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The Elven-speaking thread
- Thread starter morvaltur
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Funny rhymes seem to assist learning greatly. I still remember some of the grammatical rhymes that were taught to us back in primary school.
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some words are Quenya. but more words and grammar are may be sindarin. because i know quenya grammer. and i am going on learning Quenya.Lycana said:
ammen meldonya/meldenya! (hello my friend(to male/to female)
essenya Tarık (may name is tarık) or essenya na Tarık(more grammatical, na= is, am) or im/inye na tarık! (i am tarık)
***you cant say "essen" , because "esse" isnt a verb. when a word is a verb and ending with "-n" , it's means that 1.person sing.(i) made or makeing this action. ending with "-n" means "I", not my! if you wanna to say "my name", you can say ;
my name : esse+nya= essenya , essenya na Tarık na=am,is , nar=are
your name: esse+lya=esselya. esselya na Lycana
guet= speak, say
quet+a+n=quetan : i am speaking (continious)
quet+ne+n=quenten(nor quetnen) : i spoke (past)
quet+uva+n=quetuvan :i will speak (future)
Polin queta Quenyallo anat Umin queta Sindarin!
i cab speak quenya language but i dont speak sindarin!
note: i am not sure that "ammen" is a quenya word, may be it is Sindarin. because there isnt another word meaning "hello".
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“Tarinya yorodo, Arwen’nya, tyê nâ anvanya ar anlissi vendê Ambaron. Ortanel cuilênyana ve Anar. Lalayla Ûrêa orênya. Umin mere cuilê ûtyê. Si lasto nin!.. inyê tyê-mela... ar meluva!"
translation to english...
" my faithfull queen, my Arwen, you are the most beautiful and sweatiest girl of the world. you rised to my life like the sun. your chuckle heats my heart. i dont want to live without you. now listen to me!... i love you... and will love!"
translation to english...
" my faithfull queen, my Arwen, you are the most beautiful and sweatiest girl of the world. you rised to my life like the sun. your chuckle heats my heart. i dont want to live without you. now listen to me!... i love you... and will love!"
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Aranya,meldanya,Aragorn'nya;
Tyê nâ alca ammoma lômenyannar
Tyê nâ ûrê arringa lômenyannar
Orênya palpêa râ lê
Tyê nâ ilquanya,Aragorn'nya
İnyê tyê-mela ar meluva!
Tyê nâ alca ammoma lômenyannar
Tyê nâ ûrê arringa lômenyannar
Orênya palpêa râ lê
Tyê nâ ilquanya,Aragorn'nya
İnyê tyê-mela ar meluva!
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Is this Quenya? I recognize some of the words as Quenya, but some of it looks strange. Where is your source, or is this your own work?tarikaral said:
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i cant give you the link. there is a problem on the site. if wanna to get my source pls send me e-mail. i can give you and discribe all aboute quenya grammar. this is my own mesagge, my own work. but it is true and reliable. because i am stading quenya and i finished all tenses. my source is total 20 lessons and i finished 7 lesson! now i am studing perfect and aorist tenses.
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I was wondering the same thing. The circumflexes make the writing look more Adunaic/Numenorean than Quenya or Sindarin, which use accent marks and umlauts (those cute horizontal colons over letters).morvaltur said:
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Mae Govannen, tarikaral - you are most welcome!!tarikaral said:
"ammen" is a sindarin word which means us - it was used in the movie The Two Towers, when Arwen comes to Aragorn in a dream/ vision and he is not sure what he should do. She says:
Ae ú-esteliach nad, estelio han. Estelio ammen. *If you trust nothing else, trust this, trust us.*
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Aww thanksmorvaltur said:
Actually I didn't have to research that, I knew "ammen" from when I would quote the elvish in the movies - cos most of it's Sindarin, I decided to focus more on that.
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morvaltur said:
i have been learning Quenya aboute 2 months. but before starting learning i had searched Elvish and i collected all believable sources. now i am going on to learning and i have finished all tenses today. the quenya course that i have it is total 20 lessons. i have finished 8 lesson.
i am peresently going to teach Quenya
i and my girl friend,we meeted with a well-known English Course in our city for teaching Quenya. and the course mannager agree with us. i will teach Quenya grammar and my friend will get practice lessons)
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Tarikaral - do you have an english translation for this?? I'm not a Quenya student... my specialty is Sindarintarikaral said:
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Wormie said:Tarikaral - do you have an english translation for this?? I'm not a Quenya student... my specialty is Sindarin
Aranya,meldanya,Aragorn'nya;
Tyê nâ alca ammoma lômenyannar
Tyê nâ ûrê arringa lômenyannar
Orênya palpêa râ lê
Tyê nâ ilquanya,Aragorn'nya
İnyê tyê-mela ar meluva!
my king, my dear, my Aragorn;
you are light of my darkest nights
you are heat of my coldest nights
my heart beats for you
you are my everything,my Aragorn
i love you and will love
*** this is my friend's own work!
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That's beautiful, tarikaral! And you can tell your friend I said so!
Actually, this kind of thing does fill a subtle gap in LOTR; Tolkien was not known for portraying love and desire. Faramir and Eowyn get their due as lovers (I greatly regret that that love story was not shown in the movie!), but I've often wished we read more of Aragorn and Arwen's love than we find in Tolkien's Appendix. Aragorn's boldness that led him to court a High Elven Princess, Arwen's deep desire that leads her to abandon her Elven immortality--these are worth their own epic.
Actually, this kind of thing does fill a subtle gap in LOTR; Tolkien was not known for portraying love and desire. Faramir and Eowyn get their due as lovers (I greatly regret that that love story was not shown in the movie!), but I've often wished we read more of Aragorn and Arwen's love than we find in Tolkien's Appendix. Aragorn's boldness that led him to court a High Elven Princess, Arwen's deep desire that leads her to abandon her Elven immortality--these are worth their own epic.
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