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And your evidence for this...?Not sure what you are asking. The climate changed after the flood and all the left over water in the northern extremities froze creating glaciers and land bridges. (Ice Age)
Prior to the flood there were no ice ages, hence no ice.
Evidence and proof are two different things. Do you understand that?Apparently there's no evidence (or need) for scientific theories either for "science never proves anything" .
Just throw something out there and see if it sticks. Anything. Because proof isn't required.
Remind us again of how many times you have been told that the rate of ice and snow build up at the location of the Lost Squadron is a couple of orders of magnitude faster and more variable than the ice build up in the interior of Greenland where the annual layers are measured?Remind us again how many tens of thousands of years (by representation) of ice and snow covered the lost squadron?
Was it something like 253 feet down?
And yet the moon never crashed into the earth as you claimed, did it?False! If the moon was created by pixie dust coming together as a moon then the moon started on earth! If we want to be technical with the fable, the moon actually formed higher up, but it's origin was right here ON earth from the phoney little magic planet smash up!
I'm sure the lurkers here know very well who the fraud is.Wake up, lurkers, so called science is a fraud.
The RATE Project, an attempt by YECs to falsify radioactive decay rates, admitted that there is evidence for AT LEAST 500 million years of consistent radioactive decay. This is what they found and they were TRYING to disprove radioactive decay.No, name one such experiment. Looking at decay merely shows decay goes on! How long this holds true is not a matter of experiment, but assumption that all the forces and laws that cause decay used to exist also!
OK, that is why I posted it after all.Let's look at your link
So your objection to this experiment is that the scientists didn't go to a galaxy 7 BILLION light years away and take the measurements directly?"Here we set a limit on a possible cosmological variation of the proton-to-electron mass ratio μ by comparing transitions in methanol observed in the early universe with those measured in the laboratory. From radio-astronomical observations of PKS1830-211, we deduced a constraint of ∆μ/μ = (0.0 ± 1.0) × 10−7 at redshift z = 0.89, corresponding to a look-back time of 7 billion years. This is consistent with a null result."
The experiment was here. In a lab. The silly assumptions of time in the far universe and distance and 'early' universe are bad religion.
Sorry, you are wrong, and therefore according to your claim, a liar as well.No, when a lie is echoed and repeated from the heart, even if people are not fully aware it is a lie, it still is.
Nice rant. Are you done?People coulld know better if they believed God, so what excuse is there?
OWG mostly is trying to do science loosely using the bible as a guide. I don't have big issues with him on bible details, just how he assumes science relates to it. Aman has nothing to do with the bible, except trying to use it as a launching pad to promote his cult ideas such as modern man came through bestiality with ancient beings with no intellect, more like apes it seems. Then there is the stuff about Noah bring people to this planet and the little world under the lake etc etc. He may appear to some on a forum to be quasi bible savvy, but not to sane informed believers.
Since science is not based on God's truth or reality of the universe or past, one MUST step out from just what is in the Bible in black and white, to be able to address the issues they raise! Naturally, bible believers, in trying to do that will do it in different ways. I allow for that, and indulge in that also of course. What I will not allow is wild eyed insane claims that are not really an honest look at what the Actual Scriptures teach.
Of course not. Nor did it start as imaginary crash up dust from earth as science claims! Regardless of that, they extrapolate it's movements backward, till it starts off FROM earth as supposed dust. I think they had to claim another moon also existed from that crash, because they need one to explain some things we see now!!And yet the moon never crashed into the earth as you claimed, did it?
The RATE Project, an attempt by YECs to falsify radioactive decay rates, admitted that there is evidence for AT LEAST 500 million years of consistent radioactive decay. This is what they found and they were TRYING to disprove radioactive decay.
So your objection to this experiment is that the scientists didn't go to a galaxy 7 BILLION light years away and take the measurements directly?
Science has no such experiment for ANY state past. One must look elsewhere.And you can't even provide a single testable experiment for a different state past?
God disagrees. he told us some thing about the past and future. Your made up nonsense does not resemble it in the slightest.Sorry, you are wrong, and therefore according to your claim, a liar as well.
Nice rant. Are you done?
Good. Provide an experiment that will support or falsify your "different state past" hypothesis.
That might be interesting, to see an ice core from that area. A core, say 1000 feet deep. We could look at how many layers represented about 4 times the depth of a known event in time!Remind us again how many tens of thousands of years (by representation) of ice and snow covered the lost squadron?
Was it something like 253 feet down?
Kent Hovind has a friend that did just that.That might be interesting, to see an ice core from that area. A core, say 1000 feet deep. We could look at how many layers represented about 4 times the depth of a known event in time!
Yes, I've heard of GAP theory.
Are you sure you're not thinking "God of the Gaps"?
I've never heard anyone proclaim that at some point in the "gap" between Gen 1:1 and Gen. 1:2 there was cataclysm that destroyed some planet.
That's what GAP theory is, the ruin/restoration of the original creation.
QVKent Hovind has a friend that did just that.
It comes out to some hundreds of years ago that the squadron was lost.
When I ran that past RickG, who used to post here, he justified it by saying that scientists don't take ice core samples from the edges of glaciers (where the squadron was found) because ice cores are laid down frequently around the edges and will give a false reading.
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Are you sure you're not thinking "God of the Gaps"?
That's what GAP theory is, the ruin/restoration of the original creation.
Not in the Biblical story it didn't.
Sure thing.You first. Show us how they measured alternations in oxygen isotopes in the ice that covered the planes, and how they determined if it was ice that formed in place or was transported by moving glaciers.
Remind us again where I say science runs on the No True Scotsman Principle?Remind us again of how many times you have been told that the rate of ice and snow build up at the location of the Lost Squadron is a couple of orders of magnitude faster and more variable than the ice build up in the interior of Greenland where the annual layers are measured?
I have no doubt you guys have it justified with some fancy algorithm.And there's another time he has been told.
In my bible it did. These verses show a progression of the extent and depth of the flood. It took forty days for the water to reach and float the ark. The waters increased steadily over 150 days to cover the mountains.
17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
[serious];65554447 said:Not seeing 150 days there. Let's take a bit more:
17For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. 19They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.a b   21Every living thing that moved on land perishedbirds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
24The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
That would be 40 days to flood, then the waters keeping it flooded for 150 days.
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