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Well, I can't argue with that. It frustrates me too. But I still find the idea that every atheist on this forum has been 100% honest is absurd. And for Todd to refuse to admit it is in itself "dishonest" and stubborn. This is the last I will talk about this subject because it is woefully off topic.
I didn't actually say that every atheist on this forum has been 100% honest. I said I hadn't seen any dishonesty. So in actuality, you're (again) being the one that's "dishonest and stubborn".
I am really trying but I am having trouble with my app in linking the posts. At this point I don't think it's worth the trouble.And you're not going to respond to my post refuting your claim of another poster's dishonesty, are you?
How about responding to my posts that deal with the topic? You know, like I've asked before and you've ignored...
You are now on my ignore list. Have a good day.
Perhaps you could persuade your God to give you knowledge of the forum's quote facility? without it your posts are unnecessarily confusing to read."Dave Ellis, post: 69749599, member: 298910"]If he can't be known or understood, then how do you know he's holy, perfect and more knowledgeable?
My comment: Simple! He created sky, earth and all the creatures including u and myself so perfectly. Your heart is beating because of his blessings. We are debating over this topic because of the knowledge that he gave to us. I know him 95%. I said he is not known/understood for the remaining 5%. You tell me if not God, who else can do this.
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Um, this is the philosophy forum; making arguments is what it's all about....Some people, such as myself, do not think you are worth their time since you really don't want answers to anything other than to give you more fuel to argue...
Um, this is the philosophy forum; making arguments is what it's all about.
Not only is plagiarizing dishonest, why would you waste your time on a forum just copy-pasting things from websites to argue your points? Makes no sense. It's almost as if he doesn't understand the arguments himself.
At times I wonder if people are convinced by really flashy bovine excrement just because they don't understand it. They figure that since it convinced them, it might very well convince others. I have seen students try this method, try to wow the audience with a bunch of big words and fancy pictures. However, a few well worded and basic questions usually cause their entire house to crumble to the ground. The same for many creationists we see on these forums.
At times I wonder if people are convinced by really flashy bovine excrement just because they don't understand it. They figure that since it convinced them, it might very well convince others. I have seen students try this method, try to wow the audience with a bunch of big words and fancy pictures. However, a few well worded and basic questions usually cause their entire house to crumble to the ground. The same for many creationists we see on these forums.
Do you know who exposed those hoaxes? Scientists, doing science.I will have to look into those particular hoaxes. It is honestly no surprise to me however that science has also been dishonest. Like I said, it's a HUMAN issue, it is not confined to one particular set of beliefs or viewpoints.
Dogma is the issue. How can one approach such matters honestly and openly if one is not willing to accept the possibility of error or the need for conceptual revision?I will not deny that there can be issues with "religious dogma". However, it is false to say that Christians are never open to "evidence."
I don't think close-mindedness is an honest approach to anything, not to science, and not to the Christian faith either.
Perhaps you could persuade your God to give you knowledge of the forum's quote facility? without it your posts are unnecessarily confusing to read.
It's up to you; others here do it, it's not difficult.Ok, I might not use quote facility coz I'm new to forum. But I'm pretty sure, u r too intelligent and can understand what I have written.
Was there a question? Sorry, I must have missed it.Perhaps u don't have any answer to my post
It's up to you; others here do it, it's not difficult.
Was there a question? Sorry, I must have missed it.
Do you know who exposed those hoaxes? Scientists, doing science.
But they weren't doing science, at least not good science. Being honest and open in one's approach to such matters is essential to good science.And do you know who perpetrated them? Other scientists doing science. Interesting how that works. Apparently not all science is as truthful and honest as we've been led to believe.
You do know that there are a lot of scientists who are Christian...right? How do you know it wasn't Christian scientists who reported the science frauds?...[emoji4]But they weren't doing science, at least not good science. Being honest and open in one's approach to such matters is essential to good science.
But they weren't doing science, at least not good science. Being honest and open in one's approach to such matters is essential to good science.
Unlike religion, science doesn't need apologetics. But it does need those who appreciate the work of science to dispel myths, misconceptions, and pseudoscience, which incidentally often comes from religion (e.g., creationism).Ah, Science apologetics.
Because that is fallacious. You don't know that they aren't being a "true Christian." They certainly think that they are. By contrast, we have ways of showing that a scientist's work is of poor quality, and we have processes for evaluating their scholarship. Your evaluative processes are tied to your theology, which is not universal even among your fellow Christians.Why should I accept your defense of science? You do not accept Christian apologetics. You know, when Christians try to tell you and other non-Christians that anyone who claims to be a Christian and yet kills or does something hateful or violent in Jesus' name is not being a good or true Christian at all?
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