid-trib who are changed without dying in bodies, as all the last harvest typed in Tabernacles shall be, at the end of the millennial Sabbath, for there is no more death of the righteous, in the millennial reign of the restoration of earth, when those in that Sabbath of earth's thousands, eat of the Tree of Life and do not die, for there is no more death for the righteous after the first resurrection is ended at the end of the tribulation. So, in the tribulation, we see the second harvest begins to be ingathered before the remnant of the first harvest is ingathered -as the Oracles state!.

 

[yedida]

You are welcome.
So the doctrine of "the rapture" cannot be isolated from the Oracles, as so many blindly do. In the Oracles, it is the "laqach" to heaven.
It is that time of being changed to the bodies made "for beauty and for Glory", as typed in the Oracles, in the priesthood holy garments, in which bodies we enter the temple in heaven, celebrate the adoption as His sons, and are consecrated in our offices for the week celebration, as sons of the Firstborn.

Exd 28:2 And thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron thy brother for glory and for beauty.Exd 28:40 And for Aaron's sons thou shalt make coats, and thou shalt make for them girdles, and bonnets shalt thou make for them, for glory and for beauty.Isa 28:5 In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,
The adoption "pertains to Israel", and the adoption rehearsed by the Oracle keepers is completed in two harvests of earth: Pentecost and Tabernacles. Until that final adoption is completed, which is the ingathering of the harvest, the Oracles will continue to be rehearsed by the namesake people of that New Man name during the millennial Sabbath.
The completion of the ingathering of the harvest of Pentecost comes at the first resurrection, and is completed in three ingathering stages: First of Firstfruits, Firstfruits, and that remnant at the end of the tribulation who were martyred during tribulation for the sake of the name of the Son of Man who is Christ come in flesh.

The last ingathering begins with the firstfruits of Israel, who are those twelve thousand from the twelve tribes taken to Glory mid-trib who are changed without dying in bodies, as all the last harvest typed in Tabernacles shall be, at the end of the millennial Sabbath, for there is no more death of the righteous, in the millennial reign of the restoration of earth, when those in that Sabbath of earth's thousands, eat of the Tree of Life and do not die, for there is no more death for the righteous after the first resurrection is ended at the end of the tribulation. So, in the tribulation, we see the second harvest begins to be ingathered before the remnant of the first harvest is ingathered -as the Oracles state!.

I'm not a believer of a "rapture," at least not in the sense that most use it. There will be a gathering, a catching or snatching away (from danger into supernatural protection) but not out of this world. There is only one second coming, not several.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I'm not a believer of a "rapture," at least not in the sense that most use it. There will be a gathering, a catching or snatching away (from danger into supernatural protection) but not out of this world. There is only one second coming, not several.

Matthew 24:31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a trumpet/salpiggoV <4536> sound, great, and they shall be upon-together-gathering/episunaxousin <1996> (5692) the out-called-ones of Him out of the four winds, from extremities of heavens till the extremities of them.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the sound/voice of the seventh Messenger whenever He may be being about to be
trumpeting/salpizein <4537> (5721) also is finish the mystery of the God
as He brings Well-Message to His bond-servants the prophets

 

[yedida]

Matthew 24:31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a trumpet/salpiggoV <4536> sound, great, and they shall be upon-together-gathering/episunaxousin <1996> (5692) the out-called-ones of Him out of the four winds, from extremities of heavens till the extremities of them.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the sound/voice of the seventh Messenger whenever He may be being about to be
trumpeting/salpizein <4537> (5721) also is finish the mystery of the God
as He brings Well-Message to His bond-servants the prophets

That means a lot to me.

 

[1whirlwind]

The sad thing is that if you attribute the fig tree parable to pre trib rapture, then your understanding of the fig tree is incorrect.

I note that you say, learn about fig trees a lot.
That is the ironic part.

The pretribulation rapture doctrine is indeed Satanic, meant to promise a false sense of salvation, by flying to save their souls.

God is against that teaching and the ones who teach it.
But He is not against those duped by that lie. He will save even the duped, eventually, even if it takes 1000 years to do so.

Well said!


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[POSTIOS]

Hi Friend!!!!

I don't get that from reading revelation tho, I get one group of 144k male virgins from Israel which I think is the Bride, and then a great multitude that no man can number that came out of the great tribulation, which I believe is all of the other believers that remained faithful to the end.

I've read it over and over again, that's exactly what I read.

the 144000 virgins, I liken to 2 Corinthians 5.

1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
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They are sealed in their minds, before the tribulation winds blow, in Revelaion 7 kind of like in the marking of Ezekiel 9.

1He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.
2And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.
3And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
7And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
8And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
9Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
10And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
11And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.
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They are indeed gathered to Christ, but not pre tribulation.
That would defeat the purpose of the sealing/marking in the first place.

Some of the confusion can be overcome when we realize that The Revelation of Jesus Christ given to John has lienar sections but is not wholely linear. There are overlapping parts.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That means a lot to me.

Thank you.
Here are some interesting articles concerning the Dispensationalists view of the "rapture" if you or others are interested.
God bless

http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/articles/subcats.asp?id=9%7C21

Evaluating Premillennialism: Part II - Christ&#8217;s Return and the Rapture by Cornelis P. Venema
No evaluation of Dispensational Premillennialism may ignore its teaching of a two-phased return of Christ, the first phase of which is commonly known as the rapture.

.........Dispensationalism has a pervasive influence not only extensively, but also intensively. It is usually the case that those who embrace its teachings as a system are affected in almost every area of their theological thinking.

So pervasive is its effect on those who have become its pupils, that even those who have come to see the error of its basic presuppositions testify that dispensational cobwebs have remained in their thinking for a long time after the initial sweeping took place. My own experience bears witness to the truth of what I say.............

 

[yeshuasavedme]

I'm not a believer of a "rapture," at least not in the sense that most use it. There will be a gathering, a catching or snatching away (from danger into supernatural protection) but not out of this world. There is only one second coming, not several.

Only because you haven't been taught to look into the Oracles for doctrine on the adoption into the Living Spirit [Christ is that Spirit]and Name [elementally changed bodies to those named Israel, not Adam] of earth's "Firstborn Son".


Psalms 50 shows the gathering together unto Him, which is "in the air/heaven" before the judgment on the earth below, as Isaiah 26:19-21 and as Isaiah 27 shows and also as Psalm 75:2,3 shows: He "laqachs" His congregation, which means "removes them from the midst, before He judges those remaining inhabitants of earth and resets the "pillars of earth", when every heart melts for fear.

There is no way the sons, being adopted in bodies of New Man image, can get garmented and anointed in their New Man bodies without spending the week typed in Leviticus 8, behind the shut doors of the heavenly temple, celebrating their consecration to priesthood.
In Isaiah 26:19-21, the dead in Christ are resurrected, the living are changed, and they appear before the heavenly temple doors, together; they are told to come in, shut the doors, and be hidden while He comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth, which is the tribulation as chapter 27 also shows..

So what we do in the temple in heaven, behind the shut doors is typed in Leviticus 8? -celebrate the consecration to priesthood in our "Garments made for beauty and for Glory"!

There are "doors" and an inner "door", which the bride, ready and waiting, enters into, and the door is shut.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

This correlates with the Oracles, and in Isaiah 26, we are commanded to "shut the doors" behind us when we are changed to glory and meet the Lord before His door, when the trumpets typed in Numbers 10 sound twice together to call the entire congregation to meet before the doors of the heavenly temple, to hear from YHWH: His instructions are to come in, shut the doors behind us, and be hidden, as pr Leviticus 8, for a week of consecration to our priesthood, while He comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth.


Priesthood to the Son of Man as Firstborn is "to stand before Him in His heavenly temple".

Those who escape all the things coming on the inhabitants of the earth in the tribulation, when the wrath of God is poured out on all the earth, because they watched and prayed, living godly sober lives, will stand before the Son of Man in His heavenly temple, but first, the celebration of their consecration to the priesthood in the New Man name as His adopted sons, in their New Man garments typed in the Oracles, must be celebrated for one full week.
That week correlates to Daniel's week of years, and to the time of the tribulation.



Isa 26:19 Thy dead [men] shall live, [together with] my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew [is as] the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Isa 26:20 ¶ Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

"To stand before the Son of Man" is a priesthood term, taken from the Oracles:
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
The doctrine of the "rapture" is about receiving our Garments of priesthood =New Man bodies, and entering into into His heavenly temple to celebrate our consecration for one full week.

Be ready to go when the last trump sounds which calls the ingathering of the congregation of the LORD unto Him, to stand before Him in His heavenly temple, to celebrate the consecration to priesthood in His New Man name.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by yedida I'm not a believer of a "rapture," at least not in the sense that most use it. There will be a gathering, a catching or snatching away (from danger into supernatural protection) but not out of this world. There is only one second coming, not several.

Only because you haven't been taught to look into the Oracles for doctrine on the adoption into the Living Spirit [Christ is that Spirit]and Name [elementally changed bodies to those named Israel, not Adam] of earth's "Firstborn Son".....<snip>

Is that a good thing or bad thing?

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Is that a good thing or bad thing?

Bad. according to the Word.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
If one is not learned in the "abc's of the Oracles", they cannot even be a teacher in the Church of Christ.

Hbr 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles[ABC'S] of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
So who is the Instructor to bring us to the end goal, which is Christ?

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Matthew 24:31 and He shall be sending His Messengers with a trumpet/salpiggoV <4536> sound, great, and they shall be upon-together-gathering/episunaxousin <1996> (5692) the out-called-ones of Him out of the four winds, from extremities of heavens till the extremities of them.

Keep context.
Matthew 24:31 is after the tribulation, when the martyrs are called from the ends of heaven, to be raised in resurrection bodies, who were slain for His name in the tribulation [and that is the end of the first resurrection -there is no more resurrection of the righteous, because no one dies who is righteous who enters the millennial Sabbath kingdom of His Peace], and the elect living of Jacob's seed will be gathered by angels, with them, but not to heaven. They will be gathered by angels [in contrast to we who are gathered together unto Him by the Holy Spirit in us, before the tribulation, and not taken by angels, in hand].

What they do who -are alive on earth and are gathered by angels after the tribulation, and who are the "elect" seed of Jacob- is detailed in Ezekiel 20:33-44.
The wicked "elect of Jacob" are cast alive into the lake of fire and the righteous "elect of Jacob" are given second birth of spirit [they are born again into the everlasting Covenant that the Jews were given the rehearsals of, in the Oracles, and they enter into the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world, so as to repopulate the earth along with the sheep Gentiles who are also gathered by angels at the end of the tribulation, as the goat Gentiles are.
There is no gathering of the Church at that time . The Church is not gathered by angels, and they do not go to appear before the LORD in the wilderness, at Sinai.


Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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The resurrected martyrs get the same reward as those who are ingathered before the tribulation, and they rule and reign with Christ, as priests, adopted sons -the "Bride"- in His heavenly temple, for the Millennial reign. They are those laborers who labor for that "one hour" of the "day", and get the same reward as those who labored all day.


Eze 20:33 ¶ [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.


Eze 20:40 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things.


Eze 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen.

Eze 20:42 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I shall bring you into the land of Israel, into the country [for] the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to your fathers.

Enoch also said in chapter 1 [quoted by Jude] that the LORD will return to Sinai, which is the wilderness of Ezekiel 20 passages where they are gathered and brought from the countries of the world to stand before the LORD and pass under His Rod, with the "Blessed of YHWH" entering into the land of promise, and the cursed rejects of YHWH cast away, in judgment, into the Lake of Fire.
Then the gathering together of the remaining inhabitants of the earth by angels, into sheep and goat Gentiles, to be judged by the LORD and the goats cast away, and the sheep entering into the Everlasting Covenant -being born again at that time] and entering into the Millennial Kingdom on earth, to populate it, along with the Blessed elect of Jacob.

 

[yedida]

Only because you haven't been taught to look into the Oracles for doctrine on the adoption into the Living Spirit [Christ is that Spirit]and Name [elementally changed bodies to those named Israel, not Adam] of earth's "Firstborn Son".


Psalms 50 shows the gathering together unto Him, which is "in the air/heaven" before the judgment on the earth below, as Isaiah 26:19-21 and as Isaiah 27 shows and also as Psalm 75:2,3 shows: He "laqachs" His congregation, which means "removes them from the midst, before He judges those remaining inhabitants of earth and resets the "pillars of earth", when every heart melts for fear.

There is no way the sons, being adopted in bodies of New Man image, can get garmented and anointed in their New Man bodies without spending the week typed in Leviticus 8, behind the shut doors of the heavenly temple, celebrating their consecration to priesthood.
In Isaiah 26:19-21, the dead in Christ are resurrected, the living are changed, and they appear before the heavenly temple doors, together; they are told to come in, shut the doors, and be hidden while He comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth, which is the tribulation as chapter 27 also shows..

So what we do in the temple in heaven, behind the shut doors is typed in Leviticus 8? -celebrate the consecration to priesthood in our "Garments made for beauty and for Glory"!

There are "doors" and an inner "door", which the bride, ready and waiting, enters into, and the door is shut.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

This correlates with the Oracles, and in Isaiah 26, we are commanded to "shut the doors" behind us when we are changed to glory and meet the Lord before His door, when the trumpets typed in Numbers 10 sound twice together to call the entire congregation to meet before the doors of the heavenly temple, to hear from YHWH: His instructions are to come in, shut the doors behind us, and be hidden, as pr Leviticus 8, for a week of consecration to our priesthood, while He comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth.


Priesthood to the Son of Man as Firstborn is "to stand before Him in His heavenly temple".

Those who escape all the things coming on the inhabitants of the earth in the tribulation, when the wrath of God is poured out on all the earth, because they watched and prayed, living godly sober lives, will stand before the Son of Man in His heavenly temple, but first, the celebration of their consecration to the priesthood in the New Man name as His adopted sons, in their New Man garments typed in the Oracles, must be celebrated for one full week.
That week correlates to Daniel's week of years, and to the time of the tribulation.



Isa 26:19 Thy dead [men] shall live, [together with] my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew [is as] the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Isa 26:20 ¶ Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

"To stand before the Son of Man" is a priesthood term, taken from the Oracles:
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
The doctrine of the "rapture" is about receiving our Garments of priesthood =New Man bodies, and entering into into His heavenly temple to celebrate our consecration for one full week.

Be ready to go when the last trump sounds which calls the ingathering of the congregation of the LORD unto Him, to stand before Him in His heavenly temple, to celebrate the consecration to priesthood in His New Man name.

What is the name of the bible you are quoting from, please?

 

[yeshuasavedme]

What is the name of the bible you are quoting from, please?

I use online Blue Letter Bible - Home Page site for ease, and the KJV is the posting but I am not KJV only, and I use the concordance for the original words. I prefer to go to the original languages to compare Scripture with Scripture.
Is there a particular passage or word usage that you want clarification about? -I can provide it easily, and correlating Scriptures, also.

 

[yedida]

Thank you.
So pervasive is its effect on those who have become its pupils, that even those who have come to see the error of its basic presuppositions testify that dispensational cobwebs have remained in their thinking for a long time after the initial sweeping took place. My own experience bears witness to the truth of what I say.............

I know what (s)he's talking about. I used to be constantly exclaiming, "I'm sure glad we're under grace now!" as if God's grace was a new thing in Yeshua!! How blind I once had been and egotistical when you think about it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I use online Blue Letter Bible - Home Page site for ease, and the KJV is the posting but I am not KJV only, and I use the concordance for the original words. I prefer to go to the original languages to compare Scripture with Scripture.
Is there a particular passage or word usage that you want clarification about? -I can provide it easily, and correlating Scriptures, also.

Good for you

http://www.christianforums.com/t7525115/#post56476716
So I'm fully convinced that the Apocalypse is upon us!

False prophets in Daniel in the Bible. Revived Roman Empire, Beast of the Apocalypse of Mark, and Antiochus the Selucid Greek

*snip*

.........As I have noticed while comparing translations of different verses in the Bible, even the most literal translations can suddenly depart from literalism, perhaps visit the Greek Septuagint and abandon the Hebrew translation for a single verse, whenever some highly cherished doctrine might be threatened by a truly literal translation. Rule of thumb : you should never, ever rely exclusively on one single translation.) ....................

I rather like this site to compare both the greek texts and Bible versions

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt
Parallel Greek New Testament Index

 

[yedida]

I use online Blue Letter Bible - Home Page site for ease, and the KJV is the posting but I am not KJV only, and I use the concordance for the original words. I prefer to go to the original languages to compare Scripture with Scripture.
Is there a particular passage or word usage that you want clarification about? -I can provide it easily, and correlating Scriptures, also.

no I can understand. was just wondering....

 

[LastSeven]

Hi Friend!!!!

I don't get that from reading revelation tho, I get one group of 144k male virgins from Israel which I think is the Bride, and then a great multitude that no man can number that came out of the great tribulation, which I believe is all of the other believers that remained faithful to the end.

I've read it over and over again, that's exactly what I read.

Sorry for joining the conversation late. (I tend to do that). I'm not sure about the 144K, although I believe it might be a symbolic number that signifying fullness or completeness.

But what I am rather certain about is the great multitude seen at the breaking of the sixth seal. They are those who take part in the first resurrection. This is not a rapture. Nor does it include all the saints. The first resurrection is only for those who are beheaded for Christ. These are the ones seen under the altar at the breaking of the fifth seal.

They are impatiently waiting for vengeance, which means they were killed and did not die of natural causes. And they are told to wait until the number of those who are to be killed as they were is complete. Which means they were all killed the same way, and they were killed in a particular way. I can only interpret this to mean beheading.

The very next seal sees this same group of people wearing linen, which means they have bodies, they are no longer souls, and they are rejoicing in heaven. They have been resurrected.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

no I can understand. was just wondering....

I have many translations in the house, and like to read a bit in all.
You find the neatest little bits of gold that way, to mine out of the mother lode; but nothing can stand alone in doctrines. All the Word is interwoven like lattice work, and you cannot pull out one strip without the whole being made weak, and no one can add to the lattice work, either. It is complete.