lake of fire

  1. L

    The Book of Revelation (eis tous aiōnas tōn aiōnōn) contra Universalism

    Universalists I have come across commonly state that the lake of fire is not a place of eternal duration but of temporal duration. It may last an age and then those in it will get out as they have come to faith in Christ because the fire is not a punishment but a correction. John uses “forever...
  2. L

    John 3:36 and Universalism

    John 3:36 : “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.” I have seen some Universalists claim that John 3:36 doesn’t affect their doctrine at all. Instead they agree with it because they agree that...
  3. L

    Can Universalism be refuted without using the word "aiōnion"?

    I have seen Universalists making a big fuss about the greek word "aiōnion" and claiming that it does not mean "eternal". Which I believe that it does it is confirmed by the early church fathers and by lexicons and all translations in english. I refuse to believe that all major translations for...
  4. CoreyD

    The Second Death

    The lake of fire is the second death Revelation 20:14 King James Bible And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. New King James Version Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Death and Hades delivered up the dead who...
  5. W

    Universalism- Why a literal reading of the King James Bible may imply that everyone will be saved

    I believe in a literal interpretation of the King James Bible, but studying it as literal truth has ironically gotten me to the point where I tend to agree with Universalism (that the most likely outcome for our universe is that God gets His way and everyone is brought to Salvation). I think one...
  6. BobRyan

    Yes - hell (lake of fire) is real

    John's term -- "lake of fire" --- is pretty descriptive in its name but its context is even more descriptive -- other writers call it fiery hell - but John calls is "Lake of fire" It takes place "in the presence" of the Lamb AND of "his holy ones" - the holy angels , the saints who are with...
  7. G

    Take the world down, this cross is going to stay!

    Yes, Brethren! We have the message of Christ, it was to not give in, not despair, only hope, cherish, love - it is His Holy Spirit, that completes the message of the Cross for another generation, and from the Cross, we can see it all come to pass. That is the will of the Son, that it all be...
  8. Bible Highlighter

    A Defense of Dualistic Conditional Immortality

    Introduction: I believe in “Dualistic Conditional Immortality,” and not “Traditional Conditional Immortality.” I used to believe in “Eternal Torment” (i.e. Eternal Conscious Torment) and even defended it at one time, but I have come to find this belief to be both unbiblical and immoral. I...
  9. D

    Something's Bothering Me...

    I asked this question in the feedback section but I got no reply. I'm just wondering, who has the vote on what topic is considered "controversial" on here? Isn't there some theological bias here? I think it's unfair to have some views deemed "controversial" when maybe even most people do agree...
  10. ElxDalto

    Hell/Hades, The 1000 year reign, and the second death

    Im wanting more information on these topics, I don't go to church but I listen to sermons online for discernment reasons. It's hard to get good answers on these sorts of things. One of my big questions is about Hell, the current holding place for sinners without repentance. I listened to Bryan...
  11. Choir Loft

    CONDITIONAL IMMORTALITY - annihiliationism

    Very few people study the subject of hell. Why? Liberals don't believe in it. Conservatives think they've got all the answers, so why bother? Biblically, the assertion of the existence of hell is based upon a false premise. [Read the following very carefully.] A challenge will be issued at...
  12. Choir Loft

    CONDITIONAL IMMORTALITY

    All Christians agree that God is love, but how can a loving God condone eternal torture even for people who deserve it? The Holy See recently published a statement denying the existence of hell. This statement became immediately controversial because it seemed to deny divine justice...
  13. Greg Merrill

    The Eternality of Hell

    Hell, actually the Lake of Fire, is eternal punishment; conscious punishment. The human nature (1Co 2:14) has a hard time accepting the concept at times, especially when they do not accept God's Word on the matter. Why have people suffer forever? Why not just annihilate them after they are...
  14. T

    VISION: I WAS SHOWN THE LAKE OF FIRE THE SECOND DEATH

    In 2013 around 4 am I was taken to the Lake of Fire. I would have to say this was the 3rd most scariest thing I have ever experience. I remembering feeling myself rising out of my bed while looking down and seeing my body laying in the bed. I was thinking what is happening all while still...
  15. Douglas Hendrickson

    LAKE OF FIRE (eternal pain)

    Those who do not want to be of God and for God, God wood burn them up ... Yet knot really have HIS HEART in ... (Not suffer contamination of IS-HEART) So UNPERFECTED BEING is likely to suffer eternal pain ... Not being present with God... [Those who want the worst things of humanity - God...