What verses are you particularly referring to where Jesus tells those with a dispute to listen to the church? Please list the verses and I will check them out.
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The issues with Sola Scriptura
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What did Jesus tell church leadership of the one true nation-church started by God at Sinai... in Mark 7:6-13??
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The context of that verse is not that we need to follow the church.
The context of that verse is if someone in Christ has an issue or been wronged by another the steps that one takes to resolve that conflict with another believer. The last resort of trying to mend that conflict is to go to the church body.
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I don't see how that makes sense. You said earlier that the church will always lead us and be right.
Now you are saying that you agree that the church is the last resort for sin between believers?
I'm not understanding you. Two different contexts.
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So your saying Catholicism is the only true church and that denominations are not? It seems that is what you are saying, but correct me if I am wrong.
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You are correct. Jesus starting a single Church. He has followers who are not in full communion with his Church, but only one Church because there is only one Ttuth.
John 10:16
And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
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I hate to break it to you but the two sheep that are in different sheep pens that need to both be brought into the fold together are the Jews and the Gentiles. Not a specific Christian church.
You also may want to research why we, each person is called 'the church'. Individuals who listen to the direction of and commune with God are 'the church' then you might stop thinking that anyone church is correct. When anyone puts so much faith in men who are sinners or a structure that is run by sinners (we all are, not just singling out your church. Want that to be clear), we find that are focus is on a man-made structure run by human beings, not God. Just a thought.
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That is your opinion, but it is not biblical. Are you saying all Jews were already in the sheepfold of Jesus?
Also, the problem with your theory of the Church is that it doesn't lead to truth.
A Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, Baptist, Calvinist could come to my door with all the best of intentions. They sincerely seek to know and spread God's true teachings. Unfortunately, they all are proclaiming radically different "truths". This is what you get when individuals lean on their own understanding. That's why Jesus started a single Church with a single teaching authority and told the rest of us to listen to the Church.
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Which people? Calvinists, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Adventists, or Anglicans?
You are mistaken. Jesus started a single Church with a unified authority. Anything else leads to a departure from the truth, which is what you have in protestantism as it teaches polar opposite "truths" regarding many important aspects of Christianity.
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Your saying that departure from a unified authority has created these misunderstandings yet the misunderstanding of your church has also come directly from the unified authority proclaiming things that are unbiblical.
Different interpretations of scriptures is not the same as bringing in unscriptural teachings.
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This whole protestism teaches polar opposite truths is such a lame classification. People in your church need to be told what to do by some higher authority and would rather sit back and let someone tell them who to be than ask God what He wants them to be.
You talk with such pride like your organization is all that and bag of chips. The only 'true' church. What pride for anyone to say or think that. But heh, your Pope told ya so, right?
Keep lying to yourself.
You probably can't even tell me what the Bible says about those 7 things you say Protestantism disagree's on. Yeah, your church has the truth. lol. Go check with your denomination's website and get back to me.
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Thursday
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You are merely giving your opinion. The Catholic Church believes and teaches that the bible is the word of God. To claim that the Catholic Church proclaims things that are unscriptural merely because you have a different interpretation means nothing. Why should your interpretation supersede that of a 2000 year old is quite a stretch.
We have the writings of the early Christians to help us understand what the apostles taught and how they interpreted the gospel. They agree with the Church and disagree with you.
You have no teaching authority. Like all protestants, you are leaning on your own understanding.
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