the guilty man wanting to separate

[visionary]

Pray... Work with God on changing you. .. No matter what the future brings... be at peace with God. .. allow Him to work on the outcome.

 

[pepper1]

She was verbally abusive b4 I began looking at porn. Long before.

I would think porn is the most likely step following sexual neglect, how is he suppose to meet his sexual needs when the church frown on divorce and enables women to refuse it really does put men in a corner. After a while he will turn his back on both his wife (divorce) and the chruch, the important thing is he does not turn his back on God, both the wife and the chruch denying him his sexual needs is ungodly and evil and they should both be treated as wolves in sheeps clothing for putting him in a catch 22 situation.

 

[visionary]

I would think porn is the most likely step following sexual neglect, how is he suppose to meet his sexual needs when the church frown on divorce and enables women to refuse it really does put men in a corner. After a while he will turn his back on both his wife (divorce) and the chruch, the important thing is he does not turn his back on God, both the wife and the chruch denying him his sexual needs is ungodly and evil and they should both be treated as wolves in sheeps clothing for putting him in a catch 22 situation.

sounds like you can relate.

 

[pepper1]

sounds like you can relate.

Your point....

 

[Macx]

how is he suppose to meet his sexual needs when the church frown on divorce and enables women to refuse it

If you are the last one to laugh at the joke. . .. but seriously what is this need you speak of?

 

[DZoolander]

If you are the last one to laugh at the joke. . .. but seriously what is this need you speak of?

I'll take a potshot at this one... I've always wanted to get in on this debate - but rarely have the time (or come in too late after everyone's taken it in the wrong direction...IMHO).

Men have a biological imperative to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Understand - I'm not saying "a need to have sex" - or a "need to touch" - I'm talking about a need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Your body produces it - and it needs to go somewhere.

The most common ways of ridding yourself of accumulated sperm is through either sex, or masturbation. Even those that choose to do neither will most likely end up expelling it unwillingly/unconsciously via nocturnal emissions.. Some can train themselves - with a great deal of effort (and discomfort) to go so long without any form of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] that it's simply reabsorbed into the body.

However - whichever means is utilized - it doesn't change the fact that you can pretty much say that [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (ridding yourself of unused sperm and sperm) is akin to urination. They're both biological facts that can't be avoided.

Now, for all intents and purposes, the church pretty much teaches men that any form of expelling of sperm outside of "into your wife's vaginal cavity" is a grave sin. Heck - when I was growing up in a Lutheran church - we were taught that all sexual sin (including masturbation) was second only to murder in terms of severity.

So far as the church is concerned - a man's only righteous courses of action are to either hop around like a Mexican hopping bean in sexual frustration until the shameful nocturnal emission occurs - or he can somehow (through some bizarre tantric exercise most likely) train his body to not [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] at all and re-absorb it - or find a vagina to marry in order to find a place to deposit it.

That's pretty much the crux of it. Any other way of handling the need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is to be met with shame.

...and cruising around this board (and seeing how many Christian men seem to view their own needs) - that message is pretty loud and clear.

 

[pepper1]

I'll take a potshot at this one... I've always wanted to get in on this debate - but rarely have the time (or come in too late after everyone's taken it in the wrong direction...IMHO).

Men have a biological imperative to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Understand - I'm not saying "a need to have sex" - or a "need to touch" - I'm talking about a need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Your body produces it - and it needs to go somewhere.

The most common ways of ridding yourself of accumulated sperm is through either sex, or masturbation. Even those that choose to do neither will most likely end up expelling it unwillingly/unconsciously via nocturnal emissions.. Some can train themselves - with a great deal of effort (and discomfort) to go so long without any form of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] that it's simply reabsorbed into the body.

However - whichever means is utilized - it doesn't change the fact that you can pretty much say that [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (ridding yourself of unused sperm and sperm) is akin to urination. They're both biological facts that can't be avoided.

Now, for all intents and purposes, the church pretty much teaches men that any form of expelling of sperm outside of "into your wife's vaginal cavity" is a grave sin. Heck - when I was growing up in a Lutheran church - we were taught that all sexual sin (including masturbation) was second only to murder in terms of severity.

So far as the church is concerned - a man's only righteous courses of action are to either hop around like a Mexican hopping bean in sexual frustration until the shameful nocturnal emission occurs - or he can somehow (through some bizarre tantric exercise most likely) train his body to not [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] at all and re-absorb it - or find a vagina to marry in order to find a place to deposit it.

That's pretty much the crux of it. Any other way of handling the need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is to be met with shame.

...and cruising around this board (and seeing how many Christian men seem to view their own needs) - that message is pretty loud and clear.

Sometimes the nocturnal emmission does not occure and I have known someone that needed surgery becasue they failed to expell sperm from their body.

 

[Macx]

The most common ways of ridding yourself of accumulated sperm is through either sex, or masturbation.

No. The most common way of expelling excess [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is during urination while having a bowel movement. Most men have bowel movements more often than they have sex. The poo presses on the prostate as it ends it's journey to the end of the system and that causes a small non-orgasmic [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] . . . no big deal, just God's built in safety valve.

However - whichever means is utilized - it doesn't change the fact that you can pretty much say that [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (ridding yourself of unused sperm and sperm) is akin to urination. They're both biological facts that can't be avoided.

This is 100% right. The church I attend is familiar with biology & doesn't condemn natural actions of the urological and digestive systems. I am sorry there are still some churches preaching out of the medical knowledge of 100 years or more ago, that isn't what I am adressing.

What I am adressing, is this peculiar form of backwards thought

how is he suppose to meet his sexual needs when the church frown on divorce and enables women to refuse it

and

Sometimes the nocturnal emmission does not occure and I have known someone that needed surgery becasue they failed to expell sperm from their body.

Obviously someone's friends failed to listen when the doctor explained, flunked H.S. biology, or are actually talking about having enlarged prostates and have been misinterpreted to support a warped understanding of gender roles.