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Sin has no hold over the True Believer, in the sense of CONDEMATION. As for pain of the flesh... Romans 7 and 2 Corinthians 12... each man awaits God's timing.

The condemnation is gone. The Old Man is Dead. But the flesh is Secondary to the work the (Romans 8:9) does with our Soul.

I Love the way you wrote this, as an overcomer. Don't be dismayed if you see me write as I do. I do so for the reason of providing hope to those that are still overcome by the Law of Sin and Death, that are too fearful to Surrender.

I do love what you've said, though, and see the hope and necessity of it, as well.
I will always keep it real with you brother. It id simply how I am wired. Do not get offended by any comments I make, for none was intended.

Men caught in the grasp of sin and self do not need to see a really nice guy still caught in the web. They need to see the really nice guy shine the light he possesses to give them hope and then faith that if God can take a mess like me or you, and transform us into a people who simply let their light shine in whatever way God desires for them to shine, that is what will draw them and free them.

You said earlier it is all in God's time. How true! Well, guess what time it is? LOL.

blessings

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I will always keep it real with you brother. It id simply how I am wired. Do not get offended by any comments I make, for none was intended.

Men caught in the grasp of sin and self do not need to see a really nice guy still caught in the web. They need to see the really nice guy shine the light he possesses to give them hope and then faith that if God can take a mess like me or you, and transform us into a people who simply let their light shine in whatever way God desires for them to shine, that is what will draw them and free them.

You said earlier it is all in God's time. How true! Well, guess what time it is? LOL.

blessings

Gids

Brother,

I look forward to walking in the New Jerusalem with you!

I'll give you a song to my old man. I'll speak to you, this once, as you have said. Only this one post... :D.... you won't see it again...

I praise Jesus that "In Him", the Devil is POWERLESS to get a single Dart through the Armor God (Deuteronomy 6:4)(Isaiah 9:6)(Revelation 21:21-27)(1 John 5:7) has Graciously, Mercifully, Powerfully, Lovingly and Selflessly bestowed upon us.

And, Brother, He can speak through any of us who HAVE SURRENDERED to our Inability, that is exalted in the HANDS OF HIS ABILITY!

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ, The Eternal Son of the Living Father, Who is the Sealer of our Souls to ETERNAL GLORY with HIS Precious Holy Spirit!

Sin is Dead, and only He Remains. Only He Shines, casting all my darkness asunder... and shining through this (Once Broken) vessel....

An Ode to the Old Man..... :D
Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
I love you, oh but Jesus loves you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight

Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
love you, oh but Jesus loves you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight

Walking in Jerusalem just like John (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
I remember right well, I remember right well (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
His rod and his staff shall comfort me (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Tell "A" for the ark, that wonderful boat (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Tell "B" for the beast at the ending of the wood (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Well it eat all the children that would not be good (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
I'm walking in Jerusalem just like John (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Walking in the valley of the shadow of death (bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight)

Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
I love you, oh but Jesus love you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
 
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Grip no-one can move outside of that. The perfect man must rely on grace moment by moment as it is not his own righteousness he walks in. In fact he must cling to it more so than the unrighteous.

I deny original sin btw. I believe that all men will fall and become sinners and no longer innocent in their early childhood.

Regarding original sin, my personal opinion, is the following. . .

When Adam and Eve sinned, they were suppose to die that very day as God warned and promised them they should. While indeed they lost that Spiritual union with God when they sinned, they did not die physically at that time. Even so, the Paradise was lost at that time to all humanity.

God spared Adam and Eve in His mercy, and so he also spared the whole human race that would come from Adam and Eve. God did this because His plan - through Christ - was to save those He foreknew would walk with Him by faith, to those who love God. God foreknew these faithful ones through time. And to these faithful ones, God also predestined for salvation in His Son - the 2nd Adam.

So original sin means to me that all humans should have never existed because Adam and Eve were suppose to die the very day they sinned, and so the whole human race should have died with Adam and Eve.

God spared Adam and Eve, and so gave the entire human race an opportunity to believe in Him according to His love and grace, even so, Paradise is lost to humanity at this time in this present world system. And to those who do believe, God credits the righteousness of Christ to their accounts and re-establishes Spiritual union with these faithful ones.
  • God promises those who believe a fulfilling life in the peace of God now as they listen to and follow Him in that New Life of faith - this is salvation.
  • And in the age to come God promises and rewards these same faithful ones an eternal inheritance after their life here is ended - Paradise regained.
This plan of God's is now being worked out in real time, and the sons of God are being revealed throughout time according to His plan and foreknowledge. Even so, as Scripture teaches, only a remnant of humanity will truly believe and be eternally save.
 
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Brother,

I look forward to walking in the New Jerusalem with you!

I'll give you a song to my old man. I'll speak to you, this once, as you have said. Only this one post... :D.... you won't see it again...

I praise Jesus that "In Him", the Devil is POWERLESS to get a single Dart through the Armor God (Deuteronomy 6:4)(Isaiah 9:6)(Revelation 21:21-27)(1 John 5:7) has Graciously, Mercifully, Powerfully, Lovingly and Selflessly bestowed upon us.

And, Brother, He can speak through any of us who HAVE SURRENDERED to our Inability, that is exalted in the HANDS OF HIS ABILITY!

Praise our Lord Jesus Christ, The Eternal Son of the Living Father, Who is the Sealer of our Souls to ETERNAL GLORY with HIS Precious Holy Spirit!

Sin is Dead, and only He Remains. Only He Shines, casting all my darkness asunder... and shining through this (Once Broken) vessel....

An Ode to the Old Man..... :D
Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
I love you, oh but Jesus loves you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight

Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
love you, oh but Jesus loves you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight

Walking in Jerusalem just like John (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
I remember right well, I remember right well (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
His rod and his staff shall comfort me (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Tell "A" for the ark, that wonderful boat (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Tell "B" for the beast at the ending of the wood (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Well it eat all the children that would not be good (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
I'm walking in Jerusalem just like John (bid you goodnight, goodnight)
Walking in the valley of the shadow of death (bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight)

Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest
Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast
I love you, oh but Jesus love you the best
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
And I bid you goodnight, goodnight, goodnight
I love it! Now, lesson number one, at least for me and what I experienced.

Not WHEN you stumble, but IF you stumble, (big difference), what do you do? The first response I had was to struggle to 'get it again'. It is very easy to fall back into trying harder to believe again. But what did that profit me for those 38 miserable years of trying to try, and then trying not to try? I will tell you what... a big sack of exegesis. LOL.

Eventually God taught me. IF I slip and sin, it changes nothing. Did I still die when Christ died? Yup. Am I a new creature even if I fall? Yup? So what to do? I confess my sin, I repent and turn from it, but most importantly I immediately, if not sooner, confess again who I am in Christ. I pick up my shield of faith.... again.... and again believe. And miracle of miracles, my shield grows a big larger. Glory!

Do you really want to see our enemy thoroughly frustrated? Watch him come running up to accuse you if you fall, and to tell you it was all nonsense, only to see you in your complete armor, a now real viable threat to him, kept again by the power of God. He is so used to laying into us when we have slipped and with us nodding with him in agreement that to discover we have simply gotten up and begun walking again.... well, it sends him over the edge, LOL.

Why did I slip? Simple. Unbelief. My shield of faith wavered. It is like I am a toddler learning to walk. If we do fall, God, the model good father, picks us up, dusts us off and then claps in joy and tells us "You took three steps today! And tomorrow I bet you will do five!"

The truth of who we are is not based upon how big our faith is. We can fall mightily, and it changes NOTHING. That truth is like an anchor for our soul. We might drift a bit at first, but I can believe again because my faith is not in my faith if that makes sense. I can believe because what Jesus accomplished is TRUTH.

That lesson came after months of stumbling around trying to hold my mouth just right, lol.

I will be honest. After that amazing night, it was two full years of walking in joy every day before I truly slipped. It was so supernatural that the thought was growing in me that it was actually impossible for me to fall.

When that thought comes, get ready for your first spanking. LOL. We always are dependent on Him to keep us. Satan is always seeking a way back in. It was two full months before I got my footing again.

Blessings to you brother. God receives your words.

blessings,

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Sin has no hold over the True Believer, in the sense of CONDEMATION. As for pain of the flesh... Romans 7 and 2 Corinthians 12... each man awaits God's timing.

The condemnation is gone. The Old Man is Dead. But the flesh is Secondary to the work the (Romans 8:9) does with our Soul.

I Love the way you wrote this, as an overcomer. Don't be dismayed if you see me write as I do. I do so for the reason of providing hope to those that are still overcome by the Law of Sin and Death, that are too fearful to Surrender.

I do love what you've said, though, and see the hope and necessity of it, as well.
:)
One thing about text forums... Its just not possible to fully express all we are trying to say in short posts
So what a person is saying can be greatly misconstrued if we dont make educated assumptions to fill in the volumes they cant type in haha :)

God bless you.

I was a prisoner to sin and bought into the sad defeatist and untrue doctrine of ..." Oh well your just a sinner saved.."

That afforded me No peace of heart or mind because in my continued sin was continued guilt and shame cutting me off from God.
Then he showed me the day i believed on Jesus to save me from my sin ..i was freed from its power.
The enemy via an unrepentant church system was lying to me about only being still a sinner saved.(which held me defeated- scripture NEVER states that ever)
If i was saved.then sin has NO power over me.thats what saved means :) .
and the lord showed me the only reason I continued to sin is because i loved the sin and the fleeting pleasures of it MORE then i loved God.
Upon this simple revelation the truth shattered the lie and i rose up in repentance and walked free to not do those evil deeds any more. Not because im righteous but because Jesus saves me from doing sin and the death it brings as a result.
He causes me to Do righteouness increasingly which resukts in eternal life.
This applies to all sin we Know unambiguously to be sin .
( now this change is ever ongoing into areas of life where we are by way of incorrect thinkings ignorant of our failings and the more ambiguous sins -as the lord reveals them, we turn from them to cease from doing them
And in All cases- replace evil deeds with righteous deeds. There is no vacume in between. )
The result is upon hearing the Good news of Jesus i finally began to obey its instructions and thereby began to know the results promised.

It is a Sad thing that too many continue to Do evil deeds of sin
Some because thats what they truly desire.
Others because they are Taught (a lie) that they cant stop.
But once the truth is revealed the sorrowful repentant heart grasps it in great relief and joy.And goes on to both continue and increase doing right .
 
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One thing about text forums... Its just not possible to fully express all we are trying to say in short posts
So what a person is saying can be greatly misconstrued if we dont make educated assumptions to fill in the volumes they cant type in haha :)

God bless you.

I was a prisoner to sin and bought into the sad defeatist and untrue doctrine of ..." Oh well your just a sinner saved.."

That afforded me No peace of heart or mind because in my continued sin was continued guilt and shame cutting me off from God.
Then he showed me the day i believed on Jesus to save me from my sin ..i was freed from its power.
The enemy via an unrepentant church system was lying to me about only being still a sinner saved.(which held me defeated- scripture NEVER states that ever)
If i was saved.then sin has NO power over me.thats what saved means :) .
and the lord showed me the only reason I continued to sin is because i loved the sin and the fleeting pleasures of it MORE then i loved God.
Upon this simple revelation the truth shattered the lie and i rose up in repentance and walked free to not do those evil deeds any more. Not because im righteous but because Jesus saves me from doing sin and the death it brings as a result.
He causes me to Do righteouness increasingly which resukts in eternal life.
This applies to all sin we Know unambiguously to be sin .
( now this change is ever ongoing into areas of life where we are by way of incorrect thinkings ignorant of our failings and the more ambiguous sins -as the lord reveals them, we turn from them to cease from doing them
And in All cases- replace evil deeds with righteous deeds. There is no vacume in between. )
The result is upon hearing the Good news of Jesus i finally began to obey its instructions and thereby began to know the results promised.

It is a Sad thing that too many continue to Do evil deeds of sin
Some because thats what they truly desire.
Others because they are Taught (a lie) that they cant stop.
But once the truth is revealed the sorrowful repentant heart grasps it in great relief and joy.And goes on to both continue and increase doing right .

Brother, I speak as I do, because I do still fail. I speak as a "Saved Sinner" to prick the conscience of those that think it is They, that Save themselves... as if Christ isn't sufficient.

I speak as I do to prick the conscience of those that attempt to "improve" on Christ's GOOD WORK.

All Love in Jesus Christ to you.
 
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One thing about text forums... Its just not possible to fully express all we are trying to say in short posts
So what a person is saying can be greatly misconstrued if we dont make educated assumptions to fill in the volumes they cant type in haha :)

God bless you.

I was a prisoner to sin and bought into the sad defeatist and untrue doctrine of ..." Oh well your just a sinner saved.."

That afforded me No peace of heart or mind because in my continued sin was continued guilt and shame cutting me off from God.
Then he showed me the day i believed on Jesus to save me from my sin ..i was freed from its power.
The enemy via an unrepentant church system was lying to me about only being still a sinner saved.(which held me defeated- scripture NEVER states that ever)
If i was saved.then sin has NO power over me.thats what saved means :) .
and the lord showed me the only reason I continued to sin is because i loved the sin and the fleeting pleasures of it MORE then i loved God.
Upon this simple revelation the truth shattered the lie and i rose up in repentance and walked free to not do those evil deeds any more. Not because im righteous but because Jesus saves me from doing sin and the death it brings as a result.
He causes me to Do righteouness increasingly which resukts in eternal life.
This applies to all sin we Know unambiguously to be sin .
( now this change is ever ongoing into areas of life where we are by way of incorrect thinkings ignorant of our failings and the more ambiguous sins -as the lord reveals them, we turn from them to cease from doing them
And in All cases- replace evil deeds with righteous deeds. There is no vacume in between. )
The result is upon hearing the Good news of Jesus i finally began to obey its instructions and thereby began to know the results promised.

It is a Sad thing that too many continue to Do evil deeds of sin
Some because thats what they truly desire.
Others because they are Taught (a lie) that they cant stop.
But once the truth is revealed the sorrowful repentant heart grasps it in great relief and joy.And goes on to both continue and increase doing right .
Amen and amen!

blessings, my down under friend

Gideon
 
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Brother, I speak as I do, because I do still fail. I speak as a "Saved Sinner" to prick the conscience of those that think it is They, that Save themselves... as if Christ isn't sufficient.

I speak as I do to prick the conscience of those that attempt to "improve" on Christ's GOOD WORK.

All Love in Jesus Christ to you.
To fail in perfect moral character which wecare being transformed into. is a huge difference from Doing a sinfull deed on a continued basis
 
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Amen and amen!

blessings, my down under friend

Gideon
We may have misunderstandings on more recent concepts.. But knowing both our testimonies, i know we are in harmony on these matters bro.
Love in Christ :)
 
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To fail in perfect moral character which wecare being transformed into. is a huge difference from Doing a sinfull deed on a continued basis

James 2:10
 
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James 2:10

James 1:12-15 (NIV)
12 Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.

Regarding sin, we know that temptation may lead to sin in weakness. And in cases like this, God offers forgiveness if we stumble in weakness. However, what is James referring to in:

"when it is full-grown, gives birth to death" ??

This means to me that when a sin turns into a vice that controls us, or we become enslaved to the sin, then this will lead to our Spiritual death, unless we are still able to repent of it. Because a time will come that if, after being saved, we continue to deliberately allow a sin to control us that we will become hardened, and the possibility is that we could fall from grace unable to return.

Hebrews 3:12-19 (NIV)
12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.
14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.
 
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We may have misunderstandings on more recent concepts.. But knowing both our testimonies, i know we are in harmony on these matters bro.
Love in Christ :)
You are a good brother in the Lord to me. You are welcome on my foxhole any time, LOL.

Blessings, me
 
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James 1:12-15 (NIV)
12 Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.

Regarding sin, we know that temptation may lead to sin in weakness. And in cases like this, God offers forgiveness if we stumble in weakness. However, what is James referring to in:

"when it is full-grown, gives birth to death" ??

This means to me that when a sin turns into a vice that controls us, or we become enslaved to the sin, then this will lead to our Spiritual death, unless we are still able to repent of it. Because a time will come that if, after being saved, we continue to deliberately allow a sin to control us that we will become hardened, and the possibility is that we could fall from grace unable to return.

Hebrews 3:12-19 (NIV)
12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.
14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.
 
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James 1:12-15 (NIV)
12 Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
16 Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.

Regarding sin, we know that temptation may lead to sin in weakness. And in cases like this, God offers forgiveness if we stumble in weakness. However, what is James referring to in:

"when it is full-grown, gives birth to death" ??

This means to me that when a sin turns into a vice that controls us, or we become enslaved to the sin, then this will lead to our Spiritual death, unless we are still able to repent of it. Because a time will come that if, after being saved, we continue to deliberately allow a sin to control us that we will become hardened, and the possibility is that we could fall from grace unable to return.

Hebrews 3:12-19 (NIV)
12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.
14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end.
Excellent post, brother and great insight with scriptures as well.

The problem with playing with just a bit of sin is rhat we become like Samson. If we do not watch it, and flee it through faith, more often than not we will find ourselves grinding out religious corn to the delight of our enemy.

The hardness that comes on our heart is generally not immediate and thus hardly detected. It is so slow that it is almost imperceptible.. almost.

We abide by faith. and sin is like puncturing small holes in our bucket. A leak, a leak there, and soon we are back to running laps in the wilderness of unbelief.

We CAN fall in the promised land. Trust me. Think of Ai. After the mighty victory at Jericho, Israel's head was big. Little Ai would not stand a chance, right? Well, little Ai kicked their butts. LOL.

Joshua lost his confidence and was in fear. God would have none of it. Get out of the dust, dry your tears and believe again. I am with you.

That was me when I thought I was past failing. LOL.

We need to learn this and learn it well. There is NO small sin. All sin is rooted in disobedience and unbelief.

Thanks for sharing, brother. I hope you share again.

blessings,

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You are a good brother in the Lord to me. You are welcome on my foxhole any time, LOL.

Blessings, me
of course I meant IN my foxhole .... lol.
 
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Excellent post, brother and great insight with scriptures as well.

The problem with playing with just a bit of sin is rhat we become like Samson. If we do not watch it, and flee it through faith, more often than not we will find ourselves grinding out religious corn to the delight of our enemy.

The hardness that comes on our heart is generally not immediate and thus hardly detected. It is so slow that it is almost imperceptible.. almost.

We abide by faith. and sin is like puncturing small holes in our bucket. A leak, a leak there, and soon we are back to running laps in the wilderness of unbelief.

We CAN fall in the promised land. Trust me. Think of Ai. After the mighty victory at Jericho, Israel's head was big. Little Ai would not stand a chance, right? Well, little Ai kicked their butts. LOL.

Joshua lost his confidence and was in fear. God would have none of it. Get out of the dust, dry your tears and believe again. I am with you.

That was me when I thought I was past failing. LOL.

We need to learn this and learn it well. There is NO small sin. All sin is rooted in disobedience and unbelief.

Thanks for sharing, brother. I hope you share again.

blessings,

Gids

Hi Gideon,

Your thoughtful analogies describe well how sin can weaken and even destroy our faith over time without even knowing how this could have happened. As Christ taught, we cannot have two masters - only one. Each day we live, we make a choice of faith whom we follow, whether faith in the sin that is tempting us, or faith in Christ in whom we have life and many sure promises.

It all amounts to the kind of faith we have in Christ. If our faith does not include repentance and the crucifying of ourselves to the flesh daily, then we will easily slide back into being controlled by a sin or sins, or backslide into a life of sin.

Luke 9:23-25 (WEB)
23 He said to all, “If anyone desires to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow me. 24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever will lose his life for my sake, the same will save it. 25 For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses or forfeits his own self?

I understand from your artful use of analogies that you speak from experience, of which all believers would confess they have similar experiences on the Journey in Faith, and that includes myself. So, yes, let us put on the whole armor of God, taking up our crosses, and going forward into spiritual battle. Our trials on this earth will test the genuineness of our faith and refine it.

Luke 21:34-35 (WEB)
34 So be careful, or your hearts will be loaded down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that day will come on you suddenly. 35 For it will come like a snare on all those who dwell on the surface of all the earth.

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 (WEB)
26 I therefore run like that, as not uncertainly. I fight like that, as not beating the air, 27 but I beat my body and bring it into submission, lest by any means, after I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected.

Mark 13 (WEB) 13 You will be hated by all men for my name’s sake, but he who endures to the end, the same will be saved.

1 Timothy 1:18-19 (WEB) Bolding mine
18 Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well, 19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck of their faith.

Revelation 2:10 (WEB) 10 Be faithful to death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Revelation 3:11 (NIV) Bolding mine… 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

Revelation 3:5 (WEB) Bolding mine… 5 He who overcomes will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Blessings.
 
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Lots of excellent posts.

Recently i have been offering up my thoughts, sinful thoughts etc, to God, and asking Him to replace them with His grace. I have been thanking God for His grace. I do believe that God is helping me in my struggles.

We have to turn to God when we sin, ask for repentence and His grace and then, TRULY BELIEVE we have received them.

I am not as knowledgeable as most on here. I am no theologian.

Some know my struggles. I truly believe i have turned the corner through God's grace!

May God bless and protect you all.
 
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