The gifts of the Holy Spirit

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All of them. They are needed to build up the body of Christ & each member exercises their gift(s) as the Spirit directs for the common good.

But there is one inexpressible gift:

2 Corinthians 9:14-16 Because of the proof this ministry provides, the saints will glorify God for your obedient confession of the gospel of Christ & for the generosity of your contribution to them & to all the others. 14 And their prayers for you will express their affection for you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you. 15Thanks be to God for His indescribable (inexpressible, unspeakably precious) gift!
 
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What, do you think, is the greatest gift of the holy spirit?
The one that is the most appropriate and useful in the situation that the believer is presented with. It is the same with asking a mechanic which of his tools is the greatest. It is the particular tool that best fits the particular job he has to do on the motor vehicle.

It is no point trying to work a miracle, when all the believer needs is a prophetic word of encouragement from the Lord. It is also no use to give a prophecy to a sick person who needs the manifestation of the gift of healing. Also, the gift of healing is no use to a person who needs to wrestle in intercessory prayer and who cannot find the words in his normal language to express the burden on his heart. To effectively intercede under these circumstances the best gift for him at that time is the gift of tongues to be able to pray directly in the Spirit.
 
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I don’t believe one is greater than another.
1 Cor 12:31 - But earnestly desire the best gifts.
1 Cor 14:1 - Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
 
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Prophecy is more than the mere relating of information to your carnal mind. Prophecy inserts words directly into the spirits of the hearers, thereby generating faith into them.
 
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1 Cor 12:31 - But earnestly desire the best gifts.
1 Cor 14:1 - Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

Now quote them in context.
 
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Love. 1 Cor gives a list of what love looks like. Without it, all the others are just a room full of noisemakers.
Love isn't a gift of the Spirit, it is something greater that transcends the gifts. It is the proper motivation for using the gifts.
 
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Yes... love is the better way to get the best gifts. Love is not a gift, it is a way. Better than coveting.

1 Corinthians 12
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way..

Love is better than coveting to get the best gifts. Love is not a gift. Love, like coveting, is a way to get the gifts to operate.
 
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1 Cor 12:31 - But earnestly desire the best gifts.
1 Cor 14:1 - Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

1Cor 14:He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

Prophesy is greater UNLESS he interprets,

That is why context is so very important. The moment tongues has interpretation, prophesy is not greater but equal.
 
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1Cor 14:He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

Prophesy is greater UNLESS he interprets,

That is why context is so very important. The moment tongues has interpretation, prophesy is not greater but equal.
Now you're just twisting the context all up. Paul plainly says in context of the gifts of the Spirit to desire the best gifts, especially prophesy. Yet you would have us believe in the same context that he didn't actually mean what he said plainly.

Additionally, tongues and interpretation of tongues are two different gifts, so even if we accept your logic it doesn't make them equal. It makes interpretation and prophecy equal, but still greater than tongues... which I still don't buy.

What you are missing is the difference between value and order.

What is your personal experience level with prophesy and interpretation of tongues anyway? It may help bring some context to the discussion.
 
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Now you're just twisting the context all up. Paul plainly says in context of the gifts of the Spirit to desire the best gifts, especially prophesy. Yet you would have us believe in the same context that he didn't actually mean what he said plainly.

Additionally, tongues and interpretation of tongues are two different gifts, so even if we accept your logic it doesn't make them equal. It makes interpretation and prophecy equal, but still greater than tongues... which I still don't buy.

What you are missing is the difference between value and order.

What is your personal experience level with prophesy and interpretation of tongues anyway? It may help bring some context to the discussion.

Lol quoting scripture verbatim is twisting scripture
 
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