The Fibonacci Sequence -

[Radrook]

You should have stopped with the cat, that's a thread winner!

Well played sir.

Really?

 

[Radrook]

Your facts don't matter since he has a cartoon. Obviously.

While all you have is fallacious reasoning not worth a cup of Skid Row coffee.

 

[Radrook]

There's a quote I love, seems source unknown but basically states, "You're entitled to your own opinion. You're not entitled to your own facts." That's why we must rely on evidence and the scientific method. Facts and observation help build theories to align our beliefs with reality rather than wishful thinking.

Since the shoe fits I suggest you immediately wear it.

 

[Nithavela]

Focusing on one example while ignoring the preponderance of evidence everywhere else is a favorite atheist ploy.

 

[Nithavela]

Third, the display of the Fibonacci pattern in living things is induced via coded information that leads to the mathematical sequence being repeated. In very stark contrast, the superimpositions you offer are determined by whimsical factors such as assumption of a body position, the making of a certain facial expression or some other such whimsical factor completely unrelated to a predetermined genetic code. In short, you are committing the fallacy of false analogy.

 

[Radrook]

Of course you offer no counterarguments to the rest if my response because you have no counter arguments.
So you desperately latch on to this.

 

[Radrook]

Insisting on seeing patterns in arbitrarily assumed postures is silly.
Do you also see cities on Mars?
Apophenia - Wikipedia

 

[Nithavela]

Insisting on seeing patterns in arbitrarily assumed postures is silly.

 

[Radrook]

Apophenia /æpoʊˈfiːniə/ is the human tendency to perceive meaningful patterns within random data.

The term apparently dates back to 1958, when Klaus Conrad published a monograph titled Die beginnende Schizophrenie. Versuch einer Gestaltanalyse des Wahns ("The onset of schizophrenia: an attempt to form an analysis of delusion"),[1] in which he described in groundbreaking detail the prodromal mood and earliest stages of schizophrenia. He coined the word "Apophänie" to characterize the onset of delusional thinking in psychosis. Conrad's theories on the genesis of schizophrenia have since been partially, yet inconclusively, confirmed in psychiatric literature when tested against empirical findings.[2]

Conrad's neologism was translated into English as "apophenia" (from the Greek apo [away from] + phaenein [to show]) to reflect the fact that a person with schizophrenia initially experiences delusion as revelation.[3]

In 2001 neuroscientist Peter Brugger referenced Conrad's terminology [4] and defined the term as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness".

Apophenia has come to imply a universal human tendency to seek patterns in random information, such as gambling.[5]
Apophenia - Wikipedia

 

[Nithavela]

Apophenia /æpoʊˈfiːniə/ is the human tendency to perceive meaningful patterns within random data.

The term apparently dates back to 1958, when Klaus Conrad published a monograph titled Die beginnende Schizophrenie. Versuch einer Gestaltanalyse des Wahns ("The onset of schizophrenia: an attempt to form an analysis of delusion"),[1] in which he described in groundbreaking detail the prodromal mood and earliest stages of schizophrenia. He coined the word "Apophänie" to characterize the onset of delusional thinking in psychosis. Conrad's theories on the genesis of schizophrenia have since been partially, yet inconclusively, confirmed in psychiatric literature when tested against empirical findings.[2]

Conrad's neologism was translated into English as "apophenia" (from the Greek apo [away from] + phaenein [to show]) to reflect the fact that a person with schizophrenia initially experiences delusion as revelation.[3]

In 2001 neuroscientist Peter Brugger referenced Conrad's terminology [4] and defined the term as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness".

Apophenia has come to imply a universal human tendency to seek patterns in random information, such as gambling.[5]
Apophenia - Wikipedia

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Apophenia /æpoʊˈfiːniə/ is the human tendency to perceive meaningful patterns within random data.

The term apparently dates back to 1958, when Klaus Conrad published a monograph titled Die beginnende Schizophrenie. Versuch einer Gestaltanalyse des Wahns ("The onset of schizophrenia: an attempt to form an analysis of delusion"),[1] in which he described in groundbreaking detail the prodromal mood and earliest stages of schizophrenia. He coined the word "Apophänie" to characterize the onset of delusional thinking in psychosis. Conrad's theories on the genesis of schizophrenia have since been partially, yet inconclusively, confirmed in psychiatric literature when tested against empirical findings.[2]

Conrad's neologism was translated into English as "apophenia" (from the Greek apo [away from] + phaenein [to show]) to reflect the fact that a person with schizophrenia initially experiences delusion as revelation.[3]

In 2001 neuroscientist Peter Brugger referenced Conrad's terminology [4] and defined the term as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness".

Apophenia has come to imply a universal human tendency to seek patterns in random information, such as gambling.[5]
Apophenia - Wikipedia

Who's the one insisting that the Fibonacci Sequence is seen everywhere in biology?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Fibonacci numbers in a sea shell

The spiral curve of the Nautilus sea shell follows the pattern of a spiral drawn in a Fibonacci rectangle, a collection of squares with sides that have the length of Fibonacci numbers


The Fibonacci numbers can be discovered in nature, such as the spiral of the Nautilus sea shell, the petals of the flowers, the seed head of a sunflower, and many other parts. The seeds at the head of the sunflower, for instance, are arranged so that one can find a collection of spirals in both clockwise and counterclockwise ways. Different patterns of spirals are formed depending on whether one is looking at a clockwise or counterclockwise way; thus, the number of spirals also differ depending on the counting direction, as shown by Image 1. The two numbers of spirals are always consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci sequence.
Image:NAUTILUS.jpg - Math Images

The simple reason for the correspondence is that many natural structures are additively constructed or packed together by repeating simple operations, often resulting in approximations to the Golden Section and curves in Fibonacci squares (the two are related) - although some spiral shells are better approximations than others. It's explained here: Fibonacci Numbers and Nature

In the same way, many plants grow new shoots and leaves by the repeated application of very simple rules, resulting in self-similar fractal tree structures. Many CGI landscape generators use fractals to generate realistic trees and shrubs as well as mountain ranges. The Romanesque Broccoli/Cauliflower (or Romanesco) is a stunning example of fractal self-similarity - you'd think it was 3D-printed:

 

[Nithavela]

The simple reason for the correspondence is that many natural structures are additively constructed or packed together by repeating simple operations, often resulting in approximations to the Golden Section and curves in Fibonacci squares (the two are related) - although some spiral shells are better approximations than others. It's explained here: Fibonacci Numbers and Nature

In the same way, many plants grow new shoots and leaves by the repeated application of very simple rules, resulting in self-similar fractal tree structures. Many CGI landscape generators use fractals to generate realistic trees and shrubs as well as mountain ranges. The Romanesque Broccoli/Cauliflower (or Romanesco) is a stunning example of fractal self-similarity - you'd think it was 3D-printed:

Fibbonacci everywhere in this dog.

 

[KCfromNC]

Focusing on one example while ignoring the preponderance of evidence everywhere else is a favorite atheist ploy.

Pretending there is a preponderance of evidence and then being unable to demonstrate that evidence is a favorite ploy of people who aren't being honest about their allged preponderance of evidence.

 

[KCfromNC]

While all you have is fallacious reasoning

Citation needed.

 

[quatona]

While all you have is fallacious reasoning not worth a cup of Skid Row coffee.

Whereas all you have is "I cain´t see...".

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

For example, at SETI we have scientists dedicated to evaluate any signal from space as either from an intelligent sources or not. If a signal demonstrates a certain mathematical pattern it will be suspected of being a code, and codes transmitting info are deemed from an intelligent source. However, when confronted with the DNA code, these are the same scientists who then vehemently claim inability to see, and deny that it was programed by an intelligence.

Ignoring for a second the false information concerning SETI, for the sake of argument....

DNA is not a "message" being "transmitted" from point A to B.

Right there, your analogy falls flat on its face.

Yet they have the gumption to claim that a simple math sequence coming from space would definitely indicate an intelligent source because it transmits information?

No. That's just your false presentation of it.

Sorry but that kind of glaring inconsistency of policy indicates hypocrisy which just doesn't fly.

It's not at all inconsistent.

So if indeed they are suspected of putting their brains on hold when they deem it convenient there is a good reason for it.

Are you going to repeat your false accusation again, which I have proven to be false on various occasions, that ID is only rejecting because of "atheism"?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It would be identified as designed by humans as opposed to being designed by God.

"God"?

Don't you mean "Intelligent designer"?

Please keep in mind that a vast host of famous scientists have been theists.

So?

It did not interfere with their contributions to science.

Because they left their faith based beliefs at the door when entering the lab.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I provided the example of SETI where the criteria for recognizing an intelligent source should be the same when examining DNA which is a code of information.

And in doing so, you engaged in an equivocation fallacy.

DNA is not a message that is being transmitted from A to B.

DNA is a molecule engaged in a chemical reaction.

 

[Radrook]

Whereas all you have is "I cain´t see...".

Which would be of course true is it weren't false.