The Plandemic

[Torah Keeper]

"On Tuesday, the Treasury Department said that the Social Security trust fund reserves have been significantly affected by the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 recession. The way things are going, the funds will only be able to pay scheduled benefits on a timely basis until 2034."
Social Security Is Running out of Money Faster Than Expected

That's probably Newspeak for +/- 2023. So much for the 4th commandment.

Global 2000 - Depopulation Program

I never put trust in Social Security anyway. I expected it would run out soon enough. But it won't abruptly end. It will just not increase along with hyper inflation. That $500 a month granny gets will not keep up when a loaf of bread is $10.

What's with the 4th commandment? Typo?

 

[Torah Keeper]

Not all of the religious buy into every conspiracy theory out there. It's mostly Evangelicals and conservatives which are basically the same thing.

I don't claim to know everything about COVID's origin but I'm vaccinated and boosted and I go where I want all the time. I never caught it. The people who believe the conspiracy and don't get vaccinated are the ones dying so I guess I see why they are nervous.

The danger is that this virus was engineered in a lab. Millions died because of it. If a worse gm virus is leaked or released, billions could die. The nonsense cover story about it jumping from a bat has thoroughly been debunked.

Genetic engineering is far more dangerous than people realize. We are living in the result of scientists tinkering with things they ought not.

Extinction is a very real possibility when people mess with the programming of life.

 

[Ligurian]

The $8.000 comes from the government at taxpayer expense. So if you are a taxpayer you are providing the money.

If the US government is $28.5t in debt... where did they get the $8k? I read some strange idea that each person owes a share of this debt simply by virtue of being a citizen of the nation, but I don't believe it makes sense. Especially when they go on to say that by paying taxes you are part of this machine... as though you ever had a choice in the matter. And frankly, I don't see anyplace in the US Constitution where any of this burden exists.

 

[d taylor]

If the US government is $28.5t in debt... where did they get the $8k? I read some strange idea that each person owes a share of this debt simply by virtue of being a citizen of the nation, but I don't believe it makes sense. Especially when they go on to say that by paying taxes you are part of this machine... as though you ever had a choice in the matter. And frankly, I don't see anyplace in the US Constitution where any of this burden exists.

I see what you are asking. As for where are they getting the $8,000 they are just printing it up, it is just paper to them. Of course eventually some group will have to pay the fiddler. Hope i am dead and gone or raptured before that happenns.

 

[Ligurian]

I never put trust in Social Security anyway. I expected it would run out soon enough. But it won't abruptly end. It will just not increase along with hyper inflation. That $500 a month granny gets will not keep up when a loaf of bread is $10.

What's with the 4th commandment? Typo?

(Typo. The 5th.) Kinda hard to believe the government is honoring old fathers and mothers when they're forcing them to fight the cats for kibble... but such is the price of war, for which they never seem to run out of money. The red horse of Revelation is War.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

A penny-a-day wages. (Today, day laborers average $14 an hour? probably artificial.)
A measure of wheat is a quart... 4 cups... 2 loaves of Peasant Bread per day.

When we arive at these stats, is the black horse riding? Famine.
Is the rider on the pale horse bringing Covid-19? Plague.
These 3 are all the usual results of war.
This means open war in the USA at the end times, so why are people coming here?

 

[Ligurian]

I see what you are asking. As for where are they getting the $8,000 they are just printing it up, it is just paper to them. Of course eventually some group will have to pay the fiddler. Hope i am dead and gone or raptured before that happenns.

(Yeah, me too.)

Why don't they sell the debt-paper to other countries they owe? Some are saying that the US owes some people that also owe them. So, it all seems like a shell game, or a game of chicken, or a chess game with human pawns. How are the peons supposed to take anything they say or do seriously? Trust no one.

 

[Albion]

"On Tuesday, the Treasury Department said that the Social Security trust fund reserves have been significantly affected by the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 recession. The way things are going, the funds will only be able to pay scheduled benefits on a timely basis until 2034."
Social Security Is Running out of Money Faster Than Expected

That seems to be just about what was forecast before the pandemic. Maybe a year or two sooner only.

But of course, nothing much will happen when the non-existent trust fund does run out (on paper) because Congress will simply authorize more deficit spending like it does with everything else.

 

[Ligurian]

The danger is that this virus was engineered in a lab. Millions died because of it. If a worse gm virus is leaked or released, billions could die. The nonsense cover story about it jumping from a bat has thoroughly been debunked.

Genetic engineering is far more dangerous than people realize. We are living in the result of scientists tinkering with things they ought not.

Extinction is a very real possibility when people mess with the programming of life.

What do you think about the theory of electromagnetic viruses?

Japan discovers “magnetic” substance in Pfizer covid vaccines; journalists start DYING from the vax they pushed
Antiviral performance of graphene-based materials with emphasis on COVID-19: A review
Is graphene harmful to the human body? - R4 DN

 

[Ligurian]

That seems to be just about what was forecast before the pandemic. Maybe a year or two sooner only.

But of course, nothing much will happen when the non-existent trust fund does run out (on paper) because Congress will simply authorize more deficit spending like it does with everything else.

OK-sure, what's a year or so to SSN's elderly mothers and fathers.
What if getting rid of Social Security is just another peripheral part of The Great-Reset plan... a sort of... taking back the New Deal?

 

[Albion]

What if getting rid of Social Security is just another peripheral part of The Great-Reset plan?

I can't see getting rid of SS happening in the future, but who knows?? All sorts of nearly unthinkable moves have been happening lately.

 

[Ligurian]

A kooky religious site. Typical - which is why you believe it without question, I suppose.

I suspect it has something to do with their aversion to understanding science.

I could point you to a forum for science, but then you'd have to forgive them for having a religion subforum.

 

[Torah Keeper]

What do you think about the theory of electromagnetic viruses?

Japan discovers “magnetic” substance in Pfizer covid vaccines; journalists start DYING from the vax they pushed
Antiviral performance of graphene-based materials with emphasis on COVID-19: A review
Is graphene harmful to the human body? - R4 DN

This theory is news to me. I did see the report a while back about magnetic substances in the vaccines. Not sure what that's about. There certainly are a lot of things being hidden from the public.

 

[d taylor]

(Yeah, me too.)

Why don't they sell the debt-paper to other countries they owe? Some are saying that the US owes some people that also owe them. So, it all seems like a shell game, or a game of chicken, or a chess game with human pawns. How are the peons supposed to take anything they say or do seriously? Trust no one.

I do not (trust gov), the government is a liar, its natural nature. Being that satan took over the kingdoms of the world after Adam brought sin into mankind.

Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

There are may be a few (countries) that have been good at hiding their true nature to most of their citizens over the years. But eventually their true nature pokes its head up. I believe that has been happening in america the last 60 years the beast is awaking.

I see certain groups of people being used to advance control over citizens.

 

[Torah Keeper]

I do not (trust gov), the government is a liar, its natural nature. Being that satan took over the kingdoms of the world after Adam brought sin into mankind.

Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

There are may be a few (countries) that have been good at hiding their true nature to most of their citizens over the years. But eventually their true nature pokes its head up. I believe that has been happening in america the last 60 years the beast is awaking.

I see certain groups of people being used to advance control over citizens.

Yeah the governments are corrupt. But I'm not sure that Satan has total control over all nations. He could have been lying saying that. He is the father of lies of course. I think at the least every nation has been corrupted or deceived by him is some way. But total authority over the whole world would mean Christianity would be illegal in every country. Thanks to Yaweh it is still legal in many countries.

 

[d taylor]

Yeah the governments are corrupt. But I'm not sure that Satan has total control over all nations. He could have been lying saying that. He is the father of lies of course. I think at the least every nation has been corrupted or deceived by him is some way. But total authority over the whole world would mean Christianity would be illegal in every country. Thanks to Yaweh it is still legal in many countries.

I believe he does have possession as that will be his attraction for the king of the north (beast from the sea) and the false prophet/anitchrist (beast from the land) that he will offer these kingdoms to these two in return for worship.

And as for Christianity, God can open doors and has eventually the ultimate control of His creation.
But man being sinful, i see satan understanding this, knows how to use mans sinful nature to his advantage. And can and has used christanity against itself look at all the different ways and denominations. If any group is split in its beliefs it is christianity.

I mean christanity can not even agree on the most important area of its calling. Which is telling unbelievers how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life.

A message so simple Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. that God can explain it in this simple verse. How could people get it so wrong, well sin and satan have helped.

 

[Ligurian]

I do not (trust gov), the government is a liar, its natural nature. Being that satan took over the kingdoms of the world after Adam brought sin into mankind.

Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

There are may be a few (countries) that have been good at hiding their true nature to most of their citizens over the years. But eventually their true nature pokes its head up. I believe that has been happening in america the last 60 years the beast is awaking.

I see certain groups of people being used to advance control over citizens.

(Yep, the serpent wants worship)

60 years... is that when they created the Federal Reserve and National Bank, where private industry was given the power to create money, over which private industry had control of the interest rates of the misnamed Federal Reserve? I think it goes a tad beyond government, don't you? I can't help thinking of the Pirates movie where the smirky white-wigged guy says, murder-by-cannonball, "it's just good business".

That doesn't make America the beast. Because Revelation is about religion... in it, we see the rise of the theocracy which controls the world. There'd be no place for the phrase "come out of her, My people" if this were not true. Can't really expect a Covid-derived welfare-nation to pack up and leave... because leave for where? is the next question.

No place left to go. Back against the wall. Turn and... do what, exactly? Fight the blue berets sent from other countries who don't care at all about Americans? Can't help thinking we're being set-up to be tarred and feathered... we've seen it happen before. And now it's coming to finish America, because we're bled dry. Kinda like what happened in the old country when Rome robbed us, crippled us, and left us for dead.

"Oh, and there we were all in one place, A generation lost in space,
With no time left to start again"--McLean, American Pie

 

[Ligurian]

I believe he does have possession as that will be his attraction for the king of the north (beast from the sea) and the false prophet/anitchrist (beast from the land) that he will offer these kingdoms to these two in return for worship.

And as for Christianity, God can open doors and has eventually the ultimate control of His creation.
But man being sinful, i see satan understanding this, knows how to use mans sinful nature to his advantage. And can and has used christanity against itself look at all the different ways and denominations. If any group is split in its beliefs it is christianity.

I mean christanity can not even agree on the most important area of its calling. Which is telling unbelievers how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life.

A message so simple Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. that God can explain it in this simple verse. How could people get it so wrong, well sin and satan have helped.

For people to worship the beast whose little horn was healed, they'd have to accept the bait and switch; but the people who know the nature of God won't be deceived, because they've been told how to spot the teachings of the false prophet; even the Risen-Savior-approved content of the Great Commission is disputed, and Matthew 28:20 is not hard language.

 

[d taylor]

(Yep, the serpent wants worship)

60 years... is that when they created the Federal Reserve and National Bank, where private industry was given the power to create money, over which private industry had control of the interest rates of the misnamed Federal Reserve? I think it goes a tad beyond government, don't you? I can't help thinking of the Pirates movie where the smirky white-wigged guy says, murder-by-cannonball, "it's just good business".

That doesn't make America the beast. Because Revelation is about religion... in it, we see the rise of the theocracy which controls the world. There'd be no place for the phrase "come out of her, My people" if this were not true. Can't really expect a Covid-derived welfare-nation to pack up and leave... because leave for where? is the next question.

No place left to go. Back against the wall. Turn and... do what, exactly? Fight the blue berets sent from other countries who don't care at all about Americans? Can't help thinking we're being set-up to be tarred and feathered... we've seen it happen before. And now it's coming to finish America, because we're bled dry. Kinda like what happened in the old country when Rome robbed us, crippled us, and left us for dead.

"Oh, and there we were all in one place, A generation lost in space,
With no time left to start again"--McLean, American Pie

the Fed was in 13 i believe, that is not exactly what i was speaking of more about a moral decline.

My reference to the beast in regard to america, was not a Biblical one. It was more for just saying that the country that many people perceive it to be (a christian following nation) will really start showing its colors in the future.

 

[d taylor]

For people to worship the beast whose little horn was healed, they'd have to accept the bait and switch; but the people who know the nature of God won't be deceived, because they've been told how to spot the teachings of the false prophet; even the Risen-Savior-approved content of the Great Commission is disputed, and Matthew 28:20 is not hard language.

For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

 

[Ligurian]

For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.