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So then, perhaps a little truth sneaks through - someone , some religion, sadly and wrongly and in error drove you from seeking the TRUTH into
seeking something "better" than the TRUTH?
What is better than the TRUTH, what "theology" or "religion" is it that you have found ?
If Hell were temporary, why then would the rich man speak of an unending torment IF he were "just dead and obliterated"?
Any one who has truley come to know God..actually has a higher reverence and fear of him then they did before they knew him.
Love is not excused due to fear .
When you come to know how pure righteous and Holy God is.. And that he will not tolerate any form of continued sinfulness..that fear will drive you to true Godly repentance.
It is a fearfull thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
You will realize this is THE ONE who can throw you in hell fire and forget you
And is already justified in doing so and would be acting in righteousness to do so...
We would be fools to not fear him .
I believe in the punishment, but not the eternal punishment.
Not at all.Surely you realize that when you talk like this to people who disagree with you, all you are really saying is: "MY position is the truth, no doubt, and if you try to argue against it, then you go against God." It's so obvious a tactic to just shut down the other side in a theological debate using God as a threat, it's not even funny.
That's a parable-----
So there's no truth in parables?
Is the parable of the sower about agriculture? Is there really any camel that will try to go through the eye of a needle?
Ehh I dunno what you're trying to ask me.
I wouldn't think I would have to explain it?I'm trying to understand why you think Hell is a punishment, is all.
I wouldn't think I would have to explain it?
You'd have to be an utter [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] to not think of it as a punishment, I mean, burning up doesn't sound all that fun to me.
Revelation 20:10Well, here I am asking.
So, I ask again. What is your definition of punishment? Why do you think that Hell is a place of punishment? Doesn't God hand those over to their sinful nature? Romans 1:18-25 How is Hell any different? That is not a punishment as punishment means to correct a behaviour. This is why I cannot believe that Hell is punishment, it doesn't fit with what God says - as His Word.
Unless, perhaps, you're trying to catch me in a trap.Revelation 20:10
Matthew 25:41
Ezekiel 32:27
Matthew 5:29
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Jude 1:7
Nah you're right, certainly doesn't seem like a punishment
Revelation 20:10
Matthew 25:41
Ezekiel 32:27
Matthew 5:29
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Jude 1:7
Nah you're right, certainly doesn't seem like a punishment
Honestly, what's your point?You actually just proved my point. And I didn't need to name-call or shout.
Over and out.
Honestly, what's your point?
If you think it's obvious, I'm sorry but it's not.
You confuse me dear swan...It could be that we actually do in fact agree with one another, just our definitions are different. I honestly cannot help you see what I'm saying, ask God what I mean that I have already explained.You can't go wrong with Him. I pray your journey will be fruitful!
You confuse me dear swan...
But alright
Hell, actually the Lake of Fire, is eternal punishment; conscious punishment.
The human nature (1Co 2:14) has a hard time accepting the concept at times, especially when they do not accept God's Word on the matter.
Why have people suffer forever? Why not just annihilate them after they are cast into The Lake of Fire? Someone once gave this answer:
"Infraction against infinite righteousness deserves infinite punishment."
Sounds like a good answer. Of course people can still reject it using human reasoning.
What do you think?
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