the pastor wrote me a letter, but i don't understand it; what does it mean?

[vnct0000]

Why would they reject your baptism?

they didn't tell me. one church said that baptism didn't save me.

You have had an extraordinarily bad run.

You could always start a thread here: http://www.christianforums.com/forums/looking-for-a-church.680/

State what you're looking for, and see what people can suggest in your area.

i'm not looking for a church.

 

[Goatee]

Well, if you are not looking for a church, what are your aims?

 

[vnct0000]

Well, if you are not looking for a church, what are your aims?

i may build a new religion.

 

[Goatee]

i may build a new religion.

What type? And why?

Have you tried the Catholic Church?

 

[vnct0000]

What type? And why?

it would be a merger of all of the primary world religions. i believe that the current world religions have fallen apostate.

Have you tried the Catholic Church?

the Catholic Church had truncated the texts of the early church.

 

[Goatee]

it would be a merger of all of the primary world religions. i believe that the current world religions have fallen apostate.

the Catholic Church had truncated the texts of the early church.

Ok, you need to stop what others have led you to believe and go do some proper research. The CC 'IS' the 'Early' 'Original' Church!

 

[Paidiske]

Or, more accurately, it has developed from the early church with a high degree of continuity.

I have no idea what the OP means about truncated texts, though.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Hopefully any Biblical Assembly has restrictions on membership.

i found their grace gospel messages to be selective only to certain people and/or selective to only certain sins.

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None of them (Biblical) would permit membership to anyone with the following view.

i may build a new religion.

it would be a merger of all of the primary world religions.

 

[vnct0000]

Ok, you need to stop what others have led you to believe and go do some proper research. The CC 'IS' the 'Early' 'Original' Church!

okay, if you say so. i disagree with you. you've decided that i'm ignorant and haven't done my research, so i'm not going to debate with you.

Or, more accurately, it has developed from the early church with a high degree of continuity.

I have no idea what the OP means about truncated texts, though.

i was hoping to avoid a debate. thanks anyway for your input. i politely disagree with you.

 

[rturner76]

i've been turned down for membership at a half-dozen different churches.

I don't understand why a church would turn someone away. Did they contact the church you are having problems with? Were they asking for a sizable "down payment?" Do you mind saying what some of their reasons were?

FYI You would never be turned away at the Catholic Church. Just sayin-

 

[vnct0000]

Hopefully any Biblical Assembly has restrictions on membership.
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None of them (Biblical) would permit membership to anyone with the following view.

then it's probably not useful to invite me into the church, as i'm not a good fit. thanks anyway for your input.

 

[vnct0000]

I don't understand why a church would turn someone away. Did they contact the church you are having problems with? Were they asking for a sizable "down payment?" Do you mind saying what some of their reasons were?

to my awareness, the one church did not contact the other church that i was having problems with, but i really don't know for sure. i had accused one of the associate pastors of 'disenfranchisement' when i was not allowed to even apply for membership, amidst 70 others who were permitted to apply.

FYI You would never be turned away at the Catholic Church. Just sayin-

i've not applied for membership with the Catholic Church.

 

[Goatee]

to my awareness, the one church did not contact the other church that i was having problems with, but i really don't know for sure. i had accused one of the associate pastors of 'disenfranchisement' when i was not allowed to even apply for membership, amidst 70 others who were permitted to apply.

i've not applied for membership with the Catholic Church.

Maybe you should. It is the true Church of Christ!

 

[vnct0000]

Maybe you should. It is the true Church of Christ!

i believe that the true Church fell apostate when it removed dozens of apocalyptic and historical texts from the earliest New Testament canons.

 

[Goatee]

i believe that the true Church fell apostate when it removed dozens of apocalyptic and historical texts from the earliest New Testament canons.

Where did you get that from? Which texts? If it were not for the CC we would not have a Bible!

 

[crossnote]

i may build a new religion.

it would be a merger of all of the primary world religions. i believe that the current world religions have fallen apostate.

the Catholic Church had truncated the texts of the early church.

I don't think that would be a new religion as there already are movements attempting to merge all religions into one...headed up by apostate protestant and catholic groups.
It would be better to get back to Scriptures...you know, those writings written by the Jews of old and inspired by the Holy Spirit.

 

[vnct0000]

Where did you get that from? Which texts? If it were not for the CC we would not have a Bible!

i find it difficult to have a discussion with someone who assumes that i'm ignorant or have failed to do research simply because i hold an alternate view. i did not come here for debate.

the second volume of the text which i've published contains the ancient texts which the CC had removed from the earliest canons of the early Church:

ANCIENT APOCRYPHA
(MODERN ENGLISH)
VOLUME TWO
NEW TESTAMENT

________________

I. APOCRYPHAL GOSPELS

1.01 THE PROTEVANGELIUM OF JAMES
1.02 THE GOSPEL OF PSEUDO-MATTHEW
1.03 THE GOSPEL OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY
1.04 THE HISTORY OF JOSEPH THE CARPENTER
1.05 THE (INFANCY) GOSPEL OF THOMAS FIRST GREEK FORM
1.06 THE ARABIC GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF THE SAVIOUR
1.07 THE DIALOGUE OF THE SAVIOR
1.08 THE BOOK OF THOMAS THE CONTENDER
1.09 THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS
1.10 THE GOSPEL (QUESTIONS) OF BARTHOLOMEW
1.11 THE GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE
1.12 THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS
1.13 THE GOSPEL OF PETER
THE GOSPEL OF NICODEMUS
1.14 PART I.– THE ACTS OF PILATE FIRST GREEK FORM
1.15 PART II.—THE DESCENT OF CHRIST INTO HELL GREEK FORM
1.16 THE LETTER OF PONTIUS PILATE
1.17 THE REPORT OF PILATE THE PROCURATOR FIRST GREEK FORM
1.18 THE GIVING UP OF PONTIUS PILATE
1.19 THE DEATH OF PILATE
1.20 THE NARRATIVE OF JOSEPH
1.21 THE AVENGING OF THE SAVIOUR
1.22 THE WISDOM OF JESUS CHRIST
1.23 THE APOCRYPHON OF JAMES
1.24 THE BOOK OF JOHN CONCERNING THE FALLING ASLEEP OF MARY
1.25 THE PASSING OF MARY FIRST LATIN FORM

________________

II. APOCRYPHAL ACTS

2.26 THE ACTS OF PETER AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES
2.27 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL
2.28 THE STORY OF PERPETUA
2.29 ACTS OF PAUL AND THECLA
2.30 THE ACTS OF BARNABAS
2.31 THE ACTS OF PHILIP
2.32 OF THE JOURNEYINGS OF PHILIP THE APOSTLE
2.33 ACTS OF SAINT PHILIP THE APOSTLE WHEN HE WENT TO UPPER HELLAS
2.34 ADDITION TO ACTS OF PHILIP
2.35 ACTS AND MARTYRDOM OF THE HOLY APOSTLE ANDREW
2.36 ACTS OF ANDREW AND MATTHIAS
2.37 ACTS OF PETER AND ANDREW
2.38 ACTS AND MARTYRDOM OF ST. MATTHEW THE APOSTLE
2.39 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE THOMAS
2.40 CONSUMMATION OF THOMAS THE APOSTLE
2.41 MARTYRDOM OF THE HOLY AND GLORIOUS APOSTLE BARTHOLOMEW
2.42 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE THADDÆUS
2.43 ACTS OF JOHN
2.44 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE AND EVANGELIST JOHN THE THEOLOGIAN
2.45 THE ACTS OF XANTHIPPE AND POLYXENA

________________

III. APOCRYPHAL EPISTLES

3.46 THE NICENE CREED
3.47 THE DIDACHE
3.48 THE TEACHING OF THE APOSTLES
3.49 THE EPISTLE OF THE APOSTLES
3.50 THE TEACHING OF SIMON CEPHAS IN THE CITY OF ROME
3.51 THE EPISTLE OF PETER TO JAMES
3.52 THE EPISTLE OF PETER TO PHILIP
3.53 THE EPISTLE OF CLEMENT TO JAMES
3.54 THE FIRST EPISTLE OF THE BLESSED CLEMENT, THE DISCIPLE OF PETER THE APOSTLE
3.55 THE SECOND EPISTLE OF THE SAME CLEMENT
3.56 THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP
3.57 THE TEACHING OF ADAEUS THE APOSTLE
3.58 THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
3.59 THE EPISTLE OF MATHETES TO DIOGNETUS
3.60 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE EPHESIANS
3.61 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE MAGNESIANS
3.62 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE TRALLIANS
3.63 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE ROMANS
3.64 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE PHILADELPHIANS
3.65 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE SMYRNÆANS
3.66 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO POLYCARP

________________

IV. APOCRYPHAL APOCALYPSES

4.67 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK ONE
4.68 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK TWO
4.69 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK THREE
4.70 THE APOCALYPSE OF PETER (1)
4.71 THE APOCALYPSE OF PETER (2)
4.72 THE VISION OF PAUL
4.73 THE REVELATION OF PAUL
4.74 THE APOCALYPSE OF PAUL
4.75 THE FIRST APOCALYPSE OF JAMES
4.76 THE SECOND APOCALYPSE OF JAMES
4.77 THE REVELATION OF JOHN
4.78 THE BOOK OF JOHN THE EVANGELIST
4.79 THE APOCALYPSE OF THOMAS
4.80 THE APOCALYPSE OF STEPHEN
4.81 THE APOCALYPSE OF THE VIRGIN
4.82 THE NARRATIVE OF ZOSIMUS

 

[vnct0000]

I don't think that would be a new religion as there already are movements attempting to merge all religions into one...headed up by apostate protestant and catholic groups.

the difficulty with these existing movements (such as Ba-Hai for example) is that they are founded upon the teachings of some new modern-day prophet instead of being founded upon the original ancient texts of the ancient world religions.

i further believe that the catholic/protestant church is apostate as a whole, since its canon does not match that of the early church canons, having removed 50% of the original bible texts.

It would be better to get back to Scriptures...you know, those writings written by the Jews of old and inspired by the Holy Spirit.

50% of these texts were removed from the catholic/protestant church canon.

 

[Goatee]

i find it difficult to have a discussion with someone who assumes that i'm ignorant or have failed to do research simply because i hold an alternate view. i did not come here for debate.

the second volume of the text which i've published contains the ancient texts which the CC had removed from the earliest canons of the early Church:

ANCIENT APOCRYPHA
(MODERN ENGLISH)
VOLUME TWO
NEW TESTAMENT

________________

I. APOCRYPHAL GOSPELS

1.01 THE PROTEVANGELIUM OF JAMES
1.02 THE GOSPEL OF PSEUDO-MATTHEW
1.03 THE GOSPEL OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY
1.04 THE HISTORY OF JOSEPH THE CARPENTER
1.05 THE (INFANCY) GOSPEL OF THOMAS FIRST GREEK FORM
1.06 THE ARABIC GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF THE SAVIOUR
1.07 THE DIALOGUE OF THE SAVIOR
1.08 THE BOOK OF THOMAS THE CONTENDER
1.09 THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS
1.10 THE GOSPEL (QUESTIONS) OF BARTHOLOMEW
1.11 THE GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE
1.12 THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS
1.13 THE GOSPEL OF PETER
THE GOSPEL OF NICODEMUS
1.14 PART I.– THE ACTS OF PILATE FIRST GREEK FORM
1.15 PART II.—THE DESCENT OF CHRIST INTO HELL GREEK FORM
1.16 THE LETTER OF PONTIUS PILATE
1.17 THE REPORT OF PILATE THE PROCURATOR FIRST GREEK FORM
1.18 THE GIVING UP OF PONTIUS PILATE
1.19 THE DEATH OF PILATE
1.20 THE NARRATIVE OF JOSEPH
1.21 THE AVENGING OF THE SAVIOUR
1.22 THE WISDOM OF JESUS CHRIST
1.23 THE APOCRYPHON OF JAMES
1.24 THE BOOK OF JOHN CONCERNING THE FALLING ASLEEP OF MARY
1.25 THE PASSING OF MARY FIRST LATIN FORM

________________

II. APOCRYPHAL ACTS

2.26 THE ACTS OF PETER AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES
2.27 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLES PETER AND PAUL
2.28 THE STORY OF PERPETUA
2.29 ACTS OF PAUL AND THECLA
2.30 THE ACTS OF BARNABAS
2.31 THE ACTS OF PHILIP
2.32 OF THE JOURNEYINGS OF PHILIP THE APOSTLE
2.33 ACTS OF SAINT PHILIP THE APOSTLE WHEN HE WENT TO UPPER HELLAS
2.34 ADDITION TO ACTS OF PHILIP
2.35 ACTS AND MARTYRDOM OF THE HOLY APOSTLE ANDREW
2.36 ACTS OF ANDREW AND MATTHIAS
2.37 ACTS OF PETER AND ANDREW
2.38 ACTS AND MARTYRDOM OF ST. MATTHEW THE APOSTLE
2.39 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE THOMAS
2.40 CONSUMMATION OF THOMAS THE APOSTLE
2.41 MARTYRDOM OF THE HOLY AND GLORIOUS APOSTLE BARTHOLOMEW
2.42 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE THADDÆUS
2.43 ACTS OF JOHN
2.44 ACTS OF THE HOLY APOSTLE AND EVANGELIST JOHN THE THEOLOGIAN
2.45 THE ACTS OF XANTHIPPE AND POLYXENA

________________

III. APOCRYPHAL EPISTLES

3.46 THE NICENE CREED
3.47 THE DIDACHE
3.48 THE TEACHING OF THE APOSTLES
3.49 THE EPISTLE OF THE APOSTLES
3.50 THE TEACHING OF SIMON CEPHAS IN THE CITY OF ROME
3.51 THE EPISTLE OF PETER TO JAMES
3.52 THE EPISTLE OF PETER TO PHILIP
3.53 THE EPISTLE OF CLEMENT TO JAMES
3.54 THE FIRST EPISTLE OF THE BLESSED CLEMENT, THE DISCIPLE OF PETER THE APOSTLE
3.55 THE SECOND EPISTLE OF THE SAME CLEMENT
3.56 THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP
3.57 THE TEACHING OF ADAEUS THE APOSTLE
3.58 THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
3.59 THE EPISTLE OF MATHETES TO DIOGNETUS
3.60 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE EPHESIANS
3.61 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE MAGNESIANS
3.62 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE TRALLIANS
3.63 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE ROMANS
3.64 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE PHILADELPHIANS
3.65 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE SMYRNÆANS
3.66 THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO POLYCARP

________________

IV. APOCRYPHAL APOCALYPSES

4.67 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK ONE
4.68 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK TWO
4.69 THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS BOOK THREE
4.70 THE APOCALYPSE OF PETER (1)
4.71 THE APOCALYPSE OF PETER (2)
4.72 THE VISION OF PAUL
4.73 THE REVELATION OF PAUL
4.74 THE APOCALYPSE OF PAUL
4.75 THE FIRST APOCALYPSE OF JAMES
4.76 THE SECOND APOCALYPSE OF JAMES
4.77 THE REVELATION OF JOHN
4.78 THE BOOK OF JOHN THE EVANGELIST
4.79 THE APOCALYPSE OF THOMAS
4.80 THE APOCALYPSE OF STEPHEN
4.81 THE APOCALYPSE OF THE VIRGIN
4.82 THE NARRATIVE OF ZOSIMUS

Oh yea, sorry, those ones!

 

[Tigger45]

the difficulty with these existing movements (such as Ba-Hai for example) is that they are founded upon the teachings of some new modern-day prophet instead of being founded upon the original ancient texts of the ancient world religions.

i further believe that the catholic/protestant church is apostate as a whole, since its canon does not match that of the early church canons, having removed 50% of the original bible texts.


50% of these texts were removed from the catholic/protestant church canon.

But your thread headliner suggests you didn't understand the pastor's intent when its now very obvious you weren't anywhere close to being in agreement with probably any of those four churches that denied you membership. I think you've been misleading from the get go of this thread.