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The King James Bible

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Split Rock, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. Split Rock

    Split Rock Conflation of Blathers

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    Just thought I'd pass the word (small not capitolized!) about the cover article of National Geographic's Dec 2011 issue: "The King James Bible. Making a Masterpiece." I have the issue, but haven't read the article yet. We can all read it and then discuss!
     
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  2. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Atheists have their King James Version as well -- did you know that?

    The AV2012 McGraw-Hill.
     
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  3. Cabal

    Cabal Well-Known Member

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    Not whining about Scientific American covers or similar now though, are you?
     
  4. Cabal

    Cabal Well-Known Member

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    OT:

    Had a skim through it the other day. Seemed pretty decent. The diagram showing the evolution (haaaaar) of previous versions and which documents were used to create which version was pretty nifty.
     
  5. Split Rock

    Split Rock Conflation of Blathers

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    Really now... was that necessary? I haven't done much more (yet) than skim through the article, but there didn't seem to be anything derogatory about it... quite the opposite.
     
  6. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Sorry -- it's fixed now.
     
  7. Split Rock

    Split Rock Conflation of Blathers

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    OK. Finished reaing the article.. a few interesting tidbits:

    1. The Geneva bible was the most popular in England before the KJV, but was very anti-royal. King James VI wanted a version that was of similar quality, but not anti-monarchy.

    2. One of the purposes of the KJV was to produce a bible that was accessible to everyone, "even of the very vulgar." A very Protestant idea.

    3. The number of idiomatic phrases we get from the KJV is quite startling. Everything from "fell flat on his face," to "the skin of my teeth."

    4. It was a massive scholarly enterprise... 54 scholars of all types and expertise arranged in six subcommittees.

    5. The first printings were wrought with errors, such as "Thou shall commit adultery."
     
  8. pgp_protector

    pgp_protector Noted strange person

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    How could they have errors if the Translations were Divinely inspired?
     
  9. Split Rock

    Split Rock Conflation of Blathers

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    Apparently, the printers were not divinely inspired. ;)
     
  10. Golden Yak

    Golden Yak Not Worshipped, Far from Idle

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    Hmm, so human error can be a factor in the content of a holy book. Interesting.
     
  11. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    Psalm 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.


    God's word is compared to refined silver.

    It is melted, and the dross comes to the surface and is skimmed off.

    The King James Bible that we read today is the KJV, 5th edition.

    As Gail Riplinger puts it, God created a diamond in 1611, then polished it five times.
     
  12. Tinker Grey

    Tinker Grey Wanderer Supporter

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    Why couldn't God get it right in one go?
     
  13. juvenissun

    juvenissun ... and God saw that it was good.

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    Who said that?
    Inspired on what?
     
  14. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Get what right?
     
  15. Tinker Grey

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    I would think that anything God created wouldn't need polishing.

    That it needs polishing suggests imperfection. He didn't get it right in one shot.
     
  16. Golden Yak

    Golden Yak Not Worshipped, Far from Idle

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    By whom?
     
  17. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    This would be true if God wrote the King James Bible with His own hands; instead, He used fallen man to write It.
     
  18. Tinker Grey

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    And it took him 4 more tries to get it fixed?

    Not much of an editor, your god.
     
  19. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Okay, Tinker, enough's enough.

    The negative effect your atheism is having on your ability to understand is showing.

    If you're really serious in learning, you can familiarize yourself with verbal plenary inspiration; then learn the difference between inspiration, preservation and translation.

    You won't fully understand, but you'll come close enough (I hope) that you won't need further clarification.
     
  20. Tinker Grey

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    Perhaps you'll come to understand just how unconvincing your position is.
     
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