The question cessationists must answer.

[Hazelelponi]

Just that scripture remains open for additional revelation if the gift of prophecy remains. One thing Paul said might help clarify what I'm suggesting.

Paul urged believers to come behind in no gift until the coming (apocalypse or Revelation) of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 1:7). This is the same word John uses for the apocalypse of Jesus Christ. What we call the book of Revelation.

So this is likely what Paul saw through a glass darkly. A revelation he knew was coming but didn’t know how or when. Paul urged them to continue seeking spiritual gifts until Christ provided that revelation. We have the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:1) through John about the time speaking in tongues and prophecy disappears from history. All later examples among sects being questionable.

I will consider the potential of being wrong on this point, although I'm not seeing it.

I don't believe scripture must remain open if prophecy remains as being a prophet was about being a warner of judgment..

But.. my belief there might simply be because I believe prophecy remains, so that might be circular logic on my part... lol..

At any rate I'm off for the night. God bless you brother.

 

[NBB]

Just that scripture remains open for additional revelation if the gift of prophecy remains. One thing Paul said might help clarify what I'm suggesting.

Paul urged believers to come behind in no gift until the coming (apocalypse or Revelation) of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 1:7). This is the same word John uses for the apocalypse of Jesus Christ. What we call the book of Revelation.

So this is likely what Paul saw through a glass darkly. A revelation he knew was coming but didn’t know how or when. Paul urged them to continue seeking spiritual gifts until Christ provided that revelation. We have the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:1) through John about the time speaking in tongues and prophecy disappears from history. All later examples among sects being questionable.

What is the harm to prophecy, some christians are afraid or something?, God is not going to contradict himself to what he has already said. Maybe God doesn't want new chapters in the bible, but prophecy can still be active anyway. I heard prophecies about my life some times, and was something familiar with was already had been said, or i understood was true.
God can speak in this days i assure you. He is not mute or something.

 

[Dave L]

I will consider the potential of being wrong on this point, although I'm not seeing it.

I don't believe scripture must remain open if prophecy remains as being a prophet was about being a warner of judgment..

But.. my belief there might simply be because I believe prophecy remains, so that might be circular logic on my part... lol..

At any rate I'm off for the night. God bless you brother.

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16–17)

I believe we have a more accurate prophetic word in scripture than any spoken word. Peter affirms this.
“For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:17–21)

And we have an inner guidance of the Holy Spirit that moves us according to God's wisdom.

“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13)

And, all prophecy today is false. The gifts having ceased with the apostles.

“And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,” (Acts 8:18)

“How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” (Hebrews 2:3–4)

 

[Dave L]

What is the harm to prophecy, some christians are afraid or something?, God is not going to contradict himself to what he has already said. Maybe God doesn't want new chapters in the bible, but prophecy can still be active anyway. I heard prophecies about my life some times, and was something familiar with was already had been said, or i understood was true.
God can speak in this days i assure you. He is not mute or something.

All prophecy today is false. It is very harmful to ignore scripture and listen to the deceived.

 

[NBB]

All prophecy today is false. It is very harmful to ignore scripture and listen to the deceived.

This guy who said the prophecy about me is the same that expulsed a demon from me, trough the radio, and with the Holy spirit he told me my thoughts, so for me he is very legit, if you don't want to believe suit yourself, but this is part of my testmony.

 

[Dave L]

This guy who said the prophecy about me is the same that expulsed a demon from me, trough the radio, and with the Holy spirit he told me my thoughts, so for me he is very legit, if you don't want to believe suit yourself, but this is part of my testmony.

Satan is a great deceiver. And even unbelievers can cast out demons in Jesus' name. Without knowing more it's hard to say but be careful and trust scripture not mind readers.

I'm curious, who was the preacher?

 

[NBB]

Satan is a great deceiver. And even unbelievers can cast out demons in Jesus' name. Without knowing more it's hard to say but be careful and trust scripture not mind readers.

He preaches about Jesus left and right, i don't see why this can be so controversial, God does things, he speaks today. And unbelievers acually casting out demons, the bible has an example of that.

 

[Dave L]

He preaches about Jesus left and right, i don't see why this can be so controversial, God does things, he speaks today. And unbelievers acually casting out demons, the bible has an example of that.

God only speaks through his written word. You can spot false prophets if you know what the word says. Without it, you are a sitting duck.

 

[NBB]

God only speaks through his written word. You can spot false prophets if you know what the word says. Without it, you are a sitting duck.

So your are helpless without advice from God in this life? he can't let you know even if you pray for example if your girlfriend is your correct wife? or anything at all? where the bible says that? Or warn you about something? He needs to speak to you at least with impulses to let you know things you know...

How can you spot an spiritual problem if the Holy spirit does not reveal it to you?

 

[Dave L]

So your are helpless without advice from God in this life? he can't let you know even if you pray for example if your girlfriend is your correct wife? or anything at all? where the bible says that? Or warn you about something? He needs to speak to you at least with impulses to let you know things you know...

How can you spot an spiritual problem if the Holy spirit does not reveal it to you?

Stick with God's word and avoid extra biblical "revelations".

 

[NBB]

Stick with God's word and avoid extra biblical "revelations".

From your point of view, God can't even tell someone what to do... So much for a personal relationship with Him, and that is so anti bible.

 

[Dave L]

From your point of view, God can't even tell someone what to do... So much for a personal relationship with Him, and that is so anti bible.

God doesn't work that way. He is not an on board GPS telling you to turn right at the next corner.

 

[NBB]

God doesn't work that way. He is not an on board GPS telling you to turn right at the next corner.

And if he has a plan, and needs to tell you to do something important for the kingdom, he can't do it then, so anti biblical.

 

[NBB]

Satan is a great deceiver. And even unbelievers can cast out demons in Jesus' name. Without knowing more it's hard to say but be careful and trust scripture not mind readers.

I'm curious, who was the preacher?

Claudio Freidzon, he is an Argentinian, Radio Gospel was the radio, 88.1, Buenos Aires, is 40 km away from my city accross the Plate River. I live in Uruguay.

 

[NBB]

Satan is a great deceiver. And even unbelievers can cast out demons in Jesus' name. Without knowing more it's hard to say but be careful and trust scripture not mind readers.

I'm curious, who was the preacher?

Here the first video it appeared in Google in english from him

 

[SkyWriting]

Prophecy hasn't ceased. Your a prophet. Paul Washer is a prophet. Anyone who teaches (expository preaching) God's Word is a prophet, when what they teach is through their understanding via the Holy Spirit then it's by direct revelation - even if its not new revelation. (New revelation has ceased and scripture closed, but not prophecy)False prophets exist today too, and they aren't always obvious.My opinion. Of course.

You haven't presented a case for the end of revelation or the continuation of prophesy.

 

[RDKirk]

I will consider the potential of being wrong on this point, although I'm not seeing it.

I don't believe scripture must remain open if prophecy remains as being a prophet was about being a warner of judgment..

But.. my belief there might simply be because I believe prophecy remains, so that might be circular logic on my part... lol..

At any rate I'm off for the night. God bless you brother.

Hazelelponi, be aware also, that "prophesy" means several different things. Christians have a tendency to speak of prophesy only in terms of future-telling. More often, as we see in the OT, the prophet's primary purpose was to declare the word of God to specific people or limited groups for immediate and personal edification--not as overall "scripture-level" prognostications.

The OT prophets were busy guys, yet scripture records very little of what they were preaching because most of it was of no concern to believers worldwide, but to the individuals they preached to.

As Paul speaks of prophets among the believers of his congregations, yet which of those prophesies were recorded as "scripture?"

So when someone counters continuation of the gift of prophesy by stating "the canon is closed," they are misguided--prophesy in general has never been considered scripture, either by the OT saints or the early NT saints.

 

[RDKirk]

God doesn't work that way. He is not an on board GPS telling you to turn right at the next corner.

Have you ever seriously asked?

God knows which direction you ought to turn. Are you so certain He wouldn't tell you, if you really wanted to know which way to go for His purposes? Are you certain He'd rather you go the wrong way?

Why would He not tell you the right way to go? Only one reason:

If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do. -- James 1

 

[GTW27]

What makes you think I'm not baptized in the Holy Spirit?

The words you are about to write, will define who you are, and who you are not. Even the bait is seen before it is set. Be Blessed and consider the words spoken.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

In Acts, God distributed the gifts in the two outpourings. And then only through the hands of an apostle. Only an apostle could impart them. When the apostles died off, only the ministerial gifts remained. Tongues, prophecy. word of knowledge, signs and wonders all ceased.

Where did God say that in His word? Are you putting words in the mouth of God, making Him out to be a liar?