The Democratic Safe House

[GodLovesCats]

The delegate count is not tied. Pete Buttigieg's total was one tenth of one percent higher and that was enough for him to officially win the state. I want to know why there can't be a recount on the closest race in Iowa history.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Correction: Florida's Election Day is March 17. That day I will not be wearing green.

 

[Halbhh]

See below for the delegate and popular vote tally in Iowa, with 100% reporting. Perez (the national chair of DNC said that there possibly could be minor changes, and that all the current questions have been addressed.

Bernie did indeed win the popular vote, as he said. Of course, as in the national election, that does matter in the determining of delegates.

Mayor Pete won the initial delegate count of delegate equivalents. However, the actual delegate count will be tied. I don't think that this count included the super delegates, who I presume don't need to commit at this point.

2020 Iowa Democratic Caucus Election Results | Des Moines Register

Impressive stuff in the debate tonight. You could actually just pick at random on a democratic ballot and likely have a choice with good ideas. Also, great performance by Amy. Really surprised. Encouraging. Sanders often smart. Buttigieg really good. Improvements for every candidate. Actually interesting stuff over and over. Impressive. The field is really better than expected. It's hard to choose.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I will be tracking election results in every state and territory before it is my turn to vote. Then I can see if Bernie Sanders actually is the best candidate to run against Donald Trump. But I can't imagine wanting to support someone who is open to cutting Social Security and Medicare and raising the retirement age next month, so Joe Biden is unlikely to get my vote.

 

[mark46]

I will be tracking election results in every state and territory before it is my turn to vote. Then I can see if Bernie Sanders actually is the best candidate to run against Donald Trump. But I can't imagine wanting to support someone who is open to cutting Social Security and Medicare and raising the retirement age next month, so Joe Biden is unlikely to get my vote.

and I can't see the party supporting a socialist

both claims are equally true

 

[GodLovesCats]

And I can't see the party supporting a socialist.

Both claims are equally true

Bernie Sanders is not and never has been a socialist.

I can't vote for Pete Buttigieg because he has never been a state or federal elected politician. Experience is extremely important to me.

 

[mark46]

Bernie Sanders is not and never has been a socialist.

I can't vote for Pete Buttigieg because he has never been a state or federal elected politician. Experience is extremely important to me.

I agree. And Biden is the strongest supporter of Social Security and Medicare among those running for the presidency.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I agree. And Biden is the strongest supporter of Social Security and Medicare among those running for the presidency.

No, Sanders is. Biden is opposed to eliminating the health care industry, preferring to just make everyone eligible for Medicare. Sanders is Medicare or bust.

 

[GACfan]

I hope Bernie Sanders receives the Democratic nomination in the upcoming presidential election. I will more than likely vote Third Party again if he doesn't. I'm not voting for Trump and I know I can't vote for Biden in good conscience. I'm honestly fed up with both the Republicans and the Democrats.

 

[GodLovesCats]

It would shock everyone at this point if Joe Biden stays in the race after St. Patrick's Day. If he can't even win Nevada, which has a lot of Latinos, I should not see his name on my ballot.

 

[mark46]

It will be interesting to me to see the minority voter share for Klobuchar and Buttegieg in NV and SC. Both of these candidates are under 1% at the moment.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Do you think the idea that they have no black support is misleading, considering they live in the Midwest?

 

[mark46]

Do you think the idea that they have no black support is misleading, considering they live in the Midwest?

Indiana's black percentage is 9.2%, not far to the national average of 12%, MN is 8%

 

[mark46]

Klobuchar and Mayor Pete now have the same issues. They will compete in NV and SC, states with very, very large minority Democratic participation. Both also need to raise money and hire staff to be able to run effectively on Super Tuesday, in many states with diversity [and in the 2 weeks thereafter]. The added problem is that the almost all the ad space has already been purchased by Bloomberg, and to a lesser degree by Steyer.

Half the delegates will be decided in one month, starting in Feb 22 in NV. Raising and effectively spending $150M or so is a difficult task. They can't win by going to small rallies and people's homes.
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Also, it's not as if no one has been active in NV and SC. Bernie and Biden are doing very well in NV. Bernie, Biden and Steyer have been doing very well in SC. All three have extensive local staffs and support.

 

[mark46]

It would shock everyone at this point if Joe Biden stays in the race after St. Patrick's Day. If he can't even win Nevada, which has a lot of Latinos, I should not see his name on my ballot.

I expect that Bernie and Biden will be the top two in NV, and in SC.

 

[mark46]

The delegate count is not tied. Pete Buttigieg's total was one tenth of one percent higher and that was enough for him to officially win the state. I want to know why there can't be a recount on the closest race in Iowa history.

Currently, Mayor Pete leads the delegate race by 2, having gotten the same number of delegates as Bernie in NH.

 

[GodLovesCats]

This time the winner of the popular vote could not be disputed. Bernie Sanders won a lot more votes so it does not matter that they have the same number of delegates in New Hampshire.

 

[mark46]

This time the winner of the popular vote could not be disputed. Bernie Sanders won a lot more votes so it does not matter that they have the same number of delegates in New Hampshire.

I would only point out that it is delegates that will determine the nominee, and it is electoral college delegates that will determine the presidency. Focusing on the popular vote can be misleading.

It is in the Republican Party primaries where all the delegates go to the winner of the popular vote. In the Democratic Party, delegates are awarded statewide, by district, and in other ways. The systems are a variation of proportional state-wide, with those candidates under 15% not getting any delegates.

 

[GodLovesCats]

It does not make any sense. Why don't the parties agree to vote the same way everywhere and count the delegates the same way? I can never stop being a Democrat, but am really sick and tired of the primaries not being won or lost by popular vote totals.

 

[Arcangl86]

It does not make any sense. Why don't the parties agree to vote the same way everywhere and count the delegates the same way? I can never stop being a Democrat, but am really sick and tired of the primaries not being won or lost by popular vote totals.

A proportional vote is fairer and it makes more sense in a race with so many people. Otherwise all the votes in a state can go to somebody with 85% of the state voting for somebody else.