the Mandela Effect...

[Lulav]

I'm just catching up, are you noticing the effect, and if so, are you concerned?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Yes, I have and didn't have a name to put to it until I started hearing about the ME.

I think it's truly happening and when you look at things around you like music, books, videos it can be seen that others do as well.

I think it's a manipulation of space, time and energy that only a few understood (like Tesla) but are now being experimented with by many others. Of course governments are looking into this to one up each other, all about Power.

But we must not let these things shake us. As I said in a previous post, when I found out someone was alive who I had thought dead long ago I really was shaken, I really started to doubt, it really as they say, Rocked my world, literally. But I then after much contemplation realized that it was a trick in the arsenal of the enemy of Gods people. Brought about to shake the foundations of those not fully anchored.

 

[Lulav]

Just out of curiosity, I’d like to ask:

Do any of you folks recall studying about Australia and it being chosen as a penal colony, in part because of its isolation?

I remember reading fictional books on this, I think one was from James Mitchner who wrote incredible stories, fictionalized but researched extensively and founded in truths of history.
If I remember correctly it was an English Territory when that happened and Australia was about as far away from England as you could get.

The topic was exposed as false (and worldly and unprofitable). That's the best and maybe the the most that can be offered by anyone.

I can't agree with that, of course there will be naysayers, and obviously you are one of those, but that's not what this thread is about.

It is good to be able to discuss this with other believers to help prevent deception or being mislead by it. To try and shut it down is actually what the enemy would want to keep us wondering and questioning our own sanity and beliefs. Not a good thing.

 

[Lulav]

Here's a vid from some guys who have been watching and reporting on this 'effect'

Have any of you experienced the recall they have?

1. The Thinker
2. Ed McMahon
3. Kennedy Car
4. Statue of Liberty
5. Moon Landing(s)
6. Where's Your Heart?
7. Airplane Engines

 

[Howard1955]

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[yeshuaslavejeff]

I can't agree with that, of course there will be naysayers, and obviously you are one of those, but that's not what this thread is about.

It is good to be able to discuss this with other believers to help prevent deception or being mislead by it. To try and shut it down is actually what the enemy would want to keep us wondering and questioning our own sanity and beliefs. Not a good thing.

The various and manifold deceptionis are clearly revealed by Jesus, and fully described in His Word, as the Father permits.
The enemy uses movies and fantasies and stories like the mandela to keep people from finding the truth.
Not nay saying, but seeking and finding the truth, instead of fairy tales/ myths.

There is nothing happening, or that's happened , that requires seeking nor believing myths to explain.
Everything in stead is to be understood as Yahweh grants understanding,
as He Reveals through Jesus the Truth, that is unchanging, and true and stable.

 

[Lulav]

The various and manifold deceptionis are clearly revealed by Jesus, and fully described in His Word, as the Father permits.
The enemy uses movies and fantasies and stories like the mandela to keep people from finding the truth.
Not nay saying, but seeking and finding the truth, instead of fairy tales/ myths.

There is nothing happening, or that's happened , that requires seeking nor believing myths to explain.
Everything in stead is to be understood as Yahweh grants understanding,
as He Reveals through Jesus the Truth, that is unchanging, and true and stable.

And what exactly are you referring to as a myth and please define your understanding of what a myth is.

 

[HopeInJesusOnly]

I remember reading fictional books on this, I think one was from James Mitchner who wrote incredible stories, fictionalized but researched extensively and founded in truths of history.
If I remember correctly it was an English Territory when that happened and Australia was about as far away from England as you could get.

I can't agree with that, of course there will be naysayers, and obviously you are one of those, but that's not what this thread is about.

It is good to be able to discuss this with other believers to help prevent deception or being mislead by it. To try and shut it down is actually what the enemy would want to keep us wondering and questioning our own sanity and beliefs. Not a good thing.

When I look at the state of the world (leading up to the virus), it was not heading in a good direction. We idolized to silly extents -- Justin Beiber fans are called Beliebers (Who do you believe in?), Mariah Carey called her fans Lambs (seriously?), Gaga has Little Monsters...and everyone on social media has followers (I thought we were followers of Christ).

And the music videos. I never batted an eye. I rewatched Gaga's Telephone the other day -- I finally see the craziness that passed for art. I mean, she's poisoning people's food.

We walk around looking down at our phones or with earpieces in our ears, completely removed from the people around us. Or else we are in front of a monitor of some sort....anything with a black screen.

People think they are connecting with friends when they head online. THAT is actually social distancing. Connecting to the internet is not the same as connecting in real life. Picture any memory from your past right now, I'll bet it's a real life experience you are picturing, not a moment online.

Where is community? The love is gone.

I regret the decisions I made leading up to seeing the Mandela Effect. I only pray it's not too late to change.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Where is community? The love is gone.

I regret the decisions I made leading up to seeing the Mandela Effect. I only pray it's not too late to change.

Good.
(if the regret leads to Godly sorrow and repentance)

The m effect is a common deception spiritually, (and sometimes just physically/mentally).

The remedy for it, as for any deception , is truth - in Jesus, as the Father makes known the truth.

All the so-called effects, often something that really happens/ed, are described BY THE FATHER in Heaven,
quite contrary and not at all any m effect.

The Father always knew what is and was and ever happened.
The same truth in the first century, REVEALED to little children by the Father from heaven, in Jesus,
is still the same truth today. Still the same revealtion by the Father thru Jesus, to little children.

THus the remedy for sin and for believing the myths is the same: turn to God , for HIS KINGDOM, TRUTH, IS at hand (not far off)....

 

[Howard1955]

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[yeshuaslavejeff]

Because I trust the Lord, I do not believe he is causing me to be confused or deluded. Therefore, what I am experiencing is real.
I could be wrong. I freely admit it. But my desire is to be both guide-able and guided, by the Lord Jesus Christ.
If I wake up tomorrow and find that all of this strangeness and mystery was nothing more than a bad dream, I will still trust the Lord and ask for his guidance. What else can I do? What else can any of us do?
However it has happened, we are now sharing a little bit of the experience that those first believers had. They knew what they had seen, but when they reported it to others (including their religious leaders), they were scorned, mocked, and ridiculed.
But my daily experience of this does not make me feel “special”. I am mystified.

What we both see and hear - this is what the disciples said is what the testified to. They DESCRIBED their experiences the way YAHWEH and JESUS instructed them to.... not with strange fire or strange teachings...

Your experiences are real. Whether they come from Yahweh, a good gift, or from a 'supposed' angel of light - two different sources described by Jesus and God's Word.

TEST THE SPIRITS. As Scripture says to. We are not to make up other explanations that are not in line with God's Word, and that are not given by God.
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but regarding the validity of our experiences, there are only two possibilities. Either what we are seeing as “changes” is really happening, or it is not. Either way, we are face-to-face with mysteries.

IN Scripture, the mysteries were only mysteries until described/ revealed by Yahweh and Jesus. (and through the Apostles)
Yes, experiences GOOD and BAD, are 'valid' in that they happen. The way God says to treat them is what is different from the flesh and the world.
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If what we are experiencing is actually what is happening, then my best guess is that the old prophecies are unfolding.

Yes, good point - all that has happened and that is happening was all prophecied in Scripture - so again, God describes it perfectly. HE warns not to use the ways of the world or of the enemy to try to describe it.
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If what we are experiencing is not what is actually happening, then there is either some sort of collective hysteria or madness in us, or something is affecting our perceptions. If the Lord himself has given us over to a delusion, then all hope is lost. In my notes, I address these as Possibilities # 2 and # 4.

Most people on earth are unable to appraise things spiritual. This is WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE. They have no ability to understand the spirit / truth/ or reality.

Only those to whom God Grants Life, with understanding and wisdom as He Says, "revealing the truth",
as Jesus says, in the Biblem,
are able to grasp or describe the things that are happening all around them, all around the world,
and they understand and reveal that mandela is manmade problem/ deception trying to describe things in spirit wrongly, without God's approval or Word.

 

[fwGod]

I've noticed this change in my bible...should it not be "heavens"?

Genesis 1 King James Version
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The Hebrew word translated by the King James Version translators, "heaven" in Genesis 1:1 is the word "Ha Shamayim" the suffix 'im' indicates the word is meant to be plural.
The translators next correctly translated Genesis 2:1, "..the heavens and the earth."

So there you are. It should be "heavens".

 

[fwGod]

No, actually it probably belongs in the Prophesy section if there is one. People are calling this manifestation the "Mandela Effect" when actually the ME is a result of unfulfilled prophecy like Amos 8:11-12, or Daniel 7:25. Not the cause but the result.

The mandela effect is not by any stretch of the imagination classifiable as a bonafide fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. For the reason that God's word is on the line therefore He would NOT allow any unauthorized man made effect remove His word that upholds all things.. That tells mankind about God and His Son Jesus Christ. That provides redemption, salvation, deliverance from sin... His word is not like grass that is only for a time then is no more. His word is eternal.

Therefore Amos 8:11-12 has to be read in complete context to understand that it is fulfilled in that past time of the Old Testament and not to be applied to today.

The people who should have been making their ears attentive to hear God speak such as the prophet Amos was doing.. were not after him.

Therefore God's people perished for a lack of knowledge.

The other Bible verse Daniel 7:25 has also been erroneously misapplied. That speaks of a time when a man that is now theologically called the antichrist will attempt to usurp authority over laws, be they national, international, global laws.

He's not here now. But he will be during the time called the 7 year Tribulation which the apostle John wrote of in the book of Revelation.

Those two verses are being erroneously misapplied as a fulfillment of the mandela effect by whoever misapplied it and those who don't recognize an error when it's communicated are led astray.

In contrast to Amos.. Jesus said that He hears God speak and so He says what He heard God say. Which indicates that Jesus ministered on the earth as a prophet who taught the people the word of God.

And what of us today? Is there a lack of knowledge, Or shall I say Is there a removal of verses anywhere in the Bible?

No. The New Testament, the gospels, the epistles are intact. We are to be filled with the knowledge of God's will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding in order to walk worthy of the LORD.

This forum proves that Christians are able to quote scriptures on any possible topic. It's only those who've missapplied Amos and Daniel to use them for their own personal conspiracy theory.

Those who know God's word, His purpose for giving His word know that the mandela effect is a memory problem, there is no truth to the claim that the m.e. removes any word of God from the Bible.

 

[Howard1955]

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[fwGod]

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In the beginning was the Word...

I’m confident that you know how that verse goes, and that “The Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us.”

That Word will always remain. A printed book - any printed book - is subject to being changed. Even the Bible.

There is a warning against making changes to the book of Revelation.

The ancient scribes were very careful when they copied what we now call the Old Testament. They were being careful so they wouldn’t accidentally change anything.

Now, the homosexuals have rewritten the King James Bible, leaving out the parts that offended them. They call their version the Queen James Bible. It’s available on Amazon.

As stated in your post, the particular book you mention is not authorized by translators in good standing, as a matter of fact, there is nothing that they need to translate.. but rather they are interpreters that are not in good standing.. much like the Skeptic's Bible.. Therefore there is nothing of inspiration of God in either of them whatsoever.

If the mandela effect were real, and I'm not saying that it is, but just for the sake of argument.. It's not likely that the mandela effect will target either one of them.

 

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[fwGod]

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I’m simply pointing out that any printed book can be changed, whether the changes are authorized or not.

If we humans have developed some technology that is completely new - possibly connected to cern or the D-wave computers - and that new tech is causing the weirdness we’re seeing - then we might get an explanation from them at some point.

But if the fallen angels are involved, then the likelihood that we’ll get an explanation drops to zero.

It’s a comfort to know that the Lord knows what’s going on, even when we don’t.

Therein lies the problem.. is that you're looking for some other explanation rather than the real one. Why is that?

The technology is not the cause, nor has it produced any result that anyone claims to be the culprit. Fallen angels are not the reason. Why would they bother when all they need to do is suggest to a christian that the technology has changed or removed verses in the Bible.

Why are Christians willing to believe such things?

All fallen angels need to do is have some conspiracy theorist liar tell them that CERN was used to send a black ops group back into the past and change the verses.

That boat don't float when the christian knows that there is no such technology. It's science fiction.

Such things are relying on Christians not to know the correct explanation and answers. Such claims also rely on the Christian not having a good memory concerning scripture verses in the Bible. That is why it seems, for instance, to them that "the lion and the lamb" verse has been changed. The Christians don't bother to do research and find out the truth, they just accept the lie that is presented to them.. that it's all the M.E's fault.

Then is the admonition given by the conspiracy theorist or by a Christian who concluded that the Christian must therefore use their memories to be assured to keep the correct intention of the scriptures just in case one of them changes too.

But, the flaw with that reasoning is that if they had good memories to start with then they would know that the lion and lamb verse hasn't ever been changed, but it's been their memories that are at fault.

Wonder how they explained to themselves the reason why they didn't remember verses of the Bible before the Mandela Effect came along "to explain it" to them.

The non disciplined memory cannot be relied upon. God knew that so He had His word written down and made available to read and memorize it. But people know that memories are faulty and unfortunately take advantage of that.

The Bible has not been changed in the way that the conspiracy theorists are saying that it has. The verses have not been changed as the M.E. explanation is saying that they have been.

 

[Howard1955]

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