Confirmed by the Hubble telescope in this century, yet mentioned in Psalms and Isaiah.
Hmm, boys,Now, when was Genesis written? Thousands of years before Christ, or in DNA itself was discovered this century.
So why the King James version? What changes did King James make that you feel makes the King James Version better then the version before King James changed the Bible?Atheists have their King James Version as well -- did you know that?
Then he is being effective. God wants people in or out. He does not want luke warm fense sitters. It may come as a surprise to some people that God is knocking at the door.If anything, I am further from religion today than I was when I started reading his posts
Some diamond this is, very pretty indeed:"This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die." Deuteronomy 21:18-21.
There is no record of anyone ever stoning their son. But you may want to look into this story:
32While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.” 36So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses. Numbers 15
This is the law & we live in the Age of Grace. Jesus said "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." He also said: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
Then he is being effective. God wants people in or out. He does not want luke warm fense sitters. It may come as a surprise to some people that God is knocking at the door.
Was that heaven or hell where these "80 virgins" well be waiting for them?You might as well tell me there will be 80 virgins waiting for me in the afterlife, it would make no difference.
We were told that you help people to discover truth for themselves.God is also not willing that any should perish. It isn't enough or obedient to merely push them off the fence; you gotta push them to the right side.
How can that be when there are seven dispensations?If your dispensationalism is really a sound Christian principle, I can use it to completely dismiss the 7 day creation myth (just like you use it to dismiss the parts of the Bible you don't agree with).
We were told that you help people to discover truth for themselves.
I do not know if it would do any good to push them.
1 Corinthians 9:19: “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.”
So why the King James version? What changes did King James make that you feel makes the King James Version better then the version before King James changed the Bible?
I'll answer this question the way I've seen others answer it:So why the King James version? What changes did King James make that you feel makes the King James Version better then the version before King James changed the Bible?
This is correct -- the King James Version is the default version for today.I really do wonder the same thing. AVET likes to point to the continulty of the KJV with earlier versions, but then claims if there is a difference between the KJV and earlier versions, then the KJV is right by default.
This is correct -- the King James Version is the default version for today.
I understand your position; but I'm a Ruckmanite when it comes to the KJV; and in fact, I believe in some pretty avant-garde things when it comes to the KJV.We live in a time when we can access not only various excellent direct translations, but there are tools for exploring the originals. The KJV is a great translation but so was the Geneva Bible and the NIV. You should also take into consideration that the KJV has went through maybe 10 revisions since 1611. Have you ever tried to get an actual KJV 1611 in print?
It's considered 'canonical' in the original. I'm not crazy about the language of the KJV because the OT gets pretty cryptic even with a modern translation. I tend to prefer the NIV for OT history but NT doctrine just sounds better in the KJV. The 22 Psalm and Romans 6 are better done in the old King James, I mean I think so. Some other passages in places like Hebrews and Leveticus are more comprehensive in the NIV.
At any rate, that's my two cents worth
Grace and peace,
Mark
For example, I believe God's main language is English, and we are all going to speak English in Heaven; and I also believe they all spoke English, until the tower of Babel put a stop to the English language.
Then he is being effective. God wants people in or out. He does not want luke warm fense sitters. It may come as a surprise to some people that God is knocking at the door.
British, again in my opinion.Absolutely amazing, not only Christianity is above all religions, but English is above all languages. Will it be spoken with an American or British accent?
Absolutely amazing, not only Christianity is above all religions, but English is above all languages. Will it be spoken with an American or British accent?
I understand your position; but I'm a Ruckmanite when it comes to the KJV; and in fact, I believe in some pretty avant-garde things when it comes to the KJV.
For example, I believe God's main language is English, and we are all going to speak English in Heaven; and I also believe they all spoke English, until the tower of Babel put a stop to the English language.
Moses therefore, would have had to have the assistance of translating the first part of the book of Genesis, which was written in English, into Hebrew -- (unless someone did it ahead of time, like Abraham).
And that's my 2¢ --
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