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Oh, baloney. He went to jail because he was a crook and guilty of tax evasion. he may be trying to get sympathy by pleading he is being persecuted because of his religion, but that is totally bogus. Also, Jesus make it clear we should pay our taxes.
 
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What on earth brought up Calvin here? No, of course, a Calvinist would not be into evolution. The T goes away? What do you mean by that?

He is having a dig at me, because I am both a Calvinist and a theistic evolutionist.
 
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There is a difference between Calvinism and hyper calvinism. Calvin asked some questions and began a conversation. Only the hyper people think what he said was engraved in stone.
Absolutely no. Calvin had very definite ideas he wanted set in stone. He was absolutely right, everyone else absolutely wrong. That's why the city of Geneva pronounced his "Institutes" a sacred work. That's why he had Servet burned at the stake. That's why Geneva has been called the new Rome, and Calvin the Pope of Geneva.
 
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Pastors are definitely not required to have Ph.D.'s. The Ph.D. is a research degree, not a service degree. Some clergy have a D. Min. and therefore are called "doctor." However, the D. Min, is not equal to a Ph.D., is a service degree.
 
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You shouldn't need any kind of degree to be familiar with the Bible. Especially when it involves a book that has been pivotal in the history of Christianity.
Depends how you mean "familiar." If you really want to dig into it, then,yes, you do need at least college-level classes and also it is helpful if you learn the biblical languages.
 
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You can't always cut deals. it is harder than you think. He was guilty, hands down.
 
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Depends how you mean "familiar." If you really want to dig into it, then,yes, you do need at least college-level classes and also it is helpful if you learn the biblical languages.

I mean familiarity with the ordinary English translations.
 
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Your thinking is very confused here. He didn't change the Bible at all. What he did change and challenge is the fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. The Bible isn't the issue here, one's interpretation is.
 
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That's why he had Servet burned at the stake.

Not exactly. Servetus was burned at the stake for rejecting the Trinity, something that was a capital offensive throughout the Holy Roman Empire. Calvin recommended that he be beheaded not burned at the stake but the city council overruled him.
 
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Pastors are definitely not required to have Ph.D.'s. The Ph.D. is a research degree, not a service degree. Some clergy have a D. Min. and therefore are called "doctor." However, the D. Min, is not equal to a Ph.D., is a service degree.

Correct. Most mainline churches require their pastors to have master's degrees. In the Presbyterian Church that is a three year program.
 
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Correct. Most mainline churches require their pastors to have master's degrees. In the Presbyterian Church that is a three year program.
Yes, I know. I'm PCUSA. I attended seminary, but was working on my doctorate in theology, not going into ministry. Some students went four years, to better handle their internship.
 
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Not exactly. Servetus was burned at the stake for rejecting the Trinity, something that was a capital offensive throughout the Holy Roman Empire. Calvin recommended that he be beheaded not burned at the stake but the city council overruled him.
That's not the point. My point was that Calvin was not easy-going, just raising questions. He meant business, his way or the highway to Hell.
 
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