Lol He only had to mention it once for us to know it exists. The ratio of heavenly words to hellish words in the scriptures is completely irrelevant.
Yup: all four hells exist.
The consummation of all of them =
The Lake of Theos.
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Lol He only had to mention it once for us to know it exists. The ratio of heavenly words to hellish words in the scriptures is completely irrelevant.
Yup: all four hells exist.
The consummation of all of them =
The Lake of Theos.
Yup: all four hells exist.
The consummation of all of them =
The Lake of Theos.
So what your saying is everyone who says Lord Lord to Jesus will enter heaven and everyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will be forgiven.
No. Mk 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.So what your saying is everyone who says Lord Lord to Jesus will enter heaven and everyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will be forgiven.
No. Mk 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Unforgiveness is restricted to this age (present) or in the age to come (Millennial Age) - not forever.
While it is true there was and still exists a valley outside Jerusalem which was called Ge Hinnom in Hebrew and Gehenna in Greek. Today it is called Wadi al-Rababah. Jesus was not talking about the valley He was talking about this Gehenna.Well, I checked all the red instances in Strong's having to do with heavenly words and hellish words, using a hand counter. References to the heavenly won by a wide margin, so don't fall for that little bon mot in the future. Anyway, if Jesus used the word "gehenna," remember that is was, and is, a place in the real world.
Nonsense. See my post immediately above. Unlike some folks I actually research a topic I am involved with. Here is my evidence that the Kidron valley was the trash dump for Jerusalem.Four hells: sheol, hades, gehenna and tartarus? But none of them are the classic Hell of Dante, Milton and Baxter.
The "Christian" Hell is really not too far removed from the pagan Norse "Helheim" (House of Hel), which was thought to be your eternal destination if you did not rate going to Valhalla.
Dear BNR: Are you practicing being slow, or do you not grasp anything you read, or both?
For a fellow who does not know what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is, my advise would be to find out. After that exercise, you should examine the ages in Scripture
The Doctrine of the Ages in the Bible
Every knee, every tonque, every dimension (heaven. earth & underworld) IN/EN worship of Christ Jesus.
Have you seen the long list of translators through the centuries who have translated the Hebrew and Greek scriptures into English. It's quite a list.
Did you know they are all wrong in leading us to believe there is a permanent hell for those who reject Christ, according to the Universalists.
A merciful and loving God cannot be just to send part of His creation to a place such as this while some others enjoy the presence of God forever.
Scripture such as these have been mistranslated by all these translators.
Matt. 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
2Thes. 1:9
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The Universalists have said they plan to translate their own Bible and make these corrections.
When they do they have sealed their fate. I would like to draw your attention to a very important verse of scripture.
Rev. 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
What have the Universalists taken away from the words of the book of this prophecy, or from the entire Bible? They have taken away from any words such as eternal, everlasting, anything that presents a permanent place of punishment for those who have rejected Christ.
What did God say in Rev. 22:19 the punishment for such a thing will be?
Folks, this is as serious as false doctrine can get!
What do the ages have to do with it? Luke 12:8-10 is the parallel message and doesn’t say anything about aion. I’ve already explained this in my post earlier this morning.
I first heard the argument that "aionios never means eternal." etc. about 2 decades ago when I joined this forum. And I have seen it presented many time since then. People who make that argument refuse to accept any lexicon which states otherwise. So I decided to review every occurrence of aionios in the NT. See my findings below.
Thanks for your inquiry. Both verses 31 & 32 address blasphemy against the Spirit. V.31 simply states it will not be forgiven. V.32 clarifies that statement by stating that it shall not be forgiven - "neither in this age; neither in the age to come." Thus not being forgiven is limited to a total of two ages; this age and the next age (Millennium) which does not mean forever.I’m not sure I understand what your saying brother. Are you saying blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven? Because verse 31 says it will not be forgiven.
Thanks for your inquiry. Both verses 31 & 32 address blasphemy against the Spirit. V.31 simply states it will not be forgiven. V.32 clarifies that statement by stating that it shall not be forgiven - "neither in this age; neither in the age to come." Thus not being forgiven is limited to a total of two ages; this age and the next age (Millennium) which does not mean forever.
Yes, that is why Christian Universalism believes forgiveness for all sin (including blasphemy) extends past the great white throne judgment which comes after the Millennium.So are you saying that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit can be forgiven after the Millenium?
The parallel verses in Luke suggest it will not be forgiven period.
Your ignoring Luke 10:12. If at any time blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is forgiven then Luke 10:12 and Matthew 12:31 are false statements. As I’ve already pointed out aion does not always refer to a limited amount of time and is not even mention in the Luke parallel.
Yes, that is why Christian Universalism believes forgiveness for all sin (including blasphemy) extends past the great white throne judgment which comes after the Millennium.
Luke does not refer to any duration of time whatsoever so you are inferring something in the text that it does not state. The Matthean does. Are you arguing from silence?