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Here come some of the ladies.
Sharon Baker
https://www.nomadpodcast.co.uk/nomad-60-sharon-baker-and-razing-hell/
Madeleine L'Engle
L'Engle was Episcopalian and believed in Christian universalism, which insisted that everyone will ultimately be saved by God. She meditated on religious issues in such books as And It Was Good: Reflections on Beginnings (1983). L'Engle also worked at St. John the Divine in New York City as a librarian and writer-in-residence for more than three decades.
TOP 25 QUOTES BY MADELEINE L'ENGLE (of 427) | A-Z Quotes
An interview with Ilaria Ramelli
Anne Bronte
One of the three famous Bronte sisters, Anne is remembered for being the most pious. Before she died from tuberculosis at the tender age of 29, Anne admitted to a faith in universalism, as the following poem and letter testify.
A Word to The 'Elect'
You may rejoice to think yourselves secure;
You may be grateful for the gift divine -
That grace unsought, which made your black hearts pure,
And fits your earth-born souls in Heaven to shine.
But, is it sweet to look around, and view
Thousands excluded from that happiness
Which they deserved, at least, as much as you, -
Their faults not greater, nor their virtues less?
And, wherefore should you love your God the more,
Because to you alone his smiles are given;
Because he chose to pass the many o'er,
And only bring the favoured few to Heaven?
And, wherefore should your hearts more grateful prove,
Because for ALL the Saviour did not die?
Is yours the God of justice and of love?
And are your bosoms warm with charity?
Say, does your heart expand to all mankind?
And, would you ever to your neighbor do -
The weak, the strong, the enlightened, and the blind -
As you would have your neighbor do to you?
And, when you, looking on your fellow-men,
Behold them doomed to endless misery,
How can you talk of joy and rapture then? -
May God withhold such cruel joy from me!
That none deserve eternal bliss I know;
Unmerited the grace in mercy given:
But, none shall sink to everlasting woe,
That have not well deserved the wrath of Heaven.
And, oh! there lives within my heart
A hope, long nursed by me;
(And, should its cheering ray depart,
How dark my soul would be!)
That as in Adam all have died,
In Christ shall all men live;
And ever round his throne abide,
Eternal praise to give.
That even the wicked shall at last
Be fitted for the skies;
And, when their dreadful doom is past,
To life and light arise.
I ask not, how remote the day,
Nor what the sinners' woe,
Before their dross is purged away;
Enough for me, to know
That when the cup of wrath is drained,
The metal purified,
They'll cling to what they once disdained,
And live by Him that died.
--Anne Bronte (1843)
Florence Nightingdale
Theology
Nightingale was a Christian universalist.
On 7 February 1837 – not long before her 17th birthday – something happened that would change her life: "God spoke to me", she wrote, "and called me to His service."
Hannah W. Smith
The Unselfishness of God and How I Discovered It (the missing chapters)
"Nothing can separate you from His love, absolutely nothing, neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature... We do not need to beg Him to bless us, He simply cannot help it. Therefore God is enough! God is enough for time, God is enough for eternity. God is enough!" -Hannah Whitall Smith-
Clara Barton (Founder Red Cross)
Although not formally a member of the Universalist Church of America in a 1905 letter to the widow of Carl Norman Thrasher, she identified herself with her parents' church as a "Universalist".
My dear friend and sister:
Your belief that I am a Universalist is as correct as your greater belief that you are one yourself, a belief in which all who are privileged to possess it rejoice. In my case, it was a great gift, like St. Paul, I "was born free", and saved the pain of reaching it through years of struggle and doubt.
My father was a leader in the building of the church in which Hosea Ballow preached his first dedication sermon. Your historic records will show that the old Huguenot town of Oxford, Mass. erected one of, if not the first Universalist Church in America. In this town I was born; in this church I was reared. In all its reconstructions and remodelings I have taken a part, and I look anxiously for a time in the near future when the busy world will let me once more become a living part of its people, praising God for the advance in the liberal faith of the religions of the world today, so largely due to the teachings of this belief.
Give, I pray you, dear sister, my warmest congratulations to the members of your society. My best wishes for the success of your annual meeting, and accept my thanks most sincerely for having written me.
Fraternally yours, (Signed) Clara Barton.
Clara Barton - Wikipedia
No difference?
Universalism teaches everyone will be saved.
ECT says that no one who suffers that will ever be saved.
Huge, huge, HUGE, difference!
Sorry, sir, but i don't see how you can say there is "no difference".
God's Word is not my words but God's. You have simply provided your own words that are not God's Word but your words to deny God's Word in order to gamble your salvation in the false doctrine of second chances. There is only life in the living Word. These are his Words and not my own. Freely I give because freely I have received. Your Words are not directed towards me but to the one who the Word belongs. There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. I must speak in the light and what I hear preach in the housetops. Many will not hear because they do not know Him. He is the Word of God and those that believe him are those that he has chosen. They follow him because they love him and are loved by him. Do you know these scriptures dear Shrewd?I'm sorry man, I can't help but laugh at the broken theology. It cracks me up too.
Yep like a broken record. Please refrain from spamming this thread dear friend with the same things over and over dear FINE as it is against the forums rules and the TOS. Do you have anything new to share or scriptures from God's Word perhaps? I guess not.
Dear Lover: There is a wonderful Scripture you have missed from Hezekiah. Do not take yourself too seriously. Nobody else does.
Indeed dear Clement, Universalism is not biblical. I do not believe in eternal conscious torment and think it is a false teaching that originated from the Roman Catholic Church that teaches a cruel vengeful God. To me there is no difference to this teaching and what Universalism teaches which claims without scripture support that God tortures all those who do not believe him into repentance until they worship him. In my view this is only a simply variation of the same Catholic dogma that teaches a cruel unloving God but denies God's justice and judgement and makes a mockery of the Cross.
What was that but a repetition of what you had already said? And which did not address my post:
No difference?
Universalism teaches everyone will be saved.
ECT says that no one who suffers that will ever be saved.
Huge, huge, HUGE, difference!
Sorry, sir, but i don't see how you can say there is "no difference".
To me there is no difference to this teaching and what Universalism teaches which claims without scripture support that God tortures all those who do not believe him into repentance until they worship him.
what Universalism teaches which claims without scripture support that God tortures all those who do not believe him into repentance until they worship him.
That's not what universalism means, is, is defined as, or teaches.
Here is a definition of universalism:
" a theological doctrine that all human beings will eventually be saved"
Definition of UNIVERSALISM
You do know Universalism teaches the wicked will be put in the lake of fire and tortured until they repent and turn to God right in the fire of second chances of no scripture dear friend.
You haven't quoted a single teacher of universalism that says that.
Even if you could, you would find other universalists who reject that & say they do not teach that. Which proves your statement is wrong.
My previous post gave you the proper definition of universalism & it doesn't say that.
Even if it did teach that, if you reject universalism, you are teaching something way, way worse. So what is it you teach, annihilation-ism? That Love Omnipotent is some kind of monster infinitely worse than Hitler, who after torturing many in the lake of fire, for no good reason at all, then snuffs them out in his endless gas chamber, never to live again or know God's love for endless ages? That's a long time to be without the endless blessings of the Saviour of all.
If Love Omnipotent doesn't save all, is it because He can't, or because He doesn't want to?
I see so it seems those who teach Universalism do not know what they believe in how all men will be saved? How are all men saved in your view? Others I speak to say JESUS will put them in the lake of fire until the wicked repent. What is your spin on it?
I see so it seems those who teach Universalism do not know what they believe in how all men will be saved?
How are all men saved in your view? Others I speak to say JESUS will put them in the lake of fire until the wicked repent. What is your spin on it?
Mrs. Whatsit, Mrs. Who, and Mrs. Which are immortal beings who can travel across large stretches of time and space by dematerializing and rematerializing. They are capable of shapeshifting, but spend most of their time on Earth as elderly women.
You tease me now but please tell me in truth what spirit would hope that the lake of fire reserved for the devil and his angels will let them come home?This is a sad commentary on you Lily!
These ladies (like all of us) are mortals, but breaking fresh ground in extraordinary dimensions. This would likely be an excellent time to review what repentance means in Abba.
When the Lord Jesus Christ gave up His Life on the cross, He did not say you must believe to be saved. He said "it is finished."
His mission is accomplished!
Dear Lover: It is unfortunate you were not around in time to "beware" the ladies presented (so far), standing as remarkable women.
I have a really neat idea.
Perhaps we can take a vote of which of them exemplifies the One who saves all mankind?
Will it be >>>
1. Clara Barton
2. Eliz. B. Browning
3. Hannah W. Smith
4. Florence Nightingale
5. Sharon Baker
6. Madeleine L'Engle
7. Ilaria Ramelli
8. Anne Bronte
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