The idol equality

[Creech]

Ah I knew you were talking about black people. Racism is evil.

Explain how my statement was racist.

 

[kevinmaynard]

Explain how my statement was racist.

Saying that black people getting equality is the reason for the failure of Detroit, and that Jim Crow is the reason for success in Atlanta is racist. So your racist statement is racist.

 

[Creech]

Saying that black people getting equality is the reason for the failure of Detroit, and that Jim Crow is the reason for success in Atlanta is racist. So your racist statement is racist.

What post did I say that?

 

[kevinmaynard]

What post did I say that?

Many indeed many, and they are racist. Really you should stop with the racism. Racism isn't Christian, and certainly has nothing to do with love. At least you make it obvious what you think, and the true emotion in your heart.

 

[jayem]

After Reconstruction, equality was definitely rejected in the South and remained very prosperous.

Horsefeathers. The South was largely dirt-poor and backwards for a good 80 years after the war. The Great Depression hit the South every bit as hard as the midwest Dustbowl. Major portions of the South didn't even have electricity until the TVA was created in the 1930s. It wasn't until the early 60s (after Civil Rights legislation was passed)that the South began its economic and population growth. Though it can be argued that air conditioning--which made life tolerable--was more responsible for the "New South" than anything else.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

Many indeed many, and they are racist. Really you should stop with the racism. Racism isn't Christian, and certainly has nothing to do with love. At least you make it obvious what you think, and the true emotion in your heart.

Obviously he wasn't talking about black people he was talking about plack Beople.

 

[Avniel]

Allow me to restate, giving equality into an ignorant and poor populace breeds more ignorance and poverty and the collapse of civilization.

The opposite is oppression of people that are seen as poor and ignorant. I am in the top 1% as far as incomes goes, my father is in the top 1% most of my family falls into the top 10%. You are simple repeating what Malcolm X was saying what Huey P. Newton were saying. The economic reality is that you can not gain equality legally it has to be an economic force behind a community. That is why the bus boycotts worked so well.

I had a professor that wrote a book on the African Diaspora say in a class one of the most destructive historical events in the black community was the civil rights act. Morally and ethically perhaps it made sense to have legislation that protected the rights of americans citizens however to assimilate a community as young as the black american community certainly will bring about problems. This is part of the reason the black community still hasn't healed as expeditiously as it could have.

Socially there is a identity crisis in the black community. Currently the black community mirrors itself off of the media. Negative images portrayed to younger males in particular the children that lack fathers creates a sense of belonging. If more time was given between slavery where men were separated from their children perhaps there would be more fathers in the home. Which in theory would be a better stimuli to deter criminals from social deviance. By the time the community received an economic foundation to demand equality there would be a place for positive male fathers in the community which in many circumstances there is not.

Education I kind of agree with what Booker T Washington was saying. Every generation has to do better then the prior generation. Before the civil rights act blacks were starting to gain way with the construction of HBCUs and the number of black professionals in the rise. Not only that but how many of those that went to schools like Tuskegee and learned a trade would then send their children off to college to learn a profession?

With social programs that cater to generations of poverty stricken families living in the same project buildings using their EBT card in a bartering system. Only promotes more poverty, less education, more crime, less fathers(because the government supports single mothers not married people that are struggling) and a continuation of a slavery mentality.

The currently there are those blacks that proceed to great things however there are many that do not. The smartest, the strongest and the most determined make it out of poverty while the rest just repeat the cycle.

A good example is police brutality

Police brutality
If more black men and women had the money and the power to get excellent attorneys a police officer would think twice about esculate a situation into violence. Every time the police department goes to court that is a loss for the state. There would certainly be policy changes, out of nothing more then fear of loss of profits.


However slowly but surely the black community is discovering an identity we have more black men in college than jail now. However it could have been done at a faster pace.

I love the black community and I do work there, I talk to children about college, I have put some kids that lack fathers in through college. At the very least the civil rights act wasn't done in the best interest of the community it was driven by the same big business that runs the country now.

 

[Redac]

Explain how my statement was racist.

It's really not that hard to figure out who you're talking about, Creech.

 

[cow451]

I don't think an uneducated, ignorant, and immoral person should have the same say in government as someone who is more educated, moral, and decent. That's why I am against equality. That's why equality killed cities like Detroit.

You said "an unequal people", which means you are referring to a class or group of people. You not courageous enough to name the group of people. And your stance is definitely out of synch with American law.

Maybe you'd like the old South Africa better, but it is gone.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

"Race mixing" is bad, George Wallace is a good example of a true conservative, giving equal rights to an unequal population that is ignorant and immoral is a bad idea, the Black community is filled with criminals, reconstruction was bad but thankfully the South went back to rejecting equality after that, person expresses concern about Black people teaching white kids, .... [ Check out post history if you don't believe me] What populace could a person who posts ideas like that possible be talking about?

I understand conservatives like to give other conservatives charged with saying racist things the benefit of the doubt because they worry about improper use of the term for partisan reasons (yeah, it happens now and then) but this is just so blatant that I hope they might finally make an exception. If they don't I would begin to question if they aren't just giving the wink to racism themselves. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to add things up. The signs aren't even subtle anymore.

 

[Joykins]

Allow me to restate, giving equality into an ignorant and poor populace breeds more ignorance and poverty and the collapse of civilization.

True equality would give education and economic opportunity to an "ignorant and poor populace."

 

[morningstar2651]

Your freedom ends when it infringes upon someone else's freedom. It's a pretty basic part of living in society that you have to play well with others.

That's not a hard concept, is it?

You can't murder someone because that infringes upon their right to life. You can't steal from someone because that infringes upon their right to property. Likewise, they can't do the same to you.

 

[Joykins]

Explain how my statement was racist.

After Reconstruction, equality was definitely rejected in the South and remained very prosperous.

After Reconstruction, equality was definitely rejected in the South and [white people] remained very prosperous.

And even that's...at best, arguable. Even now, the deep south is kind of like the 3rd world of the US.

 

[morningstar2651]

Saying that black people getting equality is the reason for the failure of Detroit, and that Jim Crow is the reason for success in Atlanta is racist. So your racist statement is racist.

What post did I say that?

These posts.

I don't think an uneducated, ignorant, and immoral person should have the same say in government as someone who is more educated, moral, and decent. That's why I am against equality. That's why equality killed cities like Detroit.

After Reconstruction, equality was definitely rejected in the South and remained very prosperous.

 

[morningstar2651]

Explain how my statement was racist.

Creech, I've looked through your posting history noticed that a lot of your posts involve you defending your posts as not being racist.

Non-racist statements aren't frequently confused for racist statements...if you spend a lot of time defending yourself from accusations of racism, maybe you should re-examine what you've been saying. There has to be a reason this subject comes up so frequently when you participate in discussions.

If a lot of people point out that a lot of the stuff you post is racist...maybe it is?

 

[Creech]

True equality would give education and economic opportunity to an "ignorant and poor populace."

What order do you think is better?

Is it better to educate the ignorant first and then give them voting privileges?

Or is it better to give the ignorant say in government and then hope that they will seek that better education?

The 2nd option has been tried and failed miserably.

 

[Creech]

Creech, I've looked through your posting history noticed that a lot of your posts involve you defending your posts as not being racist.

Non-racist statements aren't frequently confused for racist statements...if you spend a lot of time defending yourself from accusations of racism, maybe you should re-examine what you've been saying. There has to be a reason this subject comes up so frequently when you participate in discussions.

If a lot of people point out that a lot of the stuff you post is racist...maybe it is?

Define racism. I am all in favor of recognizing and respecting the different races, cultures, and heritages of the world of all colors. I also do not advocate for a superiority of any race and I do not advocate that one race should dominate another by default.

It's sad that I even have to mention that, but I suppose it's now necessary.

 

[Joykins]

What order do you think is better?

Is it better to educate the ignorant first and then give them voting privileges?

Or is it better to give the ignorant say in government and then hope that they will seek that better education?

The 2nd option has been tried and failed miserably.

I'm saying we need to distribute educational resources to areas which are in need, because we already have societal consensus that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Meaning that the adult governed get to vote. So we have to educate everyone, yes, even the ones who aren't white and smart and middle to upper class already.

 

[Joykins]

Define racism. I am all in favor of recognizing and respecting the different races, cultures, and heritages of the world of all colors. I also do not advocate for a superiority of any race and I do not advocate that one race should dominate another by default.

It's sad that I even have to mention that, but I suppose it's now necessary.

Well, you were the one advocating for a Jim Crow southern society as an ideal prosperous society (because, apparently "unequality" was chosen), so I guess you made your bed and all.

 

[Creech]

Well, you were the one advocating for a Jim Crow southern society as an ideal prosperous society (because, apparently "unequality" was chosen), so I guess you made your bed and all.

I do not advocate for a Jim Crow society whatsoever. I only pointed that out in the South, inequality produced a more productive and successful civilization. It goes without saying there was also many flaws flaws and inhumane abuses.