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I read the links but certainly don't agree with them. God says that He will get 12,000 from each tribe.........WE CAN BE SURE HE WILL GET 12000 FROM EACH TRIBE. I don't really care what man says or thinks.......We have the Word of God to KNOW what will happen. Surely you believe that God could keep the lines pure.
People said that Israel would not be formed as a nation. They came up with replacement theology to help God keep His word. He didn't need help. They said Israel was a worthless desert, God said it would produce fruit. How'd that work out.
It's time for you to start believing what God said and quit following what men say. When you do that, you will have a better understanding of what will happen.
So you conclude that Babylon is spiritual so Israel must be spiritual. You conclude that Babylon will never be rebuilt because Jeremiah foretold that Babylon would not be rebuilt.
Well, I conclude that Jeremiahs prophecy was not just against the city of Babylon, but against the land of the Chaldeans.
Jer 50
1The word that the LORD spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.
I conclude that the City of Babylon was not destroyed by the sword but was abandoned. I conclude that Jeremiahs prophecy did not occur thousands of year ago, but is occurring right now. I conclude that Babylon is in the middle of a three part judgment. Right now, a great nation has come against Babylon. In the first phase the nations of the earth came from the farthest border to shoot at Babylon. This never happened before but occurred in Gulf War 1. The third phase of the judgment will occur when the Medes (the Kurds) destroy Babylon during the Day of the Lord.
Jer 50
41Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
So you say that it is impossible to have literal Babylon and yet the truth is the judgment that you think has already happened is occurring right now. You might want to read Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Isaiah 13. You will see in Isaiah 13 that the Day of the Lord is near when this occurs. You might study what happened in Gulf War 1 and Gulf War 2. You might study and find that the city of Babylon was not destroyed by the sword but was abandoned.
You see, God will do exactly what he says he will do. He doesn't need any help to perform his word exactly like he says. So if you want to understand the Bible.......read..........exactly what it says.....and believe it.
I hate to say it Choosewisely, but you are reading the Bible carnally. In a perverted, literalistic way, not discerning the spiritual.
The Bible says just what it says, but it must be read in the Spirit. You are reading it with literalistic lenses--Jesuit Futurist theology.
What I have taught is not replacement theology. Israel has never been replaced---Israel has always been spiritual from its inception. The Jewish Nation has been replaced with new husbandmen (the church), but the vineyard, the house of Israel, has given to new husbandmen.
So what you are saying is that the literal city of Babylon in the Middle East is going to play a role in the last days?
Last time I checked, there is nobody over there but a museum. This is literalism to its nth degree.
"And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD. Behold, I [am] against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain. And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the LORD." (Jeremiah 51:26)
Just like says.
"In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD. I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats. How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations! The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof. Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby." (Jeremiah 51:39-43)
Just like it says.
"And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there. But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged." (Isaiah 13:19-22)
Just like it says.
Brother, I'm going to tell it to you straight:
YOU are BREAKING a fundamental rule in prophetic interpretation!
What is that fundamental rule?
That Law is "The Law of the World-Wide Symbolized by the Local"
The Old Testament was filled with stories in Local Palestine that TYPIFIED the World-Wide in the New Testament.
Old Testament Types:
-Old Jerusalem
-Earthly Sanctuary
-Earthly Priests
-Literal Babylon
-Ancient Israel - the Jewish Nation
New Testament Antitypes:
-New Jerusalem
-Heavenly Sanctuary
-Christ our High Priest in Heaven
-Spiritual World-Wide Babylon (apostasy--headed by the Papacy)
-Modern Israel - the Church (world-wide congregation)
By creating the rules that you, you make people turn their backs on God and focus on the earthly Middle East. In this way, Type always goes back to Type, Local always goes back to Local, and Literal always goes back to Literal. NO!
Type always transfers to Antitype, Local always transfers to Global, and Literal always transfers to Spiritual.
This is nothing but the Devils' COUNTERFEIT prophecy---a very prophecy devised by Satan himself to take the minds of individuals from the REAL issues.
I've got news for you Choose Wisely. I've got gigantic news! The things you see happening in the Middle East have NOTHING to do with God's end time prophecies. NOTHING! Get that through your head. It is the Devil's COUNTERFEIT prophecy to turn the eyes of men AWAY from the Pope of Rome and the United States.
The Sea Beast of Revelation 13 IS the Papacy.
The Lamb-Like Beast coming up out of the earth IS the United States of America.
The perfidious doctrines of Dispensational-Futurism throw all of these vital prophecies into some futuristic, fictitious 70th week so that the minds of men will be DISTRACTED from these truths, because Satan knows that if these things are understood, people will NOT be able to discern who the Antichrist is, or who the Lamb-Like Beast is, and therefore, will receive the MARK OF THE BEAST while they vainlessly have their eyes focused on the Middle East.
With all due respect, I say this with sincerity. I whole heartedly believe that all the events taking place in the Middle East is
the Devil's counterfeit prophecy to divert the minds of Protestants and Christians around the world from the
real issues that are taking place. And I make a call for all who are focussed on the Middle East to reconsider what I am saying, and go back to the drawing board. If it were possible for me to unveil all the things that are going on behind the scenes concerning the ecumenical movements regarding Rome and her Protestant daughters, your hairs would stand on end. It even gives me goosebumps at times.
For example: Most people do not realize that all the events that are taking place in the Middle East were created and started by the Jesuit Order, as a chess piece on their New World Order game-plan, to distract the Protestant world away from her true agenda! I am SERIOUS! *wonders if perhaps he has revealed too much information...shudders*
Example: Albert Pike, a Freemason--(Freemasonry was started by the Jesuits, and so was the Illuminati)--in the year 1840 revealed a 3-World-War blueprint, and embedded in this 3-World-War blueprint for accomplishing the New World Order was to
re-establish the state of Israel in Palestine after the 2nd World-War to create friction. From day one, the plan is based on Mark's and Engle's dialectic...
thesis vs. antithesis = synthesis (chaos creates a need for peace)....re-establish a straw-man state of Israel, and irritate the Muslim world--have them destroy each other, and out of it comes
synthesis!
The modern-State of Israel is just a pawn in the game...a critical piece being moved around the chess board by the Jesuits in command. The Jesuits know this, but they don't want the world to know it, because all the false Middle East prophecies are suiting their devilish purposes. They were responsible for creating the State of Israel. Albert Pike's blueprint in 1840 spelled out one of the purposes for World War II, and that it "was to be fomented by using the differences between Fascists and Political Zionists. This war was to be fought so that Nazism would be destroyed and the power of Political Zionism increased so that the sovereign state of Israel could be established in Palestine." (Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, XIV, XV)
Let us raise the question: What year was the National State of Israel re-established?
Answer: 1948! Three years after World War II came to a close in 1945! Just as Albert Pike predicted! A Freemason! (goes to show that they are in control of the evils happening in this world! They have it all planned out!)
Israel's re-establishment in 1948 was
not a divine act by God in the prophetic book. It was an act by the very
anti-christ system itself, to 1. Create a distraction in prophetic interpretation to achieve an ultimate agenda in placing the Eye of Lucifer (check your dollar bill) on the Pyramid and establishing the New World Order, and 2. To irritate and provoke the Muslim World so that Israel and the Palestinians would destroy each-other, creating JUST the "synthesis" they have been looking for! This so called "re-establishment of the State of Israel" was not in favor of the Jews. It was to use them as a pawn to accomplish a much more evil agenda. All they accomplished was create a massive Middle-East crises, putting the Jews in jeopardy. It was an anti-semitic move by placing them in harm's way.
I know it might sound crazy, but I guarantee you....oh I guarantee you,
I ain't whistling Dixie here. The information that I have in my possession comes from the HIGHEST sources in Freemasonry and from the Jesuit Order, and other secret societies. Much of this information is not even published on the Internet. You can't get sources from anything higher. They come from the highest of the highest.
So just what are the real issues? Here is just a glimpse:
1. The Papacy in Rome! (and her dogmas, and ever aggressive strides through global ecumenism, and world-power through the New World Order and Secret Societies established by the Jesuits)
2. The United States of America (the two-horned--lamb-like Beast of Revelation 13)--the smaller beast that will cause all to worship the FIRST beast before it (the Papacy).
The Middle East and a rebuilding of a third temple is NOTHING but a
massive, and I mean
MASSIVE distraction. The Devil wants us to focus on the Middle East so that our minds will be diverted from the real problems that we face in this world.
Oh that we may wake up before it is too late!
But how do we wake up to these things?
Answer:
Do not ignore the things I'm telling you. Put some trust and faith into what I am saying--that I do have such information. Read the books I recommend, listen to the audios and videos that I suggest, and study the materials
thoroughly. Then you will see why I take the stand that I do on such issues. These issues I speak of are not trifling. They deserve considerable attention. If our view on Bible end-time Prophecy is wrong, many of us will be caught "un-awares" with overwhelming surprise.
CONCLUSION:
The Israel in the Middle East that you see today is NOT, and I repeat NOT a true nation! It is a PSEUDO-NATION, fabricated by the Zionistic powers controlled by the Illuminati and the Papacy. They are the ones that MADE the STRAW-MAN-STATE-OF-ISRAEL as chess piece to accomplish her world-wide agenda, and help to distract and deceive the masses from her real goals.
God had NOTHING to do with the re-establishment of the Israel you see today. It was a counterfeit re-establishment.