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Dave L

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Your reply makes no sense or connection to my post?

If this is the post you refer to, I already answered it showing that Paul and Ananias were witnesses to the risen Christ, necessary for apostleship, and history also says Ananias was one of the seventy with Christ from the beginning.
 
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Why then did the apostle paul learn to be content when hungry and naked? Didnt God prosper him?

For the same reason that Christ who was rich for our sakes became poor to make us rich 2.Cor.8.9 this is not a glib response, for that is exactly what Jesus did and what Paul did.

Paul complains that he and Barnabas alone seem to be the only ones who have to suffer hunger and nakedness, shipwreck....why couldn't he be like Peter and the other apostles who led his wife around with him? you know what wives are like.....

Peter and the others worked among folk who were brethren, they knew how to give and support the work of God, and they did. Paul's work was among the heathen Gentiles and until the assemblies were set up and running he could expect to be holpen with little help. Once those assemblies WERE set up Paul was helped again and again.

...no that Paul looked to their gifts but he looked for their increase, the blessing those Phillipians would surely receive from God. It was Paul said a partnership of giving and receiving.

The church nowadays advocates a partnership of GIVE, GIVE, GIVE...and don't expect anything back.

But poor folks can't afford that. They CAN afford the bible way. In fact they can't afford not to.

Get with it brother, this is God's answer to poverty.

And the Corinthians DID become rich, Paul says "You are not poor ye have become like kings and I wish that ye did in fact reign that we might share the reign with you.
 
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No your focus is on preaching to poor people while their kids die of malnutrition. But dont feed them, no instead its ok to build a huge luxurious mansion. Thats what you are saying.

Where did I say any of that? YOU you are the one talking about earthly matters.

I am focussed on soulwinning.

Silly isn't it, Your pastor or favourite preacher/teacher lives in a nice house, sends his kids to the best school. Drives a nice car. Wears nice clothes. Has plenty the best food.

It's all meaningless, I am as thankful for bread and jam as I am for a roast beef.

You say are concerned for the hungry and poor but you won't shell out to send the preachers who are winning them to the Lord...that is the only hope they have for then they will pray and God will answer them.

It has been the prosperity crowd who opened Africa and Asia to the gospel. WHY?

Because it is God's message.
 
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That is the nub of your problem...you do not understand the power of God or the gospel.

I saw it more than 40 years ago. everyone was sending money and clothes and bicycles, and today they STILL are starving...I decided then to invest rather in the good gospel and in my lifetime I have seen those African nations turn to God and begin to prosper.
 
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If you would be a pastor, and some christian manifest demons in them like it happens, you would just say lalalala christian can't have demons...??
I would instruct them on what the Bible actually teaches in regards to this, and show to them no Christian can be demon possessed!
 
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Any verse that you can show me to support casting demons out of saved persons? Any examples that jesus or paul did that to those who already had been born again?
 
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All that you have given so far is the disputed ending of the Gospel of mark, and you have NEVER presented to us ANY verse that says Christians can be possesses, or need to have demons cast out of them!
 
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I can claim that the scriptures never indicate that ever needed to happen to a saved person, so its up to you to validate your claim!
 
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Paul learned to practice contentment, to experience the presence of the Lord Jesus regardless of having a lot or very little! There is the abundant life indeed for the Christian, but it does not consist of how much money/health/prosperity one has, but that they now have all SPIRITUAL blessings in Christ! Those who teach prosperity really are not teaching NT but OT promises to Israel, and go for it, but just make sure to teach on the curses there also!
 
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God has used in a mighty fashion MANY since time of Christ who suffered from various health and other issues, Spurgeon, far greater preacher than you or I am , suffered with Gout most of his adult life, and doubt that was due to "lack of faith"
 
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One of the biggest areas that satan has got into the church is in Charismatic Chaos though!
 
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Soul winning? Why would i give a false teacher money?
 
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Yet you cant even agree that we should be helping those poor children who die every year. Not once do i remember you ever agreeing to that one thing i have said.
 
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So answer this question. If i live in a multi million dollar home, while literally children starve to death in Africa, is that love?
 
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If this is the post you refer to, I already answered it showing that Paul and Ananias were witnesses to the risen Christ, necessary for apostleship, and history also says Ananias was one of the seventy with Christ from the beginning.
You posted it, not me, so I've no idea what post you meant, but it still made no sense.
However for someone who claims to stick to scripture, you again prove the dishonesty of that claim. Nowhere in scripture is Ananias called an apostle. And if he is an apostle, then he breaks your fake rules of membership and proves apostleship today.
 
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