The Danger of Creationism

[BPPLEE]

What have you read on the subject?

Enough to make me skeptical

 

[Astrid]

I wonder how it survived in the first place

No competition, no predators?

 

[Astrid]

Enough to make me skeptical

Seems like the more a person knows the less of that they can find.

In all honesty, your questions are not ones that
suggest much study.

 

[BPPLEE]

Seems like the more a person knows the less of that they can find.

In all honesty, your questions are not ones that
suggest much study.

The subject was geology. I only asked if there was absolute proof

 

[BPPLEE]

Seems like the more a person knows the less of that they can find.

In all honesty, your questions are not ones that
suggest much study.

This thread was about the dangers of creationism. I haven't seen any evidence provided that it is dangerous.

 

[Astrid]

The subject was geology. I only asked if there was absolute proof

Ive intended nothing but " all it good fun" taking digs at you, and
as far as i can tell, youve been equally light hesrted returning them.
So thats all good?

By way of, dont take it wrong, but asking for proof or any absolutes
in any aspect of science is kind of unsophisticated.

There is no such thing in science as either of those.

Theres data, there's probabilities, but never proof.

For simple stuff, take gas laws. Like that gas expands on
being heated. There is an excellent explanation for why,
and loads of data on details. Plenty for a Law.
It has always worked

But as nobody can test all gasses under all possible conditions
you cannot say its impossible that there is an exception.
One exception= no law.
So the law is not proved though the chance that it will be is
vanishingly small.

Make sense?

 

[Astrid]

This thread was about the dangers of creationism. I haven't seen any evidence provided that it is dangerous.

Thats hsardly a response to what i said but,
how many examples do you need of the dangers of
ignorance?

 

[BPPLEE]

Ive intended nothing but " all it good fun" taking digs at you, and
as far as i can tell, youve been equally light hesrted returning them.
So thats all good?

By way of, dont take it wrong, but asking for proof or any absolutes
in any aspect of science is kind of unsophisticated.

There is no such thing in science as either of those.

Theres data, there's probabilities, but never proof.

For simple stuff, take gas laws. Like that gas expands on
being heated. There is an excellent explanation for why,
and loads of data on details. Plenty for a Law.
It has always worked

But as nobody can test all gasses under all possible conditions
you cannot say its impossible that there is an exception.
One exception= no law.
So the law is not proved though the chance that it will be is
vanishingly small.

Make sense?

Yes it does.

 

[BPPLEE]

Thats hsardly a response to what i said but,
how many examples do you need of the dangers of
ignorance?

Belief that the world was created not by random chance but that there was a God in control of it is not dangerous.

 

[Astrid]

Yes it does.

So...no more about proof?

 

[BPPLEE]

Thats hsardly a response to what i said but,
how many examples do you need of the dangers of
ignorance?

Ignorance is a lack of knowledge belief that there is a creator doesn't necessarily indicate a lack of knowledge about anything

 

[Astrid]

Belief that the world was created not by random chance but that there was a God in control of it is not dangerous.

Of course. But
There is a whole lot more to creationism than that,
as you obviously know.
As you know that ignorance has endless potential
for risk.
Is that even in dispute?

 

[BPPLEE]

So...no more about proof?

Leaves room for skepticism

 

[Hans Blaster]

Enough to make me skeptical

From your statements about radioactive dating methods, it sure looks like you've been reading the literature of the various creationists about dating methods. I've seen those works as have many here and they are not only wrong, but most are deliberately so.

 

[BPPLEE]

Of course. But
There is a whole lot more to creationism than that,
as you obviously know.
As you know that ignorance has endless potential
for risk.
Is that even in dispute?

Yes I dealt with ignorant people for 16 years as a law enforcement officer and 14 in private security. Ignorance has endless potential. Choosing to believe that there was a creator does not indicate ignorance.

 

[ottawak]

Belief that the world was created not by random chance but that there was a God in control of it is not dangerous.

Not in itself. But that belief does not constitute creationism as the term is usually used in this forum.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yes I dealt with ignorant people for 16 years as a law enforcement officer and 14 in private security. Ignorance has endless potential. Choosing to believe that there was a creator does not indicate ignorance.

I begin to wonder if you know what ignorance is. Ignorance is not knowing something, including because you didn't try to learn it.

Those "ignorant people" you dealt with, were they the ones that claimed they didn't see any crime or didn't know what they were doing last Tuesday evening? (Or did you harass citizens about Jesus? I hope not.)

 

[BPPLEE]

Not in itself. But that belief does not constitute creationism as the term is usually used in this forum.

Even if someone believes the earth was created in 6 24 hour days and man was created from dust that does not make them dangerous or ignorant just because they believe something different than you. No one was there to witness the creation so we are all making guesses about what happened.

 

[ottawak]

Even if someone believes the earth was created in 6 24 hour days and man was created from dust that does not make them dangerous or ignorant just because they believe something different than you. No one was there to witness the creation so we are all making guesses about what happened.

Some "guesses" are better than others. Some even have evidence to support them. Others have no evidence to support them and in some cases (biblical creationism, for example) there is considerable evidence which contradicts them.

 

[Astrid]

Leaves room for skepticism

There is such a thing as reasonable doubt.
Data - free, doubt or


Are you skeptical about the gas laws?

Yes I dealt with ignorant people for 16 years as a law enforcement officer and 14 in private security. Ignorance has endless potential. Choosing to believe that there was a creator does not indicate ignorance.

All good.
But if that is all that creationism is to
you, what is your problem with evolution?