the Mandela Effect...

[HopeInJesusOnly]

I came to this site looking for fellow believers who are seeing the changes, and thankfully there are some here. I have no one but the Lord to talk with about these things in my daily life, and so I’m grateful to have found you all.

You can talk to me anytime. No judgement here, my friend.

 

[Howard1955]

You can talk to me anytime. No judgement here, my friend.

Thank you.

 

[Dave G.]

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I’ve come across that article a couple of times. It has some valid points - we do have faulty memories from time to time, especially as we get older. But the article, like so very many others, is completely dismissive of the experience of the Affected.

I've had some profound experiences in my life, usually to do with creation. But I don't put a lot of stock in experiences as truth bearers. Often we don't know the true source behind them and sometimes not the purpose of having them in the first place. I fully believe people are experiencing something but again perception is key. For me most of the things people mention as having changed I have a different view of to begin with or just plain am not familiar with them. The only thing remotely close to you guys experience is back around 1960ish I built a model of a Chevy military truck. Today there seems to be no record of that model ever having been produced, over in the military modellers forum on another site, nobody recalls it and they are all at least my age. They all site this other truck as having to been it. But no, in my mind it was not that truck they mention. I even remember the box art. But ya know, it gets to making me question my own memory, is it accurate or did that kit actually never exist ?

Pastor Dr. Chuck Missler ( now passed on) used to preach on how this life is actually an allusion. Makes ya wonder. Because sometimes our very reality seems to form out of our own thought patterns. Experiences seem to form according to that reality, and you wonder if it's real at all at times. The deeper you get into truth ( God/scripture/the things of God) the more stability there seems to be. Between one form of reality ( living the worldly life vs solidly in God) the more a void seems to exist where strange phenomenon can occur. It to me is as if the world and it's spiritual realm doesn't want to let us go towards the truth.

At this point I've probably said both way more than anyone wants to hear or will read from someone just passing through this world and who really knows nothing at all about what is going on, be that in our minds or allusion.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

for comparison/ exposure of the topic of the thread:

Philip went to the desert and explained Scripture to a eunich from Ethiopia in a chariot.
THen , Philip shortly was somewhere else.... (not by human means)

HEY, m effect?!

no.

Yahweh's Doing.

Changes ?

Yep.

Caused by m effect ?

Nope.

Spiritual forces in high places (and even in low places).

 

[Press On]

Humans will mess up anything they get their hands on. Sometimes inadvertently but usually for power, money or control over others. Count on it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Human's will mess up anything they get their hands on. Count on it.

Everything, in most ways, that humans today get their hands on is already messed up terribly - all thru society. And most religion.

ONly what is protected by the Father , 'sanctified'? , 'set apart', is right and good and true and holy.

Everything 'of the world' is passing away.... in sin.

 

[HopeInJesusOnly]

This thread has lost the plot.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

This thread has lost the plot.

The plot is deserving a headstone .... eh?

 

[Dave G.]

This thread has lost the plot.

Maybe you just want to bath in what you've seen... A suggestion might be to not magnify such things.

As to me, I seek to know the Lord more and more. I know there are strange things in this world but they are unprofitable and dismissed. If we dwell there we may miss what God has to offer.

 

[HopeInJesusOnly]

The plot is deserving a headstone .... eh?

Only if you killed it. I said we took a turn.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Only if you killed it. I said we took a turn.

I didn't have to do anything to it.
THe topic was already six feet under from years ago. (dis-empowered, proven false)

 

[HopeInJesusOnly]

Maybe you just want to bath in what you've seen... A suggestion might be to not magnify such things.

As to me, I seek to know the Lord more and more. I know there are strange things in this world but they are unprofitable and dismissed. If we dwell there we may miss what God has to offer.

I didn't start this thread, and neither did you. Why not stay on topic? That's the least you can offer the OP.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I didn't start this thread, and neither did you. Why not stay on topic? That's the least you can offer the OP.

The topic was exposed as false (and worldly and unprofitable). That's the best and maybe the the most that can be offered by anyone.

 

[HopeInJesusOnly]

The topic was exposed as false (and worldly and unprofitable). That's the best and maybe the the most that can be offered by anyone.

You're a bully.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You're a bully.

Not at all. The motives and purposes of a bully are mean spirited and harmful.
I obey Yahweh in seeking and doing what is best for a person, as HE TELLS US TO DO,
directly in His Word.

Worse than either , worse the the obedient , and worse than the bullies, are those
who defend sin, who don't say what Yahweh says to say,
who avoid the truth, and who stumble over Jesus' Word. Jesus said "Blessed are you IF you do not find cause to stumble in ME" (IN JESUS).... but most people,according to all Scripture, reject Jesus... and reject His Word....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You're a bully.

If your family doctor practiced bleeding, cutting to draw blood , for a headache or arthritis or dizziness, would you prefer
NOT TO KNOW the truth ??
Would you prefer NOT TO BE INFORMED how harmful that is to you and others ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Maybe you just want to bath in what you've seen... A suggestion might be to not magnify such things.

As to me, I seek to know the Lord more and more. I know there are strange things in this world but they are unprofitable and dismissed. If we dwell there we may miss what God has to offer.

Yes, good.

The truth can set people free....

but not if they reject it, eh?

 

[Howard1955]

I've had some profound experiences in my life, usually to do with creation. But I don't put a lot of stock in experiences as truth bearers. Often we don't know the true source behind them and sometimes not the purpose of having them in the first place. I fully believe people are experiencing something but again perception is key. For me most of the things people mention as having changed I have a different view of to begin with or just plain am not familiar with them. The only thing remotely close to you guys experience is back around 1960ish I built a model of a Chevy military truck. Today there seems to be no record of that model ever having been produced, over in the military modellers forum on another site, nobody recalls it and they are all at least my age. They all site this other truck as having to been it. But no, in my mind it was not that truck they mention. I even remember the box art. But ya know, it gets to making me question my own memory, is it accurate or did that kit actually never exist ?

Pastor Dr. Chuck Missler ( now passed on) used to preach on how this life is actually an allusion. Makes ya wonder. Because sometimes our very reality seems to form out of our own thought patterns. Experiences seem to form according to that reality, and you wonder if it's real at all at times. The deeper you get into truth ( God/scripture/the things of God) the more stability there seems to be. Between one form of reality ( living the worldly life vs solidly in God) the more a void seems to exist where strange phenomenon can occur. It to me is as if the world and it's spiritual realm doesn't want to let us go towards the truth.

At this point I've probably said both way more than anyone wants to hear or will read from someone just passing through this world and who really knows nothing at all about what is going on, be that in our minds or allusion.

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I enjoyed Chuck Missler’s approach to studying the Bible. Very methodical.

Your account of the truck is interesting. Before the QE/ME became known and talked about, what you’re describing would simply be accepted as a faulty memory. And maybe it is.

You said “ the world and it's spiritual realm doesn't want to let us go towards the truth.“. I absolutely agree. How does that scripture go? “Friendship with the world is enmity toward God.”

You also mentioned perceptions. One of the possible explanations for the Effect is that our perceptions are being affected. I think it must be very disorienting and frightening for someone who is not a Believer to start seeing reality shift around them.

But whatever is going on, the Lord knows all about it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But whatever is going on, the Lord knows all about it.

Amen.
He describes it clearly , also, throughout His Word.

He warns against the false make believe stories presented in the world.

Thus we should continue to TRUST GOD. TRUST JESUS.

And don't accept nor trust the world and it's myths or stories that do not agree with God.


"Ask God for His Wisdom, if anyone lacks wisdom, for God gives His Wisdom Freely and without remorse (no bad feelings with it)" James

Thus, to find the reason for the effects perceived, ask God for His Understanding, His Wisdom , concerning them. He freely gives - and only the truth, never a lie....

 

[Dave G.]

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I enjoyed Chuck Missler’s approach to studying the Bible. Very methodical.

Your account of the truck is interesting. Before the QE/ME became known and talked about, what you’re describing would simply be accepted as a faulty memory. And maybe it is.

You said “ the world and it's spiritual realm doesn't want to let us go towards the truth.“. I absolutely agree. How does that scripture go? “Friendship with the world is enmity toward God.”

You also mentioned perceptions. One of the possible explanations for the Effect is that our perceptions are being affected. I think it must be very disorienting and frightening for someone who is not a Believer to start seeing reality shift around them.

But whatever is going on, the Lord knows all about it.

Chuck had an engineering and science background and some interesting past work relationships. He had a unique perspective on some of the phenomenon around that really can throw people off course. But he seemed very focused and knew scripture and had a true heart for Jesus as was evident more than once in his messages. And I'll leave it at that.

If evidence of that truck kit ever shows up I'll let you know lol !