THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY!

[Saint Steven]

The topic originator is mocking my responses with "Funny" and "Optimistic" votes. Clearly nothing to do with my posts, which were neither funny nor optimistic.

The originator has not yet owned up to either his limiting of sources in the OP, or his violation his own rule in exploring the NT Greek study reference materials. A NT Greek Lexicon being an unbiblical source. No different than a dictionary, or historical record, as I am presenting here.

Still mocking with votes.

 

[Saint Steven]

Well this has no truth in it.

Let's test your claims against scripture...

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27). Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22). If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4). Jesus knew that all the disciples would be keeping the Sabbath after his death *Matthew 24:20. Paul kept the Sabbath with both Jews and Gentile believers after Christs death *ACTS 13:14-15; 42-44; ACTS 16:13; ACTS 17:1-2; ACTS 18:4-5. Yep if you believe God's WORD Jesus and all the Apostles kept the Sabbath and so did the early Church *ACTS 18:4-5.

Ok there is a lot of scripture all showing Jesus and the Apostles and the early Church worshipping God on the Sabbath. Now Question for you...

*Where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

CONFESSIONS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

Sorry Steve, God's WORD disagrees with you. I am happy to provide historical references as well if you like just let me know but for the most part this OP is sola scriptura. Thanks for sharing your thoughts however, but only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Hope this helps.

If what you are saying is true (it isn't) then Jesus should have been an exemplary Sabbath-keeper. Is that what we find? (nope) Scripture below.

John 5:18
For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

Matthew 12:2
When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

 

[Saint Steven]

Still mocking with votes.

And... Still mocking with votes.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If what you are saying is true (it isn't) then Jesus should have been an exemplary Sabbath-keeper. Is that what we find? (nope) Scripture below.

John 5:18
For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

Matthew 12:2
When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

Hello Steve,

The scriptures you have provided above are what the Pharasees said and accused Jesus of doing. That does not mean that Jesus was breaking the Sabbath. If that was the case then everone of us are still in our sins because Jesus was never a perfect sacrifice because in your view he is a sinner because he broke the Sabbath. I know you do not believe that now do you?

In the days of Jesus the religious teachers of the day had placed so many man made traditions around Sabbath keeping that it had become a burden to the people. It was though in their eyes MANKIND was made for the Sabbath. It was so bad in fact that these religious teachers were constantly looking for ways to accuse Jesus of breaking the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-2; 10; Mark 3:2'; Luke 6:1-2).

Jesus rebuked these religious teachers by saying that the Sabbath was made for MAN and NOT MAN for the SABBATH (Mark 2:27 and that he was the CREATOR or LORD of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28) and it was LAWFUL to do GOOD on the SABBATH (Matt 12:12)

Jesus did God's WORK on the Sabbath and so should we everyday but God's WORK is not the work we are commanded NOT to do on God's Sabbath for it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath.

Have you not read what David did, when he was hungry, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them who were with him, but only for the priests?

Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? How much then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20
8, Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Doing GOD'S WORK is NOT what the 4th Commandment is talking about please read it.

God's 4th Commandments says we are NOT to do OUR OWN WORK. Yep NO secular business or paid work, no unnecessary domestic work, no buying and selling, shopping. This can be done on the other days of the week. God has made the SEVENTH DAY a HOLY DAY and we are to REST in HIM by FAITH in the LORD of the SABBATH. This is the 4th Commandment and one of the God's 10.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Meester-Chung]

Saturday is the Day of Saturn. SDA's won't mention that

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

Thanks for your detailed response.

I agree that there are problems with the Didache. This is why it was not included as part of the canon of scriptures. In fact, it wasn't even under consideration. I am not here to promote the Didache as a religious text. It is provided as a historical text, as a resource.

From that perspective it is only one of many historical texts that give us a window into that time period. What we see is a church that was gathering on the first day of the week, the Lord's Day. And it is written in the first century. Dated as early as 60 AD.

What this means is that the Catholic Church did not change the Sabbath to Sunday. Constantine did not change the Sabbath to Sunday. Canon XIII of the Laodicean Council did not change the Sabbath to Sunday. The first day of the week was always the day of worship for the church. The early Christian church was not a Sabbath-keeping church. Period.

I understand where you are coming from brother, but unless the source can be proven as accurate as scripture(as in inerrant when compared to the whole bible) we have no way of knowing if anything within it was written by those of the true Church(outside of comparing it to the Gospel) or if they were written by those who were trying to lead the Church away from the true Gospel.

Do you see where I'm coming from on this brother?

 

[Saint Steven]

Hello Steve,

The scriptures you have provided above are what the Pharasees said and accused Jesus of doing. That does not mean that Jesus was breaking the Sabbath. If that was the case then everone of us are still in our sins because Jesus was never a perfect sacrifice because in your view he is a sinner because he broke the Sabbath. I know you do not believe that now do you?

In the days of Jesus the religious teachers of the day had placed so many man made traditions around Sabbath keeping that it had become a burden to the people. It was though in their eyes MANKIND was made for the Sabbath. It was so bad in fact that these religious teachers were constantly looking for ways to accuse Jesus of breaking the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-2; 10; Mark 3:2'; Luke 6:1-2).

Jesus rebuked these religious teachers by saying that the Sabbath was made for MAN and NOT MAN for the SABBATH (Mark 2:27 and that he was the CREATOR or LORD of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28) and it was LAWFUL to do GOOD on the SABBATH (Matt 12:12)

Jesus did God's WORK on the Sabbath and so should we everyday but God's WORK is not the work we are commanded NOT to do on God's Sabbath for it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath.

Have you not read what David did, when he was hungry, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them who were with him, but only for the priests?

Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? How much then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20
8, Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Doing GOD'S WORK is NOT what the 4th Commandment is talking about please read it.

God's 4th Commandments says we are NOT to do OUR OWN WORK. Yep NO secular business or paid work, no unnecessary domestic work, no buying and selling, shopping. This can be done on the other days of the week. God has made the SEVENTH DAY a HOLY DAY and we are to REST in HIM by FAITH in the LORD of the SABBATH. This is the 4th Commandment and one of the God's 10.

.......................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

In the final analysis, Jesus was setting the law aside. That's why it was not sin for him to seemingly violate the Sabbath. The scriptures I provided include a quote from the Apostle John about what Jesus was doing and the testimony of the eyewitnesses.

John 5:18
For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

Matthew 12:2
When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

 

[Saint Steven]

I understand where you are coming from brother, but unless the source can be proven as accurate scripture(as in inerrant when compared to the whole bible) we have no way of knowing if it was written by those of the true Church or if they were written by those who were trying to lead the Church away from the true Gospel.

Do you see where I'm coming from on this brother?

What is your explanation for Sunday as a day of worship? How did this come about historically from your POV?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

In the final analysis, Jesus was setting the law aside.

Where does Jesus say he was setting aside the 10 commandments? (scripture please?).
In your view is Jesus contradicting himself?

MATTHEW 5:17-19 [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. [18], For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19], Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [20], For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

That's why it was not sin for him to seemingly violate the Sabbath. The scriptures I provided include a quote from the Apostle John about what Jesus was doing and the testimony of the eyewitnesses.

Was Jesus sinniing or was he sinning in the eyes of the Pharasees who did not know that Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath coming to teach them the correct way to keep it? (e.g the scriptures posted earlier).

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27). Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22). If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4). Jesus knew that all the disciples would be keeping the Sabbath after his death *Matthew 24:20. Paul kept the Sabbath with both Jews and Gentile believers after Christs death *ACTS 13:14-15; 42-44; ACTS 16:13; ACTS 17:1-2; ACTS 18:4-5. Yep if you believe God's WORD Jesus and all the Apostles kept the Sabbath and so did the early Church *ACTS 18:4-5.

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Let's look at the scriptures you have provided. Are they God's WORD or the God's WORD showing us what the Pharisees were saying?

John 5:18
For this reason they (Pharisees and Jewish leaders) tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

Matthew 12:2
When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

Yep pretty clear here that it is God's WORD saying what the Pharisees were saying not what God was teaching.

Hope this helps

 

[LoveGodsWord]

What is your explanation for Sunday as a day of worship? How did this come about historically from your POV?

There is no scripture. The disciples met daily. There is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and traditions of men that has led many to break the commandments of God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

 

[Saint Steven]

Where does Jesus say he was setting aside the 10 commandments? (scripture please?).
In your view is Jesus contradicting himself?

MATTHEW 5:17-19 [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. [18], For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19], Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [20], For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.



Was Jesus sinniing or was he sinning in the eyes of the Pharasees who did not know that Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath coming to teach them the correct way to keep it? (e.g the scriptures posted earlier).

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27). Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22). If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4). Jesus knew that all the disciples would be keeping the Sabbath after his death *Matthew 24:20. Paul kept the Sabbath with both Jews and Gentile believers after Christs death *ACTS 13:14-15; 42-44; ACTS 16:13; ACTS 17:1-2; ACTS 18:4-5. Yep if you believe God's WORD Jesus and all the Apostles kept the Sabbath and so did the early Church *ACTS 18:4-5.

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Let's look at the scriptures you have provided. Are they God's WORD or the God's WORD showing us what the Pharisees were saying?

John 5:18
For this reason they (Pharisees and Jewish leaders) tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

John 9:16
Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.

Matthew 12:2
When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

Yep pretty clear here that it is God's WORD saying what the Pharisees were saying not what God was teaching.

Hope this helps

Jesus own defense is very revealing.
The most basic thing about the Sabbath is that it is a day of rest, therefore no work of any kind is allowed. However, Jesus was working on the Sabbath. What does Jesus say in his own defense?

John 5:17
In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.”

 

[JLB777]

Q. WHAT DAY IS THE "LORD'S DAY" ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE?
A. MATTHEW 12:8 [8], For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Is the Son of Man Lord of the rest of the days of the week, or just the Sabbath?



JLB

 

[Saint Steven]

There is no scripture. The disciples met daily. There is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and traditions of men that has led many to break the commandments of God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Did you happen to notice that most churches gather on Sunday? What is your explanation for Sunday as a day of worship? How did this come about historically from your POV?

 

[JLB777]

Now friend's the SABBATH is the 4th Commandment of God's 10 Commandments and there is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED

The Sabbath according to the law of Moses has been abolished, because the law of commandments contained in ordinances has been abolished.


having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances,





For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, Ephesians 2:14-15



So the Sabbath is as it was in the beginning before the law of Moses was added.


The Sabbath is simply made for man to rest.



JLB

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

What is your explanation for Sunday as a day of worship? How did this come about historically from your POV?

Christ and the Apostles preached the fullness of the Gospel, and every true Christian has preached the same. So my explanation for it becoming a day of worship(a Sabbath day) is simple, false teachers/shepherd's arose and deceived the flock.

From my point of view brother, we can only speculate on when exactly this practice came into place, but from the quotes you provided(and Paul's mention of the rest remaining in Hebrews 4) it must have been very early that people started to be lead away from the Saturday Sabbath. From what I can tell soon after the Apostles death the Churches were being strongly lead away from the Gospel, since the Apostles were not there to Correct them as needed. I would say it became a custom to keep Sunday soon after John's death(or at least that is when it gained momentum) as that is when we see many of the Early writers mentioning it.

 

[Saint Steven]

Christ and the Apostles preached the fullness of the Gospel, and every true Christian has preached the same. So my explanation for it becoming a day of worship(a Sabbath day) is simple, false teachers/shepherd's arose and deceived the flock.

From my point of view brother, we can only speculate on when exactly this practice came into place, but from the quotes you provided it must have been very early that people started to be lead away from the Saturday Sabbath. From what I can tell soon after the Apostles death the Churches were starting to be lead away from the Gospel, since the Apostles were not there to Correct them as needed. I would say it became a custom to keep Sunday soon after John's death(or at least that is when it gained momentum) as that is when we see many of the Early writers mentioning it.

Okay thanks. That helps me to understand where you are coming from. The next question is, where do we see a Sabbath-keeping church in the New Testament? If the church strayed from the practice early on, where is the proof that there was a practice to stray from?

 

[Saint Steven]

There is no scripture. The disciples met daily. There is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and traditions of men that has led many to break the commandments of God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Just to be clear, I don't believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. And I don't believe we are required to "observe" Sunday as a holy day. We are not obligated to any day. IMHO

I do not consider Sunday to be a Sabbath.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

Okay thanks. That helps me to understand where you are coming from. The next question is, where do we see a Sabbath-keeping church in the New Testament? If the church strayed from the practice early on, where is the proof that there was a practice to stray from?

That is a much longer answer brother, but I will do my best to keep it short.

1. Sabbath keeping Church in NT under Grace. On the Sabbath day.
Acts 13:14, Acts 13:42-44, Acts 15:21, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:1-3, Acts 18:4

2. Practice to Stray from. A rest remains to those who believe.

Hebrews 4:1-11
First Paul tells us to fear if the Promise of rest were to have left us.
1. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.


The Gospel did not profit them who heard but did not have faith.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.


We who believed enter into rest as we were commanded to by God when he swore to us that if we enter into the rest set by him after he had finished the works from the foundation of the world.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


That is why he spoke in a certain place(the Moral law) on this matter, showing that even he did rest on this Seventh day sanctifying it as a everlasting sign and covenant between us.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.


And we are told again to continue to enter into his rest(keep the sabbath day) to receive his promise.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.


Seeing this, we know it remains(the sabbath day remains) that some must enter therein(those of faith/belief). But to those to whom it was first given did not keep it because of their unbelief.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:


When the Lord spoke to david he again limited a certain day(to david was again given the seventh day rest).
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.


If Christ had come to give us another day of rest(another sabbath) then would he not have spoken of another day? Christ never mentioned another day for sabbath worship, it cannot be found anywhere in the New Testament.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.


Because no other day was given by Christ or YHWH there remains a rest to the people of God. The same Sabbath day rest shown and spoken of since the beginning of the bible, being shown all the way into the new heavens and the New earth.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


Those that enter into God's rest(seventh day sabbath) cease from their own works, after the example of God himself ceasing from his.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.


We are to labour to enter enter into that same rest(same sabbath day) lest we fall away from God as those others did from unbelief.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

The Rest spoken of throughout this Chapter is the Seventh day rest(Sabbath day).

That's about as short an answer as I can get it brother.

 

[Saint Steven]

That is a much longer answer brother, but I will do my best to keep it short.

1. Sabbath keeping Church in NT under Grace. On the Sabbath day.
Acts 13:14, Acts 13:42-44, Acts 15:21, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:1-3, Acts 18:4

2. Practice to Stray from. A rest remains to those who believe.

Hebrews 4:1-11
First Paul tells us to fear if the Promise of rest were to have left us.
1. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.


The Gospel did not profit them who heard but did not have faith.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.


We who believed enter into rest as we were commanded to by God when he swore to us that if we enter into the rest set by him after he had finished the works from the foundation of the world.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


That is why he spoke in a certain place(the Moral law) on this matter, showing that even he did rest on this Seventh day sanctifying it as a everlasting sign and covenant between us.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.


And we are told again to continue to enter into his rest(keep the sabbath day) to receive his promise.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.


Seeing this, we know it remains(the sabbath day remains) that some must enter therein(those of faith/belief). But to those to whom it was first given did not keep it because of their unbelief.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:


When the Lord spoke to david he again limited a certain day(to david was again given the seventh day rest).
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.


If Jesus had come to give us another day of rest(another sabbath) then would he not have spoken of another day? Christ never mentioned another day for sabbath worship, it cannot be found anywhere in the New Testament.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.


Because no other day was given by Christ or YHWH there remains a rest to the people of God. The same Sabbath day rest shown and spoken of since the beginning of the bible, being shown all the way into the new heavens and the New earth.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


Those that enter into God's rest(seventh day sabbath) cease from their own works, after the example of God himself ceasing from his.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.


We are to labour to enter enter into that same rest(same sabbath day) lest we fall away from God as those others did from unbelief.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

The Rest spoken of throughout this Chapter is the Seventh day rest(Sabbath day).

That's about as short an answer as I can get it brother.

Thanks, I appreciate the concise answer.
Nowhere have you demonstrated that the believers were gathering on the Sabbath. You have examples of the Apostle Paul on a mission evangelizing to Jews in the synagogues, there were a few gentiles around as well. But no indication of a Sabbath-keeping church. And Hebrews chapter four says the opposite to me of what you think it might be saying. Where's the news? If the Sabbath is the thing, why tell us that "a" Sabbath remains? That's "a", not "the".

And as I said in a previous post, I don't believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. And I don't believe we are required to "observe" Sunday as a holy day. We are not obligated to any day. IMHO

I do not consider Sunday to be a Sabbath. ​

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

Thanks, I appreciate the concise answer.
Nowhere have you demonstrated that the believers were gathering on the Sabbath. You have examples of the Apostle Paul on a mission evangelizing to Jews in the synagogues, there were a few gentiles around as well. But no indication of a Sabbath-keeping church. And Hebrews chapter four says the opposite to me of what you think it might be saying. Where's the news? If the Sabbath is the thing, why tell us that "a" Sabbath remains? That's "a", not "the".

And as I said in a previous post, I don't believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. And I don't believe we are required to "observe" Sunday as a holy day. We are not obligated to any day. IMHO

I do not consider Sunday to be a Sabbath. ​

Well I do have a much longer answer brother, but I hope we can discuss these few verse without having to jump into a massive study as that usually comes to no avail.

1. Each of the verses say they gathered on the sabbath day to teach. This is indeed an example, of them observing the Sabbath day, otherwise it would say simply that they gathered on A Day without any qualifier.

2. The only Sabbath being spoken of here is the seventh day Sabbath(which I pointed out in the last post brother), it even says if another Sabbath was to be instituted Christ would have mentioned it. It also in the first verse says if the Sabbath rest were to have left us we should be afraid. That is to say if the Sabbath were gone we should fear.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

Thanks, I appreciate the concise answer.
Nowhere have you demonstrated that the believers were gathering on the Sabbath. You have examples of the Apostle Paul on a mission evangelizing to Jews in the synagogues, there were a few gentiles around as well. But no indication of a Sabbath-keeping church. And Hebrews chapter four says the opposite to me of what you think it might be saying. Where's the news? If the Sabbath is the thing, why tell us that "a" Sabbath remains? That's "a", not "the".

And as I said in a previous post, I don't believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. And I don't believe we are required to "observe" Sunday as a holy day. We are not obligated to any day. IMHO

I do not consider Sunday to be a Sabbath. ​

Brother

Might I ask that you give me your interpretation verse by verse(in the same manner I did) of Hebrews 4?