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So what? This is a public forum.

Why would I want to look like this:

Answering a question about evidence for a 'soul' with a question about love is sad.
It is not evidence, not argument, it is a cop out.

A concession, as admission that you've got nothing.

Hey, :p don't pick on my spelling . You were not part of the original conversation in context of that, why are you dredging up something out of context to make yourself relevant
 
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Perspective does not alter truth. Sorry.

Table salt is made of sodium and chlorine whether you like it, or want it to be, or not.

and without using "salty" can you explain to me what salt taste like assuming I've never tasted it ?
 
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A concession, as admission that you've got nothing.
You don't have a soul then?

No mind, no will, no emotions?

Maybe you know something about academians we don't, eh?
 
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and without using "salty" can you explain to me what salt taste like assuming I've never tasted it ?
You can't hear taste; unless you're experiencing sensory substitution.

Or maybe it's those strange sounds you hear coming from the school cafeteria?

(Notice I didn't say anything about Columbine, so please don't start on me about that.)
 
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and without using "salty" can you explain to me what salt taste like assuming I've never tasted it ?
Irrelevant.

Subjective perceptions of the qualities of, in this case, a compound do not alter what the components of the compound are. It is possible to empirically demonstrate what 'table salt' is, and if you think salt tastes like bubble gum, it will not alter the actual composition of table salt in any way.

That is, my ability to describe the taste of sodium chloride does not, in any way whatsoever, alter what sodium chloride is.

So tell us all what the soul IS, and how this is known empirically.
 
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Evidence please.


If you go under anesthesia and after you"wake up" the you that you are is still YOU, your consciences / essence of who you are is still there.

Those that have been clinically / medically / "officially" declared DEAD
come back and are still the same person and retain the same memories, personality. If you ARE rebootable what method has the body developed for retaining memories after being declared brain dead, yes there have been people declared brain dead that "came back" it is very rare but it has happened.
 
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So tell us all what the soul IS, and how this is known empirically.
The soul is the third part of mankind that houses the mind, the will, and the emotions.
 
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Hey, :p don't pick on my spelling . You were not part of the original conversation in context of that, why are you dredging up something out of context to make yourself relevant
An accusation that I used something out of context - interesting. You were asked a question. You answered it. I asked about/referenced your answer.

But that is 'out of context'. OK.:scratch:
 
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An accusation that I used something out of context - interesting. You were asked a question. You answered it. I asked about/referenced your answer.

But that is 'out of context'. OK.:scratch:

Were you the one I originally asked that question of ?
 
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If you go under anesthesia and after you"wake up" the you that you are is still YOU, your consciences / essence of who you are is still there.

Because that is housed in your brain, and unless your brain was damaged, then... so what?
Those that have been clinically / medically / "officially" declared DEAD
come back and are still the same person and retain the same memories, personality.
As long as the brain does not become too ischemic, then again, so what?

Also, while there are a few legitimate cases, the tall tales that we hear about in books and on talk shows are always embellished, farcical, absurd (all the ones I am familiar with, at least).
If you ARE rebootable what method has the body developed for retaining memories after being declared brain dead, yes there have been people declared brain dead that "came back" it is very rare but it has happened.
Examples please.

Real ones - not that fraud neurosurgeon that had debts to pay off and claimed to have done things that are impossible - like call out while intubated. Or that pastor's kid that was clearly coached about what to say.
 
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Too bad animals and man came after that eh?

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Totally false and based on the superstitious views of ancient men who lived thousands of years before Science. Man was made BEFORE the 5th Day on the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Genesis 1:21 IS speaking of "living animals". Do you know what a living animal is?
 
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Because that is housed in your brain, and unless your brain was damaged, then... so what?

As long as the brain does not become too ischemic, then again, so what?

Also, while there are a few legitimate cases, the tall tales that we hear about in books and on talk shows are always embellished, farcical, absurd (all the ones I am familiar with, at least).

Examples please.

Real ones - not that fraud neurosurgeon that had debts to pay off and claimed to have done things that are impossible - like call out while intubated.


I would say Clinically and completely brain dead would be pretty ischemic, wouldn't you ? If the brain is nothing more than a biological organism and it is DEAD. there is not a hard drive for the memories at that point, nothing more would be stored in the biological materials those "memories" are still somewhere. The fact that they still exist suggests there is a soul.
 
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There you go, @Aman777 , here's one of thousands of places and times you've been corrected by someone with a better understandng of the topic than you.

Thanks @dad , carry on...

You must live in Disneyland. Ole dad has you fooled with his bluster. When you don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything. Amen?
 
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That is literally not what 'out of context' means...
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Uh, yeah, if you were NOT the person I was communicating with and you pulled out a question I asked them it is breaking apart the communication in the context of it and it looses a great deal of the original meaning, you need to have the conversation before it and after it as supporting conversation for it to be in context.
 
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The soul is the third part of mankind that houses the mind, the will, and the emotions.
The limbic system is responsible for emotions, and is part of the brain, not the “soul.” Are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts, or just ignorant of them?
 
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