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CallingInTheDesert
Fully Born Again - Living In Pure Love
Job 27:1 - And Job continued his discourse: NIV
Job 27:1 - Moreover Job continued his discourse, and said: NKJV
Job 27:1 - Job continued speaking: New Living Translation
Job 27:1 - And Job again took up his parable, and said, ASV
This is saying that Job is speaking about his situation or story. This does not indicate that the book of Job is a parable. It is just saying that the book of Job has a story or parable within the book of Job.
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Ask yourself this: Why have the newer versions of scripture replaced the word parable?
Its written:
Deut. 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
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CallingInTheDesert
Fully Born Again - Living In Pure Love
I agree with you - some of the newer versions of the bible have made things more gray and less clear. The newer versons have lost some of God's Truth because of this.
But on this "parable", I see this "parable" as a "story". In this passage of Job, Job is just telling a story, but it doesn't make the book of Job a made up or pretend story. The book of Job is not a made up story like the parables that Jesus told to teach people.
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Norah63 the mark of the beast is not prophesy. We are making the decision you speak of right now, its not something that will happen in the further.
Its important that we distinguish between the things that are bringing tribulation to the earth and prophesy, the things which must shortly come to pass.
Our serving the beast is bringing great tribulation to the earth. The judgement of the great harlot: This is prophesy which must shortly come to pass. If most of us were not serving the beast the harlot could not exist.
If we have overcome the world we have avoided the mark.
1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
The scripture says: All that dwell upon the earth shall worship the beast, and he have been given power to overcome the saints.
The power the beast has over the saints is most of us dont know who or what he is are therefore we are serving him without knowing it.
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Job is a picture of something to us as Jesus was the picture of the lamb of Passover, and there is a lamb for every house, just as much as their is a beast that is this to us.
The book of Job can be seen from myriads of ways, as He opens the truth of His Word to us.
The word only has the measure we confine it to with our soul.
The book of Job can be seen from myriads of ways, as He opens the truth of His Word to us.
The word only has the measure we confine it to with our soul.
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If the book of Job is not a parable then youll have to be comfortable with the idea of God wagering with Satan.
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Job 1:7-8
A conversation between God and Satan defies the truth.
Deut. 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
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CallingInTheDesert
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It was not wagering with Satan when God knows what the results will be.
God lets the devil do his evil work to allow for God's glory and plan to be fulfilled.
God is not evil at all, but God's plan does require the evil and the tempting of the devil to be done to have God's plan work. God uses the tempting and the evil of the devil to test and purify His saints.
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rgleason
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The New Covenant Written in Blood.
Many Bible believing Christian Churches still teach the Ten Commandments mixed in with the death of Jesus Christ as Savior. The Ten Commandments were part of the Mosaic Law. The problem with that is if you mix the Law with grace, you are being robbed of the power of the blood of Christ. If you try to keep the Ten Commandments in your own strength then you are robbing the Holy Spirit of His work in you. By keeping the Ten Commandments in your own strength, that is self righteousness. And God says that all our self rightousness is like fithy rags in His sight.
Isiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
If the Old Covenenant worked, we would not need a Savior!
Galatians 2:21
"I do not negate the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"
With Jesus' birth, life, death, and resurrection the Old Covenant was fulfilled and a New Covenant was ushered in.
Heb. 8:6-8 NLT
“But our High Priest [Jesus Christ] has been given a ministry that is far superior to the ministry of those who serve under the old Laws, for He is the one who guarantees for us a better Covenant with God, based on better promises. For if the first Covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a second Covenant to replace it. “The day will come, says the Lord, when I will make a New Covenant with the people of Israel and Judah…”
Gen. 3:15. (NAS)
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise Him on the heel.”
Jesus accomplished in the New Covenant what the Old Covenant was not adequate to do, that is to defeat sin. The Old Covenant only proved that sin was more powerful than the Law. The Law in the old covenant said, “Thou shalt not...” but mankind could not resist temptation and the power of sin. Thus, Israel ultimately broke the covenant. Sin overpowered mankind, but Jesus overpowered sin. Israel was enslaved to sin, just as they had been enslaved to Egypt hundreds of years earlier. Moses, who was given the Old Covenant written on stone , was the savior for Israel from captivity in Egypt; now Jesus, who is mediator of the New Covenant written in His own blood, is the Savour for Israel, and all people, from captivity to sin.
The Law's purpose was to teach what sin is. Jesus' purpose is to defeat sin.
Just prior to Moses receiving the two tablets containing the Ten Commandments, Moses had written down everything God had told him in a book called the Book of the Covenant. He read it to the people of Israel who whole-heartedly agreed to obey. To confirm the covenant, a sacrifice was made and the blood of bulls was sprinkled on the altar and the people.
Exodus 24:8.
"So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, "Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words"."
When Jesus instituted the New Covenant, he was in an upper room with His twelve disciples sharing the passover meal just before His crucifixion. He took the cup of wine and said,
Luke 24:20
“This cup is the New Covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.” (Luke 24:20).
The New Covenant was also sealed with the blood of a sacrifice. Jesus was the Lamb slain, and His blood was poured out for the sins of all mankind. This was the end of the Old Covenant and the beginning of a new one.The Ten Commandments were part of the old covenant. Jesus was not in conflict with the Old Covenant as the priests, scribes and pharasees of the day suggested. He was in conflict with what they had added to it. Jesus did not come to bash the law and prophets of the Old Testament, Jesus Himself stated that He did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them.
Matt. 5:17.
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."
Jesus fulfilled the law. He did not destroy it. Through His fulfillment we find salvation from our sins in Him alone. He fulfilled the Old Covenant and its Laws when He lived a sinless life, became the sacrifice for our sins, was raised from the dead defeating sin and death. He became our High Priest, our sacrifice, our temple. To be in right standing with God no longer requires the Old Covenant way of life. When Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant, He himself became the New Covenant. Right standing with God comes through Jesus Christ alone. The law made us slaves to sin. Christ came to set us free from this slavery. His power over sin and our welcome into His kingdom is what we call GRACE.
Rom. 10:1-4
“Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is that the Jewish people might be saved. I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Instead, they are clinging to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. They won’t go along with God’s way. For Christ has accomplished the whole purpose of the law. All who believe in him are made right with God.”
At the moment of Jesus' death on the cross, Matthew 27:51 states that the veil, separating the entrance to the holy of holies, of the Temple was ripped from top to bottom, symbolizing that with Jesus death there was no longer a need for the temple. Jesus Himself became the new temple. It was no longer necessary for the high priest to enter into the holy place, meet with God at the mercy seat and ark of the covenant, and intercede to God for the sins of the people. Jesus fulfilled the purpose of the temple, and became the new door through which to come to God. People no longer had to come to the temple and offer sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins. Now they would come to the new Temple, Christ Himself, for the forgiveness of sins. Shortly after Jesus' ascension into heaven He sent the Holy Spirit to indwell all who would trust in Him.
I Corinthians 6:19-20
"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God,and you re not your own? For you were bought at a price , therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's".
The Ten Commandments were Laws of great moral value and significance. They provided guidance for right living toward God and toward one another. They provided an excellent foundation for moral civilization. The Ten Commandments place in an era of grace through the New Covenant is in our hearts so that we now more than fulfill the Mosic Law, through Christ in us.
Jeremiah 31:31-34
“The day will come,” says the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. This covenant will not be like the one I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt. They broke that covenant, though I loved them as a husband loves his wife,” says the Lord.
Hebrews 8:8-13
“But this is the New Covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their family, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will already know me,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness and will never again remember their sins.”
The Law that was once external, written on two stone tablets and placed in the ark of the covenant for the people of God (Israel) is now transferred into the hearts of all who know Jesus Christ and have become partakers in the New Covenant in His blood. The Ten Commandments moved from a position of external to internal. Ezekiel also talks about the change of heart that would take place with the coming of the New Covenant:
Ezekiel 36:25-27
“I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.”
This is what the Law and the New Covenant look like; the law would be put into the minds and hearts of His people. With the New Covenant also came the promise of the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit in the hearts of those who receive Jesus Christ. It is the Holy Spirit that guides us in following God's decrees and gives us the power to keep His laws.
A believer then, through Christ, has a new relationship to the Law. The old relationship was slavery. The Law brought condemnation. It declared people guilty. It proved the power of sin dominating the heart and body. A believer's new relationship with the Law is that of freedom and victory. It is freedom from the master of sin. Christ has set the believer free from the power of sin and the condemnation of the Law. Now we are free to obey the law in a new way, through the power of the Holy Spirit that indwells us. We are not saved or justified before God by trying to keep the Law. We are saved and justified through Jesus Christ and as Christ was victorious over the power of sin, so we too can walk in this victory by the power of His Holy Spirit which He has given us.
Rom. 8:1-2 (NLT)
"So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death."
A believer's mission is not to obey the Ten Commandments, which proved inadequate, as was its purpose. A believer's mission is to obey the Holy Spirit. For obedience is greater than sacrifice.
1 Samuel 15:22
"Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams."
Ezekiel 36:27
"I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances."
For example, lets look at Matthew 5:21-22:
“You have heard that the law of Moses says, ‘Do not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.’ But I say, if you are angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the high council. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of @#!*% .”
Jesus was explaining what the Law in the New Covenant would look like. Remember, the Law went from being external to internal. In other words, the Law of Moses forbade you from murdering someone. This same law internalized not only forbids the physical act of murder, but also forbids you from hating someone. According to the Old Covenant, you were not guilty if you hated someone, but if you murdered them, the law declared you guilty. In the new covenant of Jesus Christ this law declares a person guilty who hates someone in their heart.
I John 4:20-21
“If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.”
Jesus explained clearly that all the Old Covenant laws and prophets hang on two basic commandments: Love God and Love one another (Matt. 22:34-40). When the Old Covenant Law comes through the cross it is placed into the hearts of God's people and the overriding commands are loving God and one another. As partakers in the New Covenant, it is in keeping these two commands that we fulfill the law and establish our ethics and lifestyles as followers of Jesus Christ.
Romans 13:8-10
“...for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law.”
In John 13:34-35
“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”
The work of the cross then, planted into the hearts of His people, is rooted in the love of God and we truly become a new creation in Christ Jesus by the Holy Spirit at work in us.
2 Cointhians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature (or creation): old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
The Mosaic Law now is only for the unGodly.
I Timothy 1:8-11
"But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust."
Our instructions in New Covenant grace is;
2 Peter 3:17-17
"Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever." Amen.
Many Bible believing Christian Churches still teach the Ten Commandments mixed in with the death of Jesus Christ as Savior. The Ten Commandments were part of the Mosaic Law. The problem with that is if you mix the Law with grace, you are being robbed of the power of the blood of Christ. If you try to keep the Ten Commandments in your own strength then you are robbing the Holy Spirit of His work in you. By keeping the Ten Commandments in your own strength, that is self righteousness. And God says that all our self rightousness is like fithy rags in His sight.
Isiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
If the Old Covenenant worked, we would not need a Savior!
Galatians 2:21
"I do not negate the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing!"
With Jesus' birth, life, death, and resurrection the Old Covenant was fulfilled and a New Covenant was ushered in.
Heb. 8:6-8 NLT
“But our High Priest [Jesus Christ] has been given a ministry that is far superior to the ministry of those who serve under the old Laws, for He is the one who guarantees for us a better Covenant with God, based on better promises. For if the first Covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a second Covenant to replace it. “The day will come, says the Lord, when I will make a New Covenant with the people of Israel and Judah…”
Gen. 3:15. (NAS)
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise Him on the heel.”
Jesus accomplished in the New Covenant what the Old Covenant was not adequate to do, that is to defeat sin. The Old Covenant only proved that sin was more powerful than the Law. The Law in the old covenant said, “Thou shalt not...” but mankind could not resist temptation and the power of sin. Thus, Israel ultimately broke the covenant. Sin overpowered mankind, but Jesus overpowered sin. Israel was enslaved to sin, just as they had been enslaved to Egypt hundreds of years earlier. Moses, who was given the Old Covenant written on stone , was the savior for Israel from captivity in Egypt; now Jesus, who is mediator of the New Covenant written in His own blood, is the Savour for Israel, and all people, from captivity to sin.
The Law's purpose was to teach what sin is. Jesus' purpose is to defeat sin.
Just prior to Moses receiving the two tablets containing the Ten Commandments, Moses had written down everything God had told him in a book called the Book of the Covenant. He read it to the people of Israel who whole-heartedly agreed to obey. To confirm the covenant, a sacrifice was made and the blood of bulls was sprinkled on the altar and the people.
Exodus 24:8.
"So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, "Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words"."
When Jesus instituted the New Covenant, he was in an upper room with His twelve disciples sharing the passover meal just before His crucifixion. He took the cup of wine and said,
Luke 24:20
“This cup is the New Covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.” (Luke 24:20).
The New Covenant was also sealed with the blood of a sacrifice. Jesus was the Lamb slain, and His blood was poured out for the sins of all mankind. This was the end of the Old Covenant and the beginning of a new one.The Ten Commandments were part of the old covenant. Jesus was not in conflict with the Old Covenant as the priests, scribes and pharasees of the day suggested. He was in conflict with what they had added to it. Jesus did not come to bash the law and prophets of the Old Testament, Jesus Himself stated that He did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them.
Matt. 5:17.
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."
Jesus fulfilled the law. He did not destroy it. Through His fulfillment we find salvation from our sins in Him alone. He fulfilled the Old Covenant and its Laws when He lived a sinless life, became the sacrifice for our sins, was raised from the dead defeating sin and death. He became our High Priest, our sacrifice, our temple. To be in right standing with God no longer requires the Old Covenant way of life. When Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant, He himself became the New Covenant. Right standing with God comes through Jesus Christ alone. The law made us slaves to sin. Christ came to set us free from this slavery. His power over sin and our welcome into His kingdom is what we call GRACE.
Rom. 10:1-4
“Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is that the Jewish people might be saved. I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Instead, they are clinging to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. They won’t go along with God’s way. For Christ has accomplished the whole purpose of the law. All who believe in him are made right with God.”
At the moment of Jesus' death on the cross, Matthew 27:51 states that the veil, separating the entrance to the holy of holies, of the Temple was ripped from top to bottom, symbolizing that with Jesus death there was no longer a need for the temple. Jesus Himself became the new temple. It was no longer necessary for the high priest to enter into the holy place, meet with God at the mercy seat and ark of the covenant, and intercede to God for the sins of the people. Jesus fulfilled the purpose of the temple, and became the new door through which to come to God. People no longer had to come to the temple and offer sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins. Now they would come to the new Temple, Christ Himself, for the forgiveness of sins. Shortly after Jesus' ascension into heaven He sent the Holy Spirit to indwell all who would trust in Him.
I Corinthians 6:19-20
"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God,and you re not your own? For you were bought at a price , therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's".
The Ten Commandments were Laws of great moral value and significance. They provided guidance for right living toward God and toward one another. They provided an excellent foundation for moral civilization. The Ten Commandments place in an era of grace through the New Covenant is in our hearts so that we now more than fulfill the Mosic Law, through Christ in us.
Jeremiah 31:31-34
“The day will come,” says the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. This covenant will not be like the one I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt. They broke that covenant, though I loved them as a husband loves his wife,” says the Lord.
Hebrews 8:8-13
“But this is the New Covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their family, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will already know me,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness and will never again remember their sins.”
The Law that was once external, written on two stone tablets and placed in the ark of the covenant for the people of God (Israel) is now transferred into the hearts of all who know Jesus Christ and have become partakers in the New Covenant in His blood. The Ten Commandments moved from a position of external to internal. Ezekiel also talks about the change of heart that would take place with the coming of the New Covenant:
Ezekiel 36:25-27
“I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.”
This is what the Law and the New Covenant look like; the law would be put into the minds and hearts of His people. With the New Covenant also came the promise of the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit in the hearts of those who receive Jesus Christ. It is the Holy Spirit that guides us in following God's decrees and gives us the power to keep His laws.
A believer then, through Christ, has a new relationship to the Law. The old relationship was slavery. The Law brought condemnation. It declared people guilty. It proved the power of sin dominating the heart and body. A believer's new relationship with the Law is that of freedom and victory. It is freedom from the master of sin. Christ has set the believer free from the power of sin and the condemnation of the Law. Now we are free to obey the law in a new way, through the power of the Holy Spirit that indwells us. We are not saved or justified before God by trying to keep the Law. We are saved and justified through Jesus Christ and as Christ was victorious over the power of sin, so we too can walk in this victory by the power of His Holy Spirit which He has given us.
Rom. 8:1-2 (NLT)
"So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death."
A believer's mission is not to obey the Ten Commandments, which proved inadequate, as was its purpose. A believer's mission is to obey the Holy Spirit. For obedience is greater than sacrifice.
1 Samuel 15:22
"Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams."
Ezekiel 36:27
"I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances."
For example, lets look at Matthew 5:21-22:
“You have heard that the law of Moses says, ‘Do not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.’ But I say, if you are angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the high council. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of @#!*% .”
Jesus was explaining what the Law in the New Covenant would look like. Remember, the Law went from being external to internal. In other words, the Law of Moses forbade you from murdering someone. This same law internalized not only forbids the physical act of murder, but also forbids you from hating someone. According to the Old Covenant, you were not guilty if you hated someone, but if you murdered them, the law declared you guilty. In the new covenant of Jesus Christ this law declares a person guilty who hates someone in their heart.
I John 4:20-21
“If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.”
Jesus explained clearly that all the Old Covenant laws and prophets hang on two basic commandments: Love God and Love one another (Matt. 22:34-40). When the Old Covenant Law comes through the cross it is placed into the hearts of God's people and the overriding commands are loving God and one another. As partakers in the New Covenant, it is in keeping these two commands that we fulfill the law and establish our ethics and lifestyles as followers of Jesus Christ.
Romans 13:8-10
“...for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law.”
In John 13:34-35
“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”
The work of the cross then, planted into the hearts of His people, is rooted in the love of God and we truly become a new creation in Christ Jesus by the Holy Spirit at work in us.
2 Cointhians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature (or creation): old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
The Mosaic Law now is only for the unGodly.
I Timothy 1:8-11
"But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust."
Our instructions in New Covenant grace is;
2 Peter 3:17-17
"Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever." Amen.
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CallingInTheDesert
Fully Born Again - Living In Pure Love
rgleason,
Thank you for the words of God and your words.
We surely do have the power within us now to do all the laws of God through the power of the Holy Spirit in us. It is the love of God in us that is now performing all the goodness of God and has freed us from all acts of sin.
Mike
Thank you for the words of God and your words.
We surely do have the power within us now to do all the laws of God through the power of the Holy Spirit in us. It is the love of God in us that is now performing all the goodness of God and has freed us from all acts of sin.
Mike
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Did you write all that out for us rgleason? That was a good post. I especially like the parts about the New Covenant being all about love and inner change, rather than the outward rituals of the OT. I also liked your quotes about being a liar if you say you love God but hate your brother.
That is the message of Jesus. Trying to follow the path of love in everything we do.
That is the message of Jesus. Trying to follow the path of love in everything we do.
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Oh yeah. I think that people usually focus on the "don't steal" and "don't murder", but I feel that the most significant area is the "don't covert" part, because like Paul writes to Timothy
and I think that selfishness and greed cause more hatred and theft than anything else. To really walk the path we have to make a conscious choice NOT to be covetous
and I think that selfishness and greed cause more hatred and theft than anything else. To really walk the path we have to make a conscious choice NOT to be covetous
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The message of Jesus Christ is much bigger than forgiveness of sins, but without this foundation of the truth of the Love of our Father laid in our life we cannot see the true message that he came to show us by himself being it.
We can not follow on to know him, or understand in truth how he comes to us, unless we understand the finished work that was before the wolrd was.
We can not follow on to know him, or understand in truth how he comes to us, unless we understand the finished work that was before the wolrd was.
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That is a compilation of years of study on the Gospel of Grace, that the Holy Spirit revealed to me years ago, and it is a copy and paste. I perused it before I posted it prayerfully as many are not mature enough in the Lord to have the "veil of Mosses" removed from them yet and I don't want to cause enmity in the body of Christ but I must be obedient to feed those who hunger and thirst after righteousness. I know what it feels like to go where you long to be fed living bread and drink, only to leave more hungry when you leave than you were when you got there.
I must confess that my early ministry was a mixture of Grace and the Mosaic law, because that was what I was fed in Bible College in a denomination I trusted in those days.
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I cannot forget when I first heard it said that there are no contradictions in the scriptures, and that any appearance of a contradiction is evidence of an imperfect understanding.
I needed to hear this at the time, because I was faced with what appeared to me to be a definite contradiction.
Throughout the scriptures we have been reminded that its not of works, but by faith that we are redeemed through grace.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Eph. 2:8-9
So when we are confronted with the Apostles James saying that faith without works is dead. At a first glance this appears to be a definite contradiction.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20
Jesus has promised us that the spirit will guide us into all truth. It will lead us to whatever is needed next for the growth of our understanding.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. John 16:13
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, for instruction in righteousness, and what appears as a contradiction is usually the spirit beckoning us on to seek a higher understanding.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim. 3:16
By saying faith without works is dead, the scripture is alerting us, that faith that is not put to work is dead.
Just like our muscles if we dont exercise them they become atrophied, and likewise if we dont exercise our faith its dead.
When Jesus said, take no thought of what shall we eat? or, what shall we drink? or, wherewithal shall we be clothed? (Matt. 6:31-33) He was teaching us to exercise our faith in our Fathers willingness to supply our need.
But most of us have placed our faith in our jobs, and our earthly securities and not in Him.
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Phil. 4:19
Faith in healing is also not exercised, like the non-believer most of us reach for an aleve whenever we are presented with the slightest ache.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 1 Pet. 2:24
We must exercise faithfulness in all things, and in the smallest things first. We cannot wait until medical science tells us, there is no cure for this, or when we find ourselves destitute, to exercise our faith in God.
If we do, well find ourselves wondering why He hasnt answered us, when in fact its our faith thats dead.
I needed to hear this at the time, because I was faced with what appeared to me to be a definite contradiction.
Throughout the scriptures we have been reminded that its not of works, but by faith that we are redeemed through grace.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Eph. 2:8-9
So when we are confronted with the Apostles James saying that faith without works is dead. At a first glance this appears to be a definite contradiction.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20
Jesus has promised us that the spirit will guide us into all truth. It will lead us to whatever is needed next for the growth of our understanding.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. John 16:13
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, for instruction in righteousness, and what appears as a contradiction is usually the spirit beckoning us on to seek a higher understanding.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim. 3:16
By saying faith without works is dead, the scripture is alerting us, that faith that is not put to work is dead.
Just like our muscles if we dont exercise them they become atrophied, and likewise if we dont exercise our faith its dead.
When Jesus said, take no thought of what shall we eat? or, what shall we drink? or, wherewithal shall we be clothed? (Matt. 6:31-33) He was teaching us to exercise our faith in our Fathers willingness to supply our need.
But most of us have placed our faith in our jobs, and our earthly securities and not in Him.
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Phil. 4:19
Faith in healing is also not exercised, like the non-believer most of us reach for an aleve whenever we are presented with the slightest ache.
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 1 Pet. 2:24
We must exercise faithfulness in all things, and in the smallest things first. We cannot wait until medical science tells us, there is no cure for this, or when we find ourselves destitute, to exercise our faith in God.
If we do, well find ourselves wondering why He hasnt answered us, when in fact its our faith thats dead.
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Recently I was watching the finale of Madmen on AMC where I heard the statement: “The only unpardonable sin is to believe God cannot forgive you.”
I’m frequently stunned by the fact that there can be a much clearer understanding of God in the secular world than in the church itself.
Most of us do not know God as love or forgiveness.
The scripture speaks again and again about those whose names are found in the Lamb’s book of life, and Jesus has warned, that few of us are going to find the way to life, but we totally ignore this.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matt. 7:13-14
Because most of us believe that salvation is having our sins forgiven, we continue to miss that the scripture is telling us that salvation is finding the way to life.
Adam’s transgression led to death, so our Saviour Jesus Christ came to show us the way to life.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Rev. 2:7
Some areas of the scripture demand our utmost attention, because failing to understand leads to such dire consequences.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 20:15
What Jesus is saying here, (Matt. 12:31-32) is absolutely crucial.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matt. 12:31-32
Jesus is telling us here that transgressions against the Father shall be forgiven and transgressions against the Son shall also be forgiven, but if we trespass against the Holy Ghost we shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Obviously Jesus is revealing here what leads to death, and it’s not transgressions against the Father or transgressions against the Son.
This leaves us with the glaring question how do we trespass against the Holy Ghost?
I’m frequently stunned by the fact that there can be a much clearer understanding of God in the secular world than in the church itself.
Most of us do not know God as love or forgiveness.
The scripture speaks again and again about those whose names are found in the Lamb’s book of life, and Jesus has warned, that few of us are going to find the way to life, but we totally ignore this.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matt. 7:13-14
Because most of us believe that salvation is having our sins forgiven, we continue to miss that the scripture is telling us that salvation is finding the way to life.
Adam’s transgression led to death, so our Saviour Jesus Christ came to show us the way to life.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Rev. 2:7
Some areas of the scripture demand our utmost attention, because failing to understand leads to such dire consequences.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 20:15
What Jesus is saying here, (Matt. 12:31-32) is absolutely crucial.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matt. 12:31-32
Jesus is telling us here that transgressions against the Father shall be forgiven and transgressions against the Son shall also be forgiven, but if we trespass against the Holy Ghost we shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Obviously Jesus is revealing here what leads to death, and it’s not transgressions against the Father or transgressions against the Son.
This leaves us with the glaring question how do we trespass against the Holy Ghost?
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