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As usual,as per line one,you are getting personal,the sign of one loosing a debate. The jews still are stiffnecked,according to Stephen.
I am not getting personal and how can I be losing a debate that for one, I am not in, but two, you aren't even responding to what I write to you.

Again another one with the ill respect of G-ds word to reduce it to a win/loose situation.

If you are speaking of the Stephen who was stoned in the Book of Acts he was speaking of those Jews of that day, including the most eminent present, your friend Paul who oversaw this murder.
 
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So then they are bad and they kill you if they are written in stone by G-ds hand, but are good and bring life if written on your heart.

So if they are written on your heart that would mean you have no trouble keeping them, right? Yet how can something that no longer exists be written anywhere? If they are done away with, nailed to the cross, etc, it seems to be by pure logic that there is nothing to write on your heart???
 
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am not getting personal and how can I be losing a debate that for one, I am not in, but two, you aren't even responding to what I write to you.

Again another one with the ill respect of G-ds word to reduce it to a win/loose situation.

ah, such delicious irony.

If you are speaking of the Stephen who was stoned in the Book of Acts he was speaking of those Jews of that day, including the most eminent present, your friend Paul who oversaw this murder.

yes it was? And?
 
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And received their due recompense

Acts 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon and saying, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit"

Reve 16:21 And great Hail as talent-weight is descending out of the Heaven upon the men and blaspheme the God the men out of the blow of the Hail, that great is the blow of it, tremendous.
[Ezekiel 38:22]
 
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Yeah thats why when Jesus said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

John 8:52 Then said the Jews unto him, NOW WE KNOW that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

They couldnt discern between the two trees, the tree of life (= live for ever) Jesus Christ and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (thou shalt die) they saw Jesus as the Serpent (saying NOW WE KNOW thou hast a devil) for he said, "if a man keep my saying, he shall never taste death".

They were also looking at it after the flesh (dead bodies) not seeing they were already dead (after a spiritual truth) not after a carnal one.
 
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People who believe that they keep all of God's commands are only fooling themselves. The first time you get mad because you get cut off in traffic, or get angry at your spouse, look down the slightest bit at a person because of their skin color or the clothes that they wear, or one of a million different things things that we might do which causes us not to love our neighbor or enemy, then you failed to live by God's commands.

That is why we have the one who fulfilled the Law for us as our fulfillment. Jesus gave us the command to love and by loving, we fulfill the Law. When we have mercy, God has mercy on us.

It is not about obeying the 10, it is about loving.
 
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So then they are bad and they kill you if they are written in stone by G-ds hand, but are good and bring life if written on your heart.

No one said that they were bad. Not sure where you got that from my post.

So if they are written on your heart that would mean you have no trouble keeping them, right?

LOL!!! No one could keep them when they were written in stone. Read the history of Israel. I am grateful and in awe that Jesus would save a wretched sinner like me. Grace is indeed the good news of the gospel.



Yet how can something that no longer exists be written anywhere?

Who said that they do not exist? Jesus himself said that not one jot of the law would pass away.

If they are done away with, nailed to the cross, etc, it seems to be by pure logic that there is nothing to write on your heart??

That would be true if the penalty of the law had not been fully paid by Jesus sacrifice but as we know and the scripture teaches, He paid the price in full.
 
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....... including the most eminent present, your friend Paul who oversaw this murder.

He is not your friend? Do you reject the God ordained apostle to the gentiles? Do you consider Paul's epistles God breathed scripture?
 
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So what anybody can post scripture. What is your point?

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How does someone "made without sin" sin?
 
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Well, I haven't murdered anyone yet
yet?:o
 
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Yes,true liberty comes from the Spirit.
 
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your most eminent moses and david were murderers too.
 
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Originally Posted by Frogster
your most eminent moses and david were murderers too.
Didn't one of the prophets have bears come and kill children for mocking him?


http://www.scripture4all.org/

Hosea 13:8 I shall meet them as a bear bereaved of her whelps, and will rend enclosure of their heart; and I shall devour them there as a great-lion, animal of the field she shall rend them
[Daniel 7:5/Revelation 13:2]

Romans 2:23 Who in law are boasting through the transgression of the Law, the God thou are dishonoring
24 'For the name of the God because of ye, is being blasphemed in the nations', according as it has been written.
[Psalm 74:10]

Reve 13:2 And the beast I saw was like a leopard, and the feet of it as of bear, and the mouth of it as mouth of lion. And gives to it, the dragon, the power of him and the throne of him and great authority.
[Hosea 3:8/Daniel 7:5]
 
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Which Scripture do you disagree with? It's all Scripture. If you take God's name in vain, you will pay for it. When the Spirit of the Lord is within you, you are empowered to obey His Word/His law.



Which would not be in "letter" only, but IN SPIRIT, right? Not just do not kill, but do not even hate your brother, right?
 
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Didn't one of the prophets have bears come and kill children for mocking him?


Yeah, Forty-two of them (little children) and two she bears I wonder what the significance of that is..?
 
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Jesus said, "If ye love Me, Keep My commandments." John 14:15.

Jesus said, "He that hath My commandments and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him." John 14:21.

"By this we know that we love the children of God (Lev 19:18), when we love God (Deut 6:5) and keep His commandments. FOR THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS; and His commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:2,3.
 
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Originally Posted by Lulav
....... including the most eminent present, your friend Paul who oversaw this murder.
He is not your friend? Do you reject the God ordained apostle to the gentiles? Do you consider Paul's epistles God breathed scripture?

Notice what the Judeans tried to do to Paul in Acts 23 after he was "converted" by Jesus

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Matt 23:34 "Because of this behold! I am commissioning toward ye Prophets and Wisemen and Scribes. Out of them ye shall be killing/apokteneite <615> (5692) and ye shall be crucifying. And out of them ye shall be scourging in the Synagogues of ye and ye shall be persecuting/persuing from city into city"
[Matt 24:9]

John 7:1 And after these, Jesus was walking in the Galilee, for not He willed in the Judea to be walking, that the Judeans sought Him to kill/apokteinai <615> (5658).

Acts 23:14 Who-any toward coming to the Chief-priests and to the Elders say "to-anathema we anathematize ourselves of no yet nothing to taste till of which we may be killing/apokteinwmen <615> (5725) Paul."
 
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