Just a quick example before I dive into this: If I make a fire in front of you to warm you and I and tell you not to touch it and you touch it, am I at fault? Is it my fault for putting it there or yours for touching it anyway when I told you not to? You might say "you shouldn't have made the fire in the first place". Well, there were good intentions for putting it there, in this case it was to warm both of us. This all works the same way when we talk about God and us.
No, you are not at fault. However, if you created my brain specifically so that I would touch the fire, yes, you are at fault.
God put the tree in the garden to signify true love. Love is true only when choice is involved (no argument there). The choice in this case was choosing God's will and love or the apple from the tree. The product of putting the tree there was an intent for good, (just like making the fire for warmth) making the relationship between God and man real and perfect. But when Eve and Adam ate the fruit, by their choice they messed up. It wasn't God's will and it certainly wasn't His fault.
However, people always have to blame somebody else. People blame Satan for the evil rather than our own fault. Thus, people equally blame God for having the power to destroy Satan but choosing not to. Firstly, I believe God is merciful as well as just, which is why He didn't strike Adam and Eve down the moment they ate the fruit and why He has let all of us live despite all we do wrong. But how dare we say that God is at fault for sin.
God is perfect, holy, and righteous. He hates sin more than anything. The ONLY thing He can't do is sin and He can't be around it, which is why He can't be around us in our sinfulness, hence He sent Jesus to pay our death penalty for our sin. He in his perfection wanted a relationship with us, and from the moment He made us He knew we were going to mess up. But God made us anyway. He will completely destroy sin in the future, though the time we will never know, however He wants us to come to Him and desire Him by choice presently. He doesn't want a robotic love that comes through perfection once the sin is gone. God gave us the free will for a reason, this reason. If you want to blame God for not making us robots then go ahead, but I will thank Him; not just for loving us enough to create us, but creating us with the ability and choice to love Him back.
I can't have a "choice" to love a God that I can't believe in. God takes away that choice when he refuses to give any evidence of himself.
livingforgod, I'm tired of arguing with you. Frankly, I can't put up with you any more.
"God is proof (in response to Islam)", "harry potter was written by a human, the bible is a firsthand account of what God has and will do" - Do you really not see the blatant circular logic??
Yes, you are a hypocrite, because you take your Bible and your faith as proof, but not the Qur'an and the faith of Muslims. You and they are all total, 100% hypocrites.
"no i can prove that i have control over what i believe: my choice to believe in God; I am not going to lie to myself i believe in the truth" - Are you kidding me?? You basically said "I can have control over what I believe, but I can't have control over what I believe".
You're being ridiculous. Think!
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