The Lord's Day is Sunday.

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No and I have no text saying that for all eternity after the cross mankind will be called to "build an ark".
I also do not have a Gen 6 text telling all mankind to be the builders of the Ark in Noah's day.



Sabbath is one of the Ten Commandments and they are called "the Commandment of God" by Christ in Mark 7:7-13.



Paul is the one saying "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
John says "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His Commandments" 1 John 5:3

No NT writer presents God's Commandments as "a bad thing" or something to be ignored if you are a really good saint.



which is how NT writers describe obedience in the life of the saints even today.

Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law (even before the cross):
(Which means He was not teaching primarily Old Covenant, but New Covenant):

The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"
(Matthew 5:38 cf. Exodus 21:23-25).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39).


The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment" (Matthew 5:21 cf. Numbers 35:30-32).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22).


The Old Way says:
"Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:" (Matthew 5:34 cf. Numbers 30:1-2, Deuteronomy 23:21).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
34 "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Matthew 5:34-37).


The Old Way says:
"And of thy mercy cut off mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant." (Psalms 143:12).

"And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent." (Joshua 6:17).

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21).

16 "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

"They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them" (Psalms 106:34).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44).

Note: Yes, I am aware that the Old Way (Old Testament) also teaches to love one's enemies (Exodus 23:4-5) (Proverbs 25:21), but this was in context to their own Israelite people, and not pagan nations. Pagan nations were to be destroyed when God commanded the Israelites to destroy them. But Jesus taught a radically different way. Love your enemies, and do good to them that hate you, and to pray for those who persecute you.


The Old Way says:
20 "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:20-22).

4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" (John 8:4-5).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. " (John 8:7).


Even after the cross, there were changes being made:

The Old Covenant says this about circumcision:
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." (Genesis 17:14).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about circumcision:
"Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing."
(Galatians 5:2).


The Old Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
32 "And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses." (Numbers 15:32-36).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16).

So it appears things have changed.

This makes sense because again, Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed.

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
(Hebrews 7:12).

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
(John 1:17).

Jesus said,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17).

Jesus came not to abolish the Law (in the sense of destroying all forms of Law), but Jesus came to fulfill the Law (i.e. to nail to the cross those ordinances that were against us [like the Old Covenant ceremonial laws], and Jesus came to give us a more fulfilled and perfect way of obeying God via the commands that come directly from Him and His followers). For Jesus offered a more perfect way of loving God, and loving our neighbor (Which of course is only possible via if we are first saved by God's grace through faith).

 

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Here is 100 fun facts backed up with God’s Word regarding God’s Sabbath and Sunday Worship

1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. (Genesis 2:1.3.)

2. This stamped that day as God’s rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.

3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God’s Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God’s rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God’s Sabbath day.

4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. (Genesis 2:3.)

5. He sanctified the seventh day. (Exodus 20:11.)

6. He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:1-3.)

7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.

8. Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27), that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jew.

9. It is a memorial of creation. (Exodus 20:11; 31:17.) Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.

10. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. (Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.)

11. Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. (Acts 17:26.)

12. It is’ not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.

13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always “the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God’s holy rest day.

14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all, through the patriarchal age. (Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10-12; 29:27-28.etc.)

15. It was a part of God’s law before Sinai. (Exodus 16:4, 27-29.)

16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. (Exodus 20:1-17.) Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?

17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. (Deuteronomy 4:12-13.)

18. Then He wrote the Commandment with His own finger. (Exodus 31:18.)

19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. (Deuteronomy 5:22.)

20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. (Deuteronomy 10:1-5.)

21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. (Exodus 34:21.)

22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. (Ezekiel 20:12-13.)

23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. (Ezekiel 20:20.)

24. God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath (Jeremiah 17:24-25.)

25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. (Nehemiah 13:18.)

26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. (Jeremiah 17:27.)

27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. (Isaiah 56:6-7.)

28. This is in the prophecy, which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. (See Isaiah 56.)

29. God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:2.)

30. The Lord requires us to call it “honourable.” (Isaiah 58:13.) Beware, ye who take delight in calling it the. “old Jewish Sabbath,” “a yoke of bondage,” etc.

31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down “many generations,” it is to be restored in the last days. (Isaiah 58:12-13.)

32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.

33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. (Luke 4:16; John 15:10.) Thus He followed His Father’s example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?

34. The seventh day is the Lord’s Day. (See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.)

35. Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her (1 Peter 3:6.)

36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man’s good. (Mark 2:23-28.)

37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. (Matthew 13:1-13.)

38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was “lawful” (Matthew 12:12.)

39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. (Matthew 24:20.)

40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. (Luke 23:56.)

41. Thirty years after Christ’s resurrection, the Holy Spirit’ expressly calls it “the Sabbath day,” (Acts 13:14.)

42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the “Sabbath day” in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27.) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?

43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the “Sabbath day.” (Acts 13:44.)

44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. (Acts 13:42.)

45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 49. In the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the “Sabbath day.” (Acts 15:21.)

46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. (Acts 16:13.)

47. Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. (Acts 17:2-3.)

48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. (Acts 17:2-3.)

49. The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4. 11.)

50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.

51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?

52. But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. “Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple,nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.” Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?

53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, “the Sabbath day.”

54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath’s being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.

55. God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use - the seventh day for common labor?

56. No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?

57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.

58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22-23.)

59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.” Matthew 5:17

60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same tune they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

Forty Bible Facts Concerning the First Day of the Week

61. The very first thing recorded In the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. (Genesis l: l-5.) The Creator Himself did this. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?

62. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. (Exodus 20:8-11.) Is it wrong to obey God?

63. None of the patriarchs ever kept it.

64. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.

65. By the express command of-God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.

66. God Himself calls it a “working” day. (Ezekiel 46:1.)

67. God did not rest upon it.

68. He never blessed it.

69. Christ did not rest upon it.

70. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day’s work on Sunday.

71. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.

72. The apostles never rested upon it.

73. Christ never blessed it.

74. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.

75. It has never been sanctified.

76. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. “Where no law is, there is no transgression.” Romans 4:15 (See also 1 John 3:4.)

77. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.

78. No penalty is provided for its violation.

79. No blessing is promised for its observance.

80. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?

81. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.

82. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.

83. It is never called the Lord’s day.

84. It is never called even a rest day.

85. No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?

86. It is simply called “first day of the week.”

87. Jesus never-mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.

88. The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.

89. Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favour of Sunday as a holy day.

90. The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.)

91. Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.

92. Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. (1Corinthians 16:2.)

93. In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. (Acts 20:5-12.)

94. There is not intimation that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.

95. It was not their custom to meet on that day.

96. There was no requirement to break bread on that day.

97. We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. (Acts 20:7.)

98. That was done in the night-after midnight. (Verses 7-11.) Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day (Acts 2:42-46.)

99. The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. (Matthew 15:1-9.) Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. (Romans 6:3-5.)

100. Finally, the New Testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or any sacredness for the first day.

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May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word.

 

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If one is going to keep the Mosaic Law they need to keep ALL of the Mosaic Law.

For example: The Galatians believers thought they had to be circumcised (much like the Sabbatarians think they need to keep the Sabbath). In other words, what folks need to realize is if we keep one aspect of the Old Law, we need to keep the whole Law.

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.” (Galatians 5:3).

 

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SDAs and Sabbatarians simply look at the word “commandments” in the Bible and they ignore the context and immediately they think Ten Commandments instead. This simply shows the error in their own thinking.

Your claims here are not true at all, but allow me to explain why from the scriptures. There are many scriptures in the old and new testament that uses the word "law" or "commandments" in them. It is the context of these scriptures that determines the application and interpretation of these scriptures because the Hebrew or Greek word meanings outside of context can mean any law or any commandment. So it is to the context and subject matted that needs to be examined to determine if the scriptures are talking about all laws, or specific laws within all law.

For example; Romans 7:7 says what then is the law sin?... so the question could be asked is what law sin. Is this scripture talking about all law or specific laws? The answer to the question in this case is in the scripture context but sometimes it is in the chapter context. So in this case the full scripture and context reads; Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET.

So as can be shown here in the scripture context the application of law here is to the 10 commandments. Paul is asking the question is the 10 commandments sin? God forbid or NO! Then goes on to show that it is through the law (10 commandments) that we have a knowledge of what sin is and says that it is through the 10 commandments, that is if we break them we have a knowledge of what sin is by quoting THOU SHALT NOT COVET which is the 10th commandment of the 10 commandments found in Exodus 20:17.

So in this case the context and subject matter tells us that it is through the 10 commandments that we have a knowledge of what sin is as Paul is specifically quoting Gods' 10 commandments. Paul already stated earlier in Romans 3:20 that it is though the law that we have a knowledge of what sin is and in Romans 7:7 tells us specifically that the law he is referring to is God's 10 commandments.

So to make claims that SDAs and Sabbatarians simply look at the word “commandments” in the Bible and they ignore the context and immediately they think Ten Commandments is simply not truthful, not honest and is not biblical as shown in the scripture examples shown above. Same application and context can also be seen in James 2:10-11 where James is talking about the law and quoting God's 10 commandments. So as shown through the scriptures above it is your claims and accusations here that are simply not true and not biblical.

For example: The apostle said: “If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 14:37). So Paul’s writings are to be regarded as the commandments of the Lord. This is not referring to the Ten Commandments. This is referring to the commands of our Lord Jesus Christ in general. For Jesus is our Lord under the New Covenant, and Jesus gave us a new commandment. For Jesus said:“A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.” (John 13:34). 1 John 3:23 says that to believe in Jesus is a commandment. It’s not one of the Ten Commandments

Paul quotes Gods' 10 commandments His words are not God's commandments. Paul quoting Gods' Word is God's Word not Paul's words. It is only as we quote God's Word that we are telling the truth according to the scriptures (Romans 3:4). The context of Paul's quoting in 1 Corinthians 14:37 is to Spiritual gifts and prophesying and speaking in tongues one by one not all at the same time as God is not the God of confusion *1 Corinthians 14:27-33 and that women should keep silent in the Church being commanded to be under obedience as says the law of Moses *1 Corinthians 13:34. Paul here is quoting old testament scripture all through His writings that are from the Mosiac law and the prophets

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Paul teaches God's people are to keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4:9.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Cor 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Romans 2:13-16
4. Paul tells the gentiles that God's law is established though faith and not abolished like some teach here when he says "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Romans 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:6-8
6 Paul teaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's law as foretold in Jeremiah 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind through faith" Hebrew 8:10-12
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine in 2 Tim 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Ephesians 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. Paul tells us that God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Romans 7:12)
10. Paul tells us that God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20; 7:7)
11. Paul says that the penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Romans 6:23)
12. Paul says if we break God's Law we dishonor God (Romans 2:23)
13. Paul says if we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Romans 3:19)
14. Paul says we are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Romans 3:31)
15. Paul says if we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Romans 6:1-7)
16. Paul says we should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Romans 6:15)
17. Paul says we are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Romans 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. Paul says it is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Galatians 3:24)
19. Paul says God's salvation frees us from sin (breaking the law) so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Romans 6:22)
20. Paul says we will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Romans 2:4-13)
21. Paul says God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Romans 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Hebrews 8:9-10)
22. Paul says if we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Heb 10:26-27).

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Jesus also quoted old testament scripture emphasizing obedience to Gods' law not breaking Gods' law. For example...

Jesus affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matthew 5:17-20)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matt 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matt 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

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For example Jesus says in Matthew 22:36-40 that the greatest commandment is loving God with all our heart mind and soul and the the second greatest commandment is to love our neighbor as our self and that on these two great commandments of love to God and love to man hang all the law and the prophets. Jesus here is quoting from the old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.

So Jesus is stating that love is not separate from Gods' law it is expressed in obedience to Gods' law and why we need a new heart to obey Gods' law.

Paul follows the same line of thinking as Jesus and that has been expressed here that love is expressed in obedience to Gods' law not by breaking Gods' law when he says in Romans 13:8-10 [8], Owe no man anything, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW. [9], For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

No need to guess what law Paul is talking about here. He is agreeing with what Jesus says in Matthew 22:36-40 when Jesus said "On these two great commandments of love to God and man hang all the law and the prophets." Paul is talking about the 10 commandments and showing that love is expressed in obedience to Gods law not by breaking Gods' law.

What about James....?

James2:8-12 [8], If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well: [9], But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. [10], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
[11], FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW. [12], So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about agreeing with both Jesus and Paul when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus. Paul and James all agree that they are saying that love is expressed through obedience to God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

John agrees with Jesus, Paul and James when he defines what he means by love...

1 John 5:2-3 [2], BY THIS WE KNOW THAT WE LOVE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, WHEN WE LOVE GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS [3], FOR THE IS THE LOVE OF GOD, THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: and his commandments are not grievous.

2 John 1:6 AND THIS IS LOVE THAT WE WALK AFTER HIS COMMANDMENTS. This is the commandment, That, as you have heard FROM THE BEGINNING, you should walk in it.

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According to the scriptures no one loves God by breaking his commandments as love is expressed through obedience to God's law (10 commandments) not by breaking God's law. According to the scriptures those who break Gods commandments have neither seen God or no God according to 1 John 2:3-4 and sin which is defined in the scriptures as breaking anyone of God's 10 commandments or not believing and following God's Word (see James 2:10-11; 1 John 3:4; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20) is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil according to John in 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14 and 1 John 2:3-4. Therefore teaching a doctrine of lawlessness or love that is separate from God's law is simply not biblical and not the same gospel that Jesus and the Apostles taught. Now what is it here in the scriptures that have been shared with you that you disagree with and why?

Hope this is helpful.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If one is going to keep the Mosaic Law they need to keep ALL of the Mosaic Law.

For example: The Galatians believers thought they had to be circumcised (much like the Sabbatarians think they need to keep the Sabbath). In other words, what folks need to realize is if we keep one aspect of the Old Law, we need to keep the whole Law.

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.” (Galatians 5:3).

That claim is not true at all. The reason why is very simply, we are in the new covenant now not the old covenant. Do you know the difference between the Mosaic "shadow laws" for remission of sins outlined in Hebrews 7 to Hebrews 10 and God's eternal law (the 10 commandments) and what the physical sign of circumcision represents? This is not the same as God's 10 commandments in the new covenant that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; James 2:10-11? As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing but the keeping of the commandments of God. The physical sign of circumcision is not one of God's 10 commandments it is a "shadow law" of a new heart through faith (see Deuteronomy 30:6; Jeremiah 30:6; Deuteronomy 10:16; Romans 2:27-28). Your mixing up the Mosaic "shadow law" that point to Jesus and God's plan of salvation in the new covenant as circumcision with Gods' eternal law (the 10 commandments) that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

Hope this is helpful.

 

[HIM]

Second, the sabbath is implied as an ordinance when reading Isaiah 58:2, and Isaiah 58:13.

No it is not. The Subject of the chapter is God's people's sins and transgressions. It is established in verse 1.

Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

The ordinances in verse 2 are judgements. It is Mishpat in the Hebrew. Never is it used in reference to the Ten or any enactment, statute or law pertaining to morality. Below is the definition of the word in question and the 4o occurrences Isaiah uses it. Most of the time it translated judgement. You also might want to consider The KJV used the word ordinance one other time in their translation of Isaiah. It was used to translate the Hebrew word choq NOT mishpat. It is also posted below with it's definition.


chôq
BDB Definition:
1) statute, ordinance, limit, something prescribed, due
1a) prescribed task
1b) prescribed portion
1c) action prescribed (for oneself), resolve
1d) prescribed due
1e) prescribed limit, boundary
1f) enactment, decree, ordinance
1f1) specific decree
1f2) law in general
1g) enactments, statutes
1g1) conditions
1g2) enactments
1g3) decrees
1g4) civil enactments prescribed by God
Part of Speech: noun masculine

Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

מִשְׁפָּט
mishpâṭ
BDB Definition:
1) judgment, justice, ordinance
1a) judgment
1a1) act of deciding a case
1a2) place, court, seat of judgment
1a3) process, procedure, litigation (before judges)
1a4) case, cause (presented for judgment)
1a5) sentence, decision (of judgment)
1a6) execution (of judgment)
1a7) time (of judgment)
1b) justice, right, rectitude (attributes of God or man)
1c) ordinance
1d) decision (in law)
1e) right, privilege, due (legal)
1f) proper, fitting, measure, fitness, custom, manner, plan
Part of Speech: noun masculine

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Isa 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
Isa 1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
Isa 3:14 The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.
Isa 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
Isa 5:7 For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
Isa 5:16 But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Isa 10:2 To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!
Isa 16:5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.
Isa 26:8 Yea, in the way of thy judgments, O LORD, have we waited for thee; the desire of our soul is to thy name, and to the remembrance of thee.
Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Isa 28:6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.
Isa 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
Isa 28:26 For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.
Isa 30:18 And therefore will the LORD wait, that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him.
Isa 32:1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
Isa 32:7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
Isa 32:16 Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
Isa 33:5 The LORD is exalted; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with judgment and righteousness.
Isa 34:5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
Isa 40:14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?
Isa 40:27 Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God?
Isa 41:1 Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.
Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Isa 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
Isa 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
Isa 49:4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
Isa 50:8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.
Isa 51:4 Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

Isa 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the judgement of their God: they ask of me the judgements of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.



Isa 59:8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
Isa 59:9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
Isa 59:11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
Isa 59:14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
Isa 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
Isa 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Again, it is highly unlikely to conclude that John was referring to the Saturday Sabbath when he said the “Lord's day” in Revelation 1:10. Why would John refer to the Sabbath in some kind of code word? He simply would have simply said Sabbath if it was the weekly Saturday Sabbath.

It does not even make any sense that the Lord's day would be the weekly Sabbath because the Sabbath was made for man and man was not made for the Sabbath. The Lord's day is a day we honor Christ's death with the breaking of the bread and in in drinking of the cup of the Lord.

Lord's supper, Lord's table, cup of the Lord.... Lord's day.
The disciples broke bread on the first day of the week (Sunday).
The Lord's supper involves breaking bread and drinking of the cup of the Lord.

Again.... this is the Lord's day.

This is really reading into scripture and I would not recommend doing that becuase there is too much at stake. There is no scripture that says the first day is the Lord's day. Nothing in scripture showing God blessed the first day. Nothing in scripture that said God sanctified the first day. Nothing in scripture where God told us to hallow the first day. Nothing in scripture where God told us to rest the first day. Nothing in scripture that tells us to keep holy the first day. Nothing in scripture that says the holy day of the Lord is the first day. Nothing in scripture God told us to Remember the first day. Nothing in scripture telling us it is a sign between God and His people when hallowing the first day.. Nothing in scripture that says we are sanctified by keeping the first day. Nothing in scripture showing Jesus going to the Temple on the first day as it was His custom. Nothing in scripture saying the first day was made for us. These are all reserved for the seventh day which is God's holy day and Sabbath.

YET you want to deny these scriptures to make your tradition fit when Jesus warned us of this very thing. Matthew 15:3-9

Your argument is with the Most High because these are the Word's of our Savior who has the authority to deem the Holy day for Himself and mankind which plainly He did. From the beginning to the end, God's holy Sabbath day is unchanged to God and His saints. God has invited you too to keep His holy His Sabbath day. You can continue with your tradition or obey the commandment of God. Right now its not too late...

Genesis 2 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Exodus 20: 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight The holy day of the Lord honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words, (how can you possibly argue the Lord's day is the first day when this makes it so clear which is the Lords day)

Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”

Jesus claimed His day and its consistent from the beginning of time until forever as promised Exodus 31:16

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.


Jesus said For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Heaven and earth has not passed and Jesus goes on to say: 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

Getting the day right as you can see from the very Words of our Savior is vital. There are more than one Sabbath in the bible and there is a sabbath that is an ordinance (the annual sabbath (s) festivals, which is about food and drink) God's saints knows Col 2:14 is not referring to the holy day of the Lord thy God not only does it not fit the context, this verse does not wipe out the only day God blessed in the bible. Once God blesses something it cannot be undone. Behold, I have received a command to bless; He has blessed, and I cannot reverse it. Numbers 23:20

God bless!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Thank you to those for staying on topic.

But I am moving on from this discussion. Not interested in my thread being spammed with SDA walls of texts that I am not even remotely interested in reading. This thread is about the Lord’s day in Revelation 1:10 and why you think with Scripture that it is that day and this thread is NOT about the SDAs or Sabbatarians’ promotion of the weekly Saturday Sabbath command.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

While I was willing to indulge some side discussion on the Sabbath command this thread is not primarily about that. This thread is primarily about your view of the Lord’s day in Revelation 1:10 and why you think that is the case with Scripture.

Please do not spam my thread anymore with walls of text on an off topic discussion.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

While I was willing to indulge some side discussion on the Sabbath command this thread is not primarily about that. This thread is primarily about your view of the Lord’s day in Revelation 1:10 and why you think that is the case with Scripture.

Please do not spam my thread anymore with walls of text on an off topic discussion.

This has been the topic of the discussion and everything shared with you has been though scripture. The holy day of the Lord i.e. "Lords day" is the seventh day according to our Creator and Savior Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13, Mark 2:28. Since you have yet to provide any biblical scripture that shows the first day is the Lords day or God's chosen holy day we can go by your word or we can go by what is written and God's Word. You can't accuse us of spamming when you are engaging with us and do not have an argument based on scripture regarding the topic of this thread, otherwise I am sure you would have posted it by now. Hopefully something to consider in prayer. God bless.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

This has been the topic of the discussion and everything shared with you has been though scripture. The holy day of the Lord i.e. "Lords day" is the seventh day according to our Creator and Savior Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13, Mark 2:28. Since you have yet to provide any biblical scripture that shows the first day is the Lords day or God's chosen holy day we can go by your word or we can go by what is written and God's Word. You can't accuse us of spamming when you are engaging with us and do not have an argument based on scripture regarding the topic of this thread, otherwise I am sure you would have posted it by now. Hopefully something to consider in prayer. God bless.

Yes, I was aware of your last post (that was on topic) before. But I was not referring to your last post. I was referring to other posters and I was merely informing them to stay on topic.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, I was aware of your last post. But I was not referring to your last post. I was referring to other posters and I was merely informing them to stay on topic.

From what I can see, most of the posters are responding to what was being posted.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

From what I can see, most of the posters are responding to what was being posted.

No. There many book length reply type posts with solely a Sabbath command agenda being promoted to my decently sized posts on how the weekly Sabbath is no longer a command under the New Testament. For there is no excuse to receive book length replies (post after post) spamming up my thread on an off topic discussion. I don’t mind some disagreement with a few verses on a side discussion, but a spamming of my thread with walls of text post after post is like an unwanted commercial popping in for a long time. It would be like a solicitor who keeps ringing your doorbell and who will not go away and they cram your mail box full of their offers that you don’t want.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No. There many book length reply type posts with solely a Sabbath command agenda being promoted to my decently sized posts on how the weekly Sabbath no longer being a command. For there is no excuse to receive book length replies spamming up my thread on an off topic discussion. I don’t mind some disagreement with a few verses on a side discussion, but a spamming of my thread with walls of text post after post is like an unwanted commercial popping in for a long time. It would be like a solicitor who does not go away and they cram your mail box full of their offers that you don’t want.

From what I can see of the SDA's posting, seems like a lot of scriptures being posted in replies to other off topic posts. I personally would not describe scriptures the way you do, even if you do not agree with them. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[BobRyan]

Is 66:23 says that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL mankind come before Me to worship"

Interesting that given that Isaiah is the one writing and his readers are Jews - you can see how they might think that "From Sabbath to Sabbath" is speaking about the Sabbath that they know to be in the Ten Commandments.

We agree that we are not yet in the New Earth - however (Exegesis and so then "context again") - Isaiah and his readers would also know that -

1. Isaiah and his readers already ARE coming together for worship from Sabbath to Sabbath.
2. The term “Sabbath” has a very specific meaning to Isaiah and his readers not merely the more ambiguous “weekly”.
3. The entire world, all-mankind- is not joining them in that Sabbath after Sabbath observance as of that Isaiah 66 writing or as of today.
4. They are not living in the New Earth yet
5. The gentiles were just singled out for Sabbath keeping back in Isaiah 56:6

So the Is 66:23 text shows that Sabbath observance is valid for all eternity after the cross - INSTEAD of "Sabbath deleted at the cross" -

So when we read "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19 cannot be assumed to mean "just the nine commandments since the Sabbath is deleted at the cross".

Rather the unit of TEN having “honor your father and mother as the first commandment with a promise” Eph 6:2 – still remains valid in the N.T.

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While I was willing to indulge some side discussion on the Sabbath command this thread is not primarily about that. This thread is primarily about your view of the Lord’s day in Revelation 1:10 and why you think that is the case with Scripture.

Given the Sabbath-continued for all eternity doctrine of Is 66:23 - then we have "The Lord's Day" texts

1. Isaiah 58:13
“If, because of the Sabbath, you restrain your foot
From doing as you wish on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a pleasure, and The Holy Day of the LORD (YHWH) honorable,
And honor it, desisting from your own ways,
From seeking your own pleasure
And speaking your own word,

2. Mark 2:28 "The Son of Man is LORD of the Sabbath"

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By contrast

we have no "call week-day-1 the Holy Day of the Lord"
we have no "Son of Man is LORD of week-day-1"
we have no "week day 1 is the Lord's day"

at all in scripture.

 

[BobRyan]

If one is going to keep the Mosaic Law they need to keep ALL of the Mosaic Law.

Is this the response we expect whenever "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 is to be quoted?

In James 2-- James does not make the argument "if you want the freedom to murder and commit adultery then first make sure you are not keeping any of the Mosaic Law". Even the most cursory reading of James 2 makes this point abundantly clear to the reader.

8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. 10 For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a violator of the Law

Even in the NT "SIN is transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4

In Matt 19 Christ said "keep the Commandments" and when asked "which ones" He quotes exclusively from "the Law of Moses".

In Mark 7:7-13 when Christ slam hammers the man-made-tradition of the day for opposing the Word of God - (sola scriptura hammering at that) -- He only quotes from the Law of Moses to make His case.

 

[BobRyan]

If one is going to keep the Mosaic Law they need to keep ALL of the Mosaic Law.

For example: The Galatians believers thought they had to be circumcised (much like the Sabbatarians think they need to keep the Sabbath).

The flaw in that argument is that bible scholars on BOTH sides of the Sabbath debate in almost ALL Christian denominations freely admit that all TEN of the TEN Commandments remain valid and included in the moral law of God written on the heart under the New Covenant.

You have framed your own argument in such a way as to oppose Bible scholarship on BOTH sides of the debate and then appear to try and re-position as if you are only opposing "Sabbatarians". Were we simply not supposed to notice how D.L. Moody, C.H.Spurgeon, The Baptist Confession of Faith, the Westminster Confession of Faith etc - all are in opposition to your claims at this point?

 

[BobRyan]

Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law (even before the cross):

On the contrary He specifically condemns the idea of accusing him of doing such a thing in Matt 5.

Matt 5:
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Rom 3: "31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."

(Which means He was not teaching primarily Old Covenant, but New Covenant):

The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"
(Matthew 5:38 cf. Exodus 21:23-25).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39).

1. New Covenant - is OLD Testament - Jer 31:31-34
2. New Covenant - is UNCHANGED verbatim in New Testament - Heb 8:6-12
3. New Covenant - writes the "Law of God" known to Jeremiah and his readers "on heart and mind" Jer 31:31-34.
4. The LAW of God written on the heart includes that unit of TEN having "honor your father and mother as the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2
5. The example you gave is an example of Christ expanding and enlarging the requirement - not setting it aside or ignoring it.
6. When Christ said "keep the Commandments" in Matt 19 he is asked "which ones" and then quotes exclusively from the Law of Moses.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

On the contrary He specifically condemns the idea of accusing him of doing such a thing in Matt 5.

Matt 5:
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Rom 3: "31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law."



1. New Covenant - is OLD Testament - Jer 31:31-34
2. New Covenant - is UNCHANGED verbatim in New Testament - Heb 8:6-12
3. New Covenant - writes the "Law of God" known to Jeremiah and his readers "on heart and mind" Jer 31:31-34.
4. The LAW of God written on the heart includes that unit of TEN having "honor your father and mother as the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2
5. The example you gave is an example of Christ expanding and enlarging the requirement - not setting it aside or ignoring it.
6. When Christ said "keep the Commandments" in Matt 19 he is asked "which ones" and then quotes exclusively from the Law of Moses.

I am moving on from this discussion with you and other Sabbatarians. You appear to see only the Sabbath in everything when the faith that the Bible I read is all about Jesus Christ and in living for Him. For I have already demonstrated that the word “sabbath” by a recent Bible study is not in the way that SDA’s desire it to be in the New Testament.

The topic of discussion of this thread is the Lord’s day in Revelation 1:10 and what you think that is with Scripture, and this thread is not about the pushing of the Sabbatarians unhealthy over emphasis of the weekly Sabbath command.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Friendly reminder: Please stop promoting the Sabbath command in this thread. I will no longer discuss that topic. This thread is about explaining what you think the Lord’s day is in Revelation 1:10. Please. No multiple consecutive posts and or book length answers or walls of text promoting the Sabbath command. That is not what this thread is about. I am not even remotely interested in reading long posts in defense of the Sabbath from Sabbatarians. State your reasons for what you believe Revelation 1:10 is talking about alone and try to keep your posts as short, and brief as possible.

Please do not continue to disrupt my thread with an off topic discussion that I am not interested in discussing anymore. For I might have stuck with you if you gave me a short one time small post, but once the multiple posts start, that is where the thread starts to become derailed. So please. No more.