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1. There used to be no such thing as specifically female trousers. They only appeared on the market after it became socially acceptable for women to wear such "male" apparel.angellica said:There are "trousers" that are made specifically for women that aren't made for men. There are not skirts made for men. That's why the different reaction.
I said sometimes it is because of selfishness that the person divorced, and sometimes selfishness coming from her husband that made her want to divorce.
That is what I believe on the subject, you can give reasons why I'm wrong if you would like to be involved in an adult like discussion.
What is there to discuss? Your mind is made up; those who divorce do so out of selfishness.
Nope, I did not say that.
Selfishness in some way, shape or form, coming from the wife, husband, or both is the reason for the breakdown of a marriage.
Isn't getting marriage also selfish? Marriage is a big party celebrating the union of two people - and the legal and social benefits of that union. Sound pretty darn selfish to me.Selfishness in some way, shape or form, coming from the wife, husband, or both is the reason for the breakdown of a marriage.
Selfishness in some way, shape or form, coming from the wife, husband, or both is the reason for the breakdown of a marriage.
Unless you can think of some other reason.
Well, yes, I can.
How's this one: one of them has a religious conversion, and, as a consequence, radically changes their views about philosophy, ethics, and politics. The couple decides, after much discussion, to amicably split because their worldviews are now simply too different for either of them to cope with living together.
Unless you can think of some other reason.
Has that ever happened?
Well, what is the reason they don't want to live together? Because it's an inconvience them having different beliefs?
I have no doubt.
Because they disagree about everything, including things that are highly relevant to their relationship: contraception, abortion, the roles of husband and wife, &c.
By the way, let's assume for the sake of argument that they have no children or other dependents.
It's an inconvience to have to compromise with your spouse all the time?
which mean you have to make unacceptable demands on one another, it's time for a parting of ways.
My only point in the beginning was that the break down in marriage (the majority of the time) is not because they were not playing their roles, but because of selfishness.
and with that kind of attitude the divorce rates and turmoils in familys today will never improve. Doing "what you want" could be anything, even killing someone. Marriage isn't always about doing what you want.
Taking care of your children or writing peoms dosen't reduce a mans masulinity. However in todays near non-existant roles and with feminism causing even more confusion and turmoil many men today will have identity problems as well as a plan later on as far as rearing a family. If there are no roles then there is no plan, and if there is no plan how can you expect to raise a decent family when you don't even know the role your in. Again, this makes is more justifiable for fathers to leave their familys and children simply because they have no idea anymore what role to be or what to do, and since many women are so abrasive towards the male role of supporter-provider it makes it even more confused and convoluted.
Also children are taught about sex at an extremely early age in most public schools and thus their innocence is damaged. Bullys tend to actually come more from broken familys that had physical or emotional abuse and divorce, so again we see it because of a family structural problem and the roles of wife and husband. Children need both these roles to respond too and it is very important to they' re developement. Its good for a boy to see his father be the supporter, protector and provider, and in turn it will teach him to do the same. Just as a daughter seeing her mother act in a motherly, feminine, modest manner, which in turn will teach her to act the same in thus increase her chances of having a successfull family and meeting a good husband.
The dialogue between man and woman has changed drastically. Men today talk to women in a very disrespectful objective manner. Women too talk to men in a disrespectful, brass, un-ladylike manner. Because neither person knows their role they talk to each other in any way they please. It is the loss of chivalry that domestic abuse has risen so considerably. With feminism making women more masculine men will start treating women more roughly and be more prone to violence. ANd with this increase in turmoil because there are no roles we can only see why divorce has increased the way it has. Because in a true God fearing woman and man a wife wouldn't even think of talking to her husband in the way most Western women do and visa versa. If that mutual respect between the roles of wife and husband cannot be met, then we will see the death of what very little chivalry we have left and continue to see the ruin of many familys and rising divorce rates.
No the maculinization of women today has perverted the males role between man and woman. A man who has a strong faith and understands the roles of man and woman could not even think of walking out on their wife and children.
But if this solid footing and role is confused or perverted being a dead beat dad is alot more justifiable.
They figure that if the woman is "independant" and 'liberalized' then she can do it herself without his help anymore. With the thinking that everyone is independent the husband and wife no longer think together as a unit. Marriage is a giving oneself to the other person and working together as a unit.
Have you ever seen the amazing flick La Vie Rose?
Okay, let me put it this way. Suppose you had a baby boy and you were given a pink sweater for him as a gift from a friend. Would you be happy for him to wear it?
Would you be okay with your baby girl wearing a blue sweater with a fire engine on it?
And, I would ask you again, do you think it is acceptable for a man to be a ballet dancer or a woman a bricklayer? How would you feel if your children took up these careers?
lol You're comparing "Reaching for your dreams to do what you want and being happy" with "killing someone" ? Duuuude! Whats wrong with you? lol And I'm talking about in life, not just in marriage; in life, YOU, are supposed to do what YOU want to do, not do what anyone else wants you to do. Thats what I mean.
I didn't mean "If you like killing people, you should"(and many do; they are either serial killers, or in combat over seas), and its kind of strange how you can misinterpret a very simple idea.
Reaching for your dreams, and killing people, aren't exactly comparable.
I love it when I say "Do what makes you happy" and someone can misinterpret it as "Do, what mkes you happy, murder included." lol It makes me laugh horrendously.
So, you agree that a woman can go out, make $200K a year while dad stays at home and takes care of the kids? It sounds like you have absolutly no problem with feminism. And you must be careful what you say; yes, many women are abrasive, but no more than how many men are abrasive and even abrasive. If a man has an identity problem, its a personal problem rather than society's. If a man "doesn't know who he is" its not wise to blame this lack of identity on womens' equal rights movements. A man's identity has always been the same, only womens' role in society has been expanded. This is no way should take away from mens' social identity.
Children need to be taught about sex otherwise they become sexually repressed(imagine not knowing what sex is until you get married, as MANY men and women did in the early 1900's); it is of wide consensus from doctors, pediatricians, and child psychologists that sex needs to be openly discussed in an orderly, honest and safe enviornment. Trust me, sex-ed is not a bad things; this is why you should be able to duscuss sex with your children as soon as you can before the TV/the child's schoolyard friends do it for you......Also, children who are bullys can also get it FROM their dad, y'know? I knew plenty of bullys in school, and truth be told, most of them were from two-parent households. I don't think what you are saying has much validity in it. A bully can be a bully even if his parents are good parents. Again, the feminist movement isn't to blame for all these tangents you're bringing up.
Trust me bro, men and women have always spoken harsh to each other if they felt a need to; just because we didn't see any of this behavior on "LEave it to Beaver" in the 50's doesn't mean this behavior didn't exist. You're sugesting that because women have equal rights, men have reacted violently towards women because of it? Dude, thats MEN'S problem! If we as men were REAL men, we wouldn't care what a woman does with HER life. A little boy would get upset when a woman takes his place ont he football/basketball team, but a real man would suck it up and say "y'know, maybe she did deserve it more than me, bc shes that good."
It sounds like society has less of a problem with equal rights and more with little whiney boys crying because now they have more competition.
It happens ALLLLL the time; people of strong faith will always find their faith shaken by ome life-changing event that takes a toll on any corner of one's life. Men of strong faith leave their families all the time.
No, its not. Being a dead-beat dad is never justifiable, and if people think that because women have equal rights to do what makes them happy and this justifies being a dead-beat dad, those people have sever psychological problems.
Thats the thing; many women realize that they are already a self-sufficient unit on their own, and infact, many women realize they operate MORE EFFECIENTLY as a singular unit of their own. Many women are simply dragged down by marriage. ITs not their fault, marriage just simply doesn't work for them.
The feminism movement is a good thing; we have our roles in society.
Heres a good role; be the best person you can be and do what makes you happy.
Thats about as simple of a role you can get that encompasses all degress of positivity.
And I'm still having a problem with you suggesting that "doing what you want that makes you happy" is somehow comparable to homocide....I think thats simply a childish thing to retort with
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