The Rapture IS NOT literal.

[interpreter]

Well, I believe in Rapture, nut literally.

Jesus did spoke of it in:

34 I say to you, In that night two will be on one bed; the one will be taken and the other will be left.
35 Two will be grinding together; one will be taken and the other will be left.
36 Two will be in the field, the one will be taken and the other will be left.
(LITV Lk.17:34-36)

As in the days of Noah and Lot, the bad guys are taken and the good guts are left. I pray that I will be one of those "left behind."

 

[daq]

We have no disagreement concerning any of what you just said. I just differ in the definition.

I agree totally again. I just don't limit the grace of God to the one particular age for accomplishing the counsel of His will. Curious, why is the church so unhealthy and sick then?

But if one cannot refuse because they are unable to hear, then whose fault is that?

MAR 4:11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables;
12 so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven."

I believe in predestination for the initial salvation of the born again spirit. And I believe this is a salvation that only comes IF the Father DRAWS/DRAGS you first. As the verse above says EVERYTHING is in parables keeping them from seeing/hearing to KEEP them from CONVERSION and FORGIVENESS. How do you read this?

JOH 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws/helkuo him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

1670 helkuo: to drag (lit. or fig.)

You may disagree, but that's, briefly, where I'm coming from.

Sorry this is long, and not really on topic, so I answer and leave it there.

I agree totally again. I just don't limit the grace of God to the one particular age for accomplishing the counsel of His will.

There are two aionos-ages in the lifespan of every man.

Curious, why is the church so unhealthy and sick then?

Lack of repentance.

But if one cannot refuse because they are unable to hear, then whose fault is that?

His or her own fault because of lack of repentance.

MAR 4:11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables;
12 so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven."

I believe in predestination for the initial salvation of the born again spirit. And I believe this is a salvation that only comes IF the Father DRAWS/DRAGS you first. As the verse above says EVERYTHING is in parables keeping them from seeing/hearing to KEEP them from CONVERSION and FORGIVENESS. How do you read this?

Yes indeed no man comes to the Master Yeshua unless the Father draws him; and no man comes to the Father except through the Son. However, predestination occurs when a person first comes to the Master; from that time the believer is sealed with the holy Spirit of Promise unto the day of the redemption of the purchased possession, (which is at a later date and no man knows the day or the hour). The Father knows the true heart of the one who comes to Christ: some come for ulterior motives; to join a church, to become religious, to make friends, and in some cases only to bow to pressure from family or friends. There are many hidden reasons a person may decide to join a flock, church, congregation, etc. However, the Father knows who is sincere and who is not from day one, and those whom he foreknows from that date, (whether they truly repented or not) are predestined from that same day. No one comes into the body playing games whether they know it or not. Turn on any of the so-called Christian TV stations and we all know what can be found; the wolves in sheep skins begging old ladies to have faith, dig deep, and plant the seed of faith by sending in that thousand dollar seed money, checks or credit cards accepted. Those ones also have been predestinated from the very day they say that they came to Christ, (Woe!) because the Father knows their hearts from day one even though they may think that they are fooling everyone else. No need to say more about predestination because it will derail the thread but most all of what you have raised here, including sickness, (spiritual) in the congregations and churches is the result of a lack of true repentance at the onset. Those who truly have repented simply want to be pleasing unto the Master and to his Father, our heavenly Father; the same do not go around proclaiming that ''the Law has been abolished'' when they know deep inside that it has not. The point even according to Paul is not to ''abolish'' the Old Covenant-Testament but to have the veil removed from our own hearts and minds so that we may understand what it actually all means according to the teachings and interpretations of Yeshua:

2 Corinthians 3:14-16 KJV
14. But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16. Nevertheless when it [the heart] shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

Understand what this means? The point is not to do away with Torah or even the Old Testament but rather to UNDERSTAND what indeed it actually all means; for the supernal is the Spirit of Torah and not the letter of the Law. There remains a veil upon the heart and mind of anyone whose heart has not sincerely turned unto the Lord. That veil is done away only in Christ Yeshua the Teacher; not that Torah is done away because Yeshua is ''Mr. Torah'' himself, the Word, but rather it is the veil which hides the meanings of Torah from unrepentant hearts and minds which is done away when a person truly repents and seeks the Father through Yeshua his Son. See the difference? The difference is true repentance and sincerity of heart; then shall the veil over the heart and mind of the person be taken away, and not until then. We as believers can argue the truth until we are blue in the face but those which have not truly repented will never hear or understand, (unless and until they truly repent) because they more than likely have thrown some ''Christianity-religianity into their backpacks'' and subconsciously or unwittingly think they are going to take the Master along for the ride, as insurance, while they go along their merry own ways. Meanwhile never having changed, neither in mindset nor in their lifestyle. However, in the End; the Father will not be mocked, and neither will his Son, nor the Spirit of Grace of the blood of his Son. One does not graft Yeshua into himself and make him into a Gentile, (western mindset) but rather the opposite is true according to the Word of the Master himself, (Matthew 15:24).

 

[daq]

As in the days of Noah and Lot, the bad guys are taken and the good guts are left. I pray that I will be one of those "left behind."

The bad guys are paralambano-received-near and the good guys are aphiemi-sent-away into destruction?

''Be of good cheer son, the sins of thee are aphiemi-sent-away''...

 

[Hillsage]

There are two aionos-ages in the lifespan of every man.

Please elaborate. If it's too off topic I'd still like to hear your answer in a PM.

However, predestination occurs when a person first comes to the Master;

I would like scripture for that if you would.
GAL 1:15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and had called me through his grace,
EPH 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

The Father knows the true heart of the one who comes to Christ:

And Paul's heart was anti Christian as I recall (his testimony), when God blew him off his donkey and audibly spoke to him....I'm pretty sure my dad would have got born again too if that would have happened to him. But God never drew him or called him...so he still warmed a Catholic pew til the day he died. I share that to let you know that 'I know' what you mean about people in church. He, as I, was a RC because of "family pressure" until we were doctrinally brainwashed into thinking we were saved.

Those who truly have repented simply want to be pleasing unto the Master and to his Father, our heavenly Father;

I totally agree, but I'm sure you disagree with where that "repentance" came from.

2TI 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

I'm not sure how you got off into all the Torah and messianic elaboration, but I'll just have to say we're on a different page concerning much of it. I do have a close brother here who is always trying to get me messianized though.

 

[daq]

There are two aionos-ages in the lifespan of every man.

Please elaborate. If it's too off topic I'd still like to hear your answer in a PM.

Luke 20:27-38
27. Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
28. Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
29. There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children.
30. And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
31. And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
32. Last of all the woman died also.
33. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34. And Yeshua said unto them; The huios-sons of this aionos-age marry, and are given in marriage:
35. But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that aionos-age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36. Neither can they die any more: for isangeloi they are; and huios-sons of the Theou they are, being huios-sons of the resurrection.
37. Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
www.christianforums.com/t7477114-5/#post61000791 ~ ''This is the Second Death''

And this truly is on topic; for we must all stand before the Bematos Christou when the seventh trumpet begins to sound and the thunders begin to reverberate. And the seventh trumpet does not sound for everyone, all at the same time, across the entire planetary globe of the so-called earth; but rather for each in his own earth, to each in his or her own mow`ed-appointed times appointed of the Father. And if indeed that one overcomes in his or her own hour of trial which comes upon the whole world; then a huios-son is born into the Kingdom, and time shall be no more, and the mystery of the Theou shall be executed-performed, as he declared to his servants the prophets. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart. Behold, thou shalt see in that day when thou shalt chamber-in-chamber to hide thyself.

 

[Hillsage]

Luke 20:27-38
....34. And Yeshua said unto them; The huios-sons of this aionos-age marry, and are given in marriage:
35. But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that aionos-age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36. Neither can they die any more: for isangeloi they are; and huios-sons of the Theou they are, being huios-sons of the resurrection.
37. Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
www.christianforums.com/t7477114-5/#post61000791 ~ ''This is the Second Death''

I read this text but it comes up short in proving your point for me. This does not prove there are "There are two aionos-ages in the lifespan of every man." This passage is simply proves that in this lesson, only 'two' ages pertain IMO.

EPH 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

The fact that there are "AGES to come" implies that every man will have more than two, given that 'this' life is representative of 'one aionios-age'. I went to your posted URL, but didn't really see any application further supporting your 'two age' premise.

And this truly is on topic; for we must all stand before the Bematos Christou when the seventh trumpet begins to sound and the thunders begin to reverberate. And the seventh trumpet does not sound for everyone, all at the same time, across the entire planetary globe of the so-called earth; but rather for each in his own earth, to each in his or her own mow`ed-appointed times appointed of the Father.

While I totally agree, I can't help but wonder if we are talking about two different things based upon our individual understanding of the book of 'the Revelation of the Christ'. There are 'supposedly' 4 interpretative approaches to the book of the Revelation. I understand them to be; preterist, futuristic, historicist and symbolic. I fall into the 'symbolic' category. Are we on the same page?

And if indeed that one overcomes in his or her own hour of trial which comes upon the whole world; then a huios-son is born into the Kingdom,

I would not say he was then "born" a huios, but I would say that he is 'fully manifested' even as Jesus became the mature and manifested son at his baptism when the Father declared "This is my son". You may know better than I, since your messianic, but I have been told that in the Jewish culture a boy was called the male child of the father until bar-mitzvah. Then he crossed the synagogue to sit with the men...and his father as 'a son' of "Joseph" (in Jesus' case). At that point they entered into apprenticeship with their father's business. At the age of 30 they were considered as 'mature/huios' and the name on 'the carpenter shop' became "Joseph AND SON carpentry". They then received the signet ring signifying full authority to do the father's business in the shop. Do you know if that's accurate, or just another foolish Christian myth like 'the needle's gate, where camels crawled through'?

 

[daq]

The fact that there are "AGES to come" implies that every man will have more than two, given that 'this' life is representative of 'one aionios-age'. I went to your posted URL, but didn't really see any application further supporting your 'two age' premise.
While I totally agree, I can't help but wonder if we are talking about two different things based upon our individual understanding of the book of 'the Revelation of the Christ'. There are 'supposedly' 4 interpretative approaches to the book of the Revelation. I understand them to be; preterist, futuristic, historicist and symbolic. I fall into the 'symbolic' category. Are we on the same page?

Probably on the same page but the symbolism absolutely must comply with Torah and the interpretations of Torah according to the Testimony of Yeshua because the Testimony of Yeshua is the Spirit of Prophecy. Here is a pertinent example:

John 11:23-26
23. Yeshua saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
25. Yeshua said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he zao-quicken-live;
26. And whosoever zao-liveth and believeth on me; ou-me absolutely not shall die into the aionos-age. Believest thou this?

Revelation 20:4
4. And I saw thrones, and were seated over-upon them, and judgment was given unto them: even the souls of the having been pelekizo-hammered through the testimony of Yeshua, and through the Word of the Theou, and them that not had worshipped the beast, neither his image, and not had received the mark upon the forehead and upon the hand of them; and they zao-lived, and reigned with the Christou a thousand years.

Therefore continue ''hammering'' away at forcing your doctrine to comply with the teachings of the Master: and if your right hand offend you along the Way, then pelekizo it off and cast it from you. The Lord is not slack concerning his Promise.

 

[back2thebible]

there certianly is a gathering up of believers, known to many as a "rapture" the point at when it will happen is the arguement.......I have to side with Jesus and He puts it after the sign in heaven appears and all nations will mourn, They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other

 

[interpreter]

there certianly is a gathering up of believers, known to many as a "rapture" the point at when it will happen is the arguement.......I have to side with Jesus and He puts it after the sign in heaven appears and all nations will mourn, They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other

The sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds in 312 AD, on Oct. 28th, when Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. And he sent his messengers with a trumpet, and gathered all the Church together, to Nicea.

 

[back2thebible]

The sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds in 312 AD, on Oct. 28th, when Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. And he sent his messengers with a trumpet, and gathered all the Church together, to Nicea.

this is why people need to read the bible, I think the apostle Paul warned of people like this posters rendition, basically saying Christ already returned

 

[daq]

there certianly is a gathering up of believers, known to many as a "rapture" the point at when it will happen is the arguement.......I have to side with Jesus and He puts it after the sign in heaven appears and all nations will mourn, They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other

Hear ye therefore the parable of the fig-tree-branch: Every man has his fig and his vine; and in that great day shall be called every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree. When therefore your branch becomes tender, and begins to put forth his leaves, know that the appointed time of your harvest is at the very doors.

 

[Hillsage]

Probably on the same page but the symbolism absolutely must comply with Torah and the interpretations of Torah according to the Testimony of Yeshua because the Testimony of Yeshua is the Spirit of Prophecy. Here is a pertinent example:

And yet neither verses you subsequently quote 'is Torah'. And you fail to even support either with Torah. So I remain justifiably quizzical.

John 11:23-26

23. Yeshua saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
25. Yeshua said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he zao-quicken-live;
26. And whosoever zao-liveth and believeth on me; ou-me absolutely not shall die into the aionos-age. Believest thou this?

Yes the zao life of this age departed that man, as it does every believer today who dies physically. But that does not disqualify them from the ZOE life that pertains to the spiritual life that is truly endless/eternal. So this verse still receives no quickening reason for change on my part.

Revelation 20:4

4. And I saw thrones, and were seated over-upon them, and judgment was given unto them: even the souls of the having been pelekizo-hammered through the testimony of Yeshua, and through the Word of the Theou, and them that not had worshipped the beast, neither his image, and not had received the mark upon the forehead and upon the hand of them; and they zao-lived, and reigned with the Christou a thousand years.

Therefore continue ''hammering'' away at forcing your doctrine to comply with the teachings of the Master:

That's funny, hopefully you meant for it to be.

and if your right hand offend you along the Way, then pelekizo it off and cast it from you. The Lord is not slack concerning his Promise.

pelekizo Am I to assume, from this that you are like the pharisees, who have a 'spoken' Torah in addition to the 'written' Torah?

I was hopeful that you were going to offer insight to either of my questions in the last post, but you remained silent. Do you know if the child/synagogue, son/bar-mitzvah, manifest/signet ring of authority' story was true...as well as the 'Needle's gate' story enabling a camel to enter Jerusalem?

 

[Clare73]

The Rapture:

You either believe Jesus and Paul, or you don't.

"According to the Lord's own word. . .the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever." (1Th 4:15-17)

Just as they saw Jesus go into the cloud when he left (Ac 1:9), so we will see him come in the clouds when he returns (Mt 24:30; 1Th 4:17).

In the faith,
Clare

 

[sculleywr]

I would not think it unorthodox to believe in a lack of a rapture. TheOrthodox Church has not got a rapture theology.

 

[Phantasman]

I would not think it unorthodox to believe in a lack of a rapture. TheOrthodox Church has not got a rapture theology.

I don't know if I accept the rapture idea as well.

 

[daq]

And yet neither verses you subsequently quote 'is Torah'. And you fail to even support either with Torah. So I remain justifiably quizzical.

Yes the zao life of this age departed that man, as it does every believer today who dies physically. But that does not disqualify them from the ZOE life that pertains to the spiritual life that is truly endless/eternal. So this verse still receives no quickening reason for change on my part.

That's funny, hopefully you meant for it to be.

pelekizo Am I to assume, from this that you are like the pharisees, who have a 'spoken' Torah in addition to the 'written' Torah?

I was hopeful that you were going to offer insight to either of my questions in the last post, but you remained silent. Do you know if the child/synagogue, son/bar-mitzvah, manifest/signet ring of authority' story was true...as well as the 'Needle's gate' story enabling a camel to enter Jerusalem?

Just trying not to be overbearing to the thread. Your questioning is all over the board if you have not noticed. There are many, many, answers from Torah and Scripture which could be posted here but that does not make them on topic. There are certainly answers to all of your questions but your questions involve lengthy off-topic answers. Just because I did not fill a page with Torah does not mean I have none:

Revelation 3:18
18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Why do we need gold tried in the fire? What does it mean according to the Scripture? The OLIVE WOOD Cherubim in the Oracle-holy of Holies, (which the saints now have access to) were overlaid with pure gold tried in the fire. How would the two Cherubim have been overlaid with gold? The gold must have been hammered onto the Olive Wood. Do you believe yourself to be grafted into the Olive Tree of YHWH through Yeshua? According to the Romans 11 olive tree and branches analogy? It is after all an olive tree right? And the husbandman is YHWH who planted it to begin with. The Seven Lamp Menorah is also made of one piece solid pure gold; BEATEN, or HAMMERED, from TORAH.

Exodus 25:31-39
31. And thou shalt make a candlestick [menowrah] of pure gold: of hammered-beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same.
32. And six branches shall come out of the sides of it; three branches of the candlestick out of the one side, and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side:
33. Three bowls made like unto almonds, with a knop and a flower in one branch; and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch, with a knop and a flower: so in the six branches that come out of the candlestick.
34. And in the candlestick shall be four bowls made like unto almonds, with their knops and their flowers.
35. And there shall be a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, and a knop under two branches of the same, according to the six branches that proceed out of the candlestick.
36. Their knops and their branches shall be of the same: all it shall be one hammered-beaten work of pure gold.
37. And thou shalt make the seven lamps thereof: and they shall light the lamps thereof, that they may give light over against it.
38. And the tongs thereof, and the snuffdishes thereof, shall be of pure gold.
39. Of a talent of pure gold shall he make it, with all these vessels.

The Interpretation ~

Revelation 1:20
20. The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Your going to need gold tried in the fire to enter into the Oracle-holy Holies because at the same time you must lose that other covering Cherub in the process ...

 

[Calebt]

I believe the rapture will be spiritual and also physical at the same time. People will go missing as the Lord will take them away in spirit and body.

 

[daq]

I believe the rapture will be spiritual and also physical at the same time. People will go missing as the Lord will take them away in spirit and body.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of the Theou, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Therefore my counsel by the Word of the Master posted from above is to purchase for yourself gold having been tried in the fire.

 

[Calebt]

Hello, brother! Flesh and blood can ascend to the Kingdom of Heaven as was the case with our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ and Elijah.

 

[daq]

Hello, brother! Flesh and blood can ascend to the Kingdom of Heaven as was the case with our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ and Elijah.

Were Moses and Elijah in the flesh and blood when they appeared at the Transfiguration of Yeshua in the holy Mount? Perhaps you have the wrong impression of what has been spoken of Yeshua after the Resurrection? Did he not go forty days on that piece of broiled fish or meat which he took from the disciples in the ''upper room'' after he was raised?

Genesis 8:14-22 KJV
14. And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.
15. And God spake unto Noah, saying,
16. Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee.
17. Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.
18. And Noah went forth, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him:
19. Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark.
20. And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
21. And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
22. While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

Count the number of the days from the firstfruits wave sheaf, (Yeshua) when the firstfruits wave sheaf is offered before the Father in the morrow after that high Shabbat, (''touch me not for I have not yet ascended to my Father'') and what is that date coming forty days after? It is the twenty seventh day of the second month, 27 Iyyar, the same day in which Yeshua was received into a cloud:

Acts 1:3-9 KJV
3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
4. And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6. When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7. And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

27 Iyyar ~
''And smelled YHWH the sweet savour of the SMOKE of the most holy burnt offering ascending''...