The Consequences of Creationism

[PrincetonGuy]

F.B.,

Thank you for the two links!

 

[EvoDan]

Opethian,

... but there is NO EVIDENCE of any kind whatsoever that God does not exist. And, of course, we have the testimonies of countless people who have come to know God that God really does exist...

Hey Opethian,

There is absolutely no evidence that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny do not exist either, and I can get a whole class of third graders to testify that they do.

Welcome to the forum. Hang in there.

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Hey Opethian,



There is absolutely no evidence that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny do not exist either, and I can get a whole class of third graders to testify that they do.



Welcome to the forum. Hang in there.

You left out one half of the logic!!! There is no evidence that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny do exist. BUT there are countless volumes of evidence that God does exist. Therefore, to compare belief in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny to belief in God is radically illogical.

 

[Gracchus]

You left out one half of the logic!!! There is no evidence that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny do exist. BUT there are countless volumes of evidence that God does exist. Therefore, to compare belief in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny to belief in God is radically illogical.

Please post your evidence. Hearsay is not admissable. You provide a falsifiable hypothesis. Show how it has been tested.

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Please post your evidence. Hearsay is not admissable. You provide a falsifiable hypothesis. Show how it has been tested.

To automatically reject as "hearsay" the testimony to the truth by millions of men, women and children who have known God is to automatically make a fool of one's self.

 

[Guywiththehead]

To automatically reject as "hearsay" the testimony to the truth by millions of men, women and children who have known God is to automatically make a fool of one's self.

Millions of people have known Santa Claus so Santa Claus also has massive evidence, along with Allah, the Hindu gods, Judaism, and atheism, among others.

 

[Arik Soong]

Millions of people have known Santa Claus so Santa Claus also has massive evidence, along with Allah, the Hindu gods, Judaism, and atheism, among others.

Also, there are some nuts who say they were abducted by aliens. Does their testimony render that true?

 

[Hydra009]

To automatically reject as "hearsay" the testimony to the truth by millions of men, women and children who have known God is to automatically make a fool of one's self.

Well, unverified information from others is known to be notoriously unreliable, and thererefore, it isn't very bright to assess belief systems based on the convictions of its adherents. Rather, a belief system (or claim) should stand or fall on its own merits.

You can name just about anything and there's bound to be someone who has a personal testimony in favor of it; someone who thinks they saw a ghost, someone who can personally vouch for snake oil medicine, someone who thinks he/she was abducted by aliens, etc. Needless to say, taking hearsay at face value is a very bad idea.

 

[john crawford]

Like I said, John is a one trick pony. The false racist claim is the only card he has to play so he plays it over and over again.
F.B.

If you click on the link to visit the Human Ancestors Hall at the Smithsonian Institute you will see a diagram showing the 'species' African people who neo-Darwinsts claim originated from species of African apes.

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html

Since there is not a shred of scientifically testable and demonstrable EVIDENCE in support of the racial ASSUMPTION that "primitive" African people originated from African apes, phylogenic taxonomies presented as 'evidence' of human evolution in Africa only reveal the racial prejudice and bigotry of those who construct them and try to pass them off to an unsuspecting public as 'science.'

 

[TheBear]

 

[Hydra009]

hehe, africanus sounds a lot like african. Racism proven.

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Millions of people have known Santa Claus so Santa Claus also has massive evidence, along with Allah, the Hindu gods, Judaism, and atheism, among others.

Do you know Santa Claus? Do you know anyone who does?

 

[Guywiththehead]

Do you know Santa Claus? Do you know anyone who does?

Of course. He's the big red bearded guy who gives us all presents on Christmas.

Predicted response: Oh, we really know God because I feel all warm and fuzzy inside when I'm praying. Does Santa Claus give you warm and fuzzy feelings?

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Of course. He's the big red bearded guy who gives us all presents on Christmas.

Predicted response: Oh, we really know God because I feel all warm and fuzzy inside when I'm praying. Does Santa Claus give you warm and fuzzy feelings?

There is a BIG difference between knowing who someone is said to be and actually knowing someone. And do you believe that knowing God in a personal, meaningful and dynamic way is simply to have a warm and fuzzy feeling inside when praying?

 

[Elduran]

There is a BIG difference between knowing who someone is said to be and actually knowing someone. And do you believe that knowing God in a personal, meaningful and dynamic way is simply to have a warm and fuzzy feeling inside when praying?

I MET santa a few years back. He gave me a chocolate version of himself.

It's more evidence for Santa than I ever saw for God I'm afraid.

 

[Dannager]

To automatically reject as "hearsay" the testimony to the truth by millions of men, women and children who have known God is to automatically make a fool of one's self.

The key word there is "testimony". Testimony is not evidence yet I see it presented as such all the time here. Please do not make the mistake of confusing the two. To do so is fatal to your argument.

 

[Tomk80]

If you click on the link to visit the Human Ancestors Hall at the Smithsonian Institute you will see a diagram showing the 'species' African people who neo-Darwinsts claim originated from species of African apes.

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/a_tree.html

Since there is not a shred of scientifically testable and demonstrable EVIDENCE in support of the racial ASSUMPTION that "primitive" African people originated from African apes, phylogenic taxonomies presented as 'evidence' of human evolution in Africa only reveal the racial prejudice and bigotry of those who construct them and try to pass them off to an unsuspecting public as 'science.'

Browse through the rest of the website. The evidence is right there. Your unwillingness to study it or inability to understand it does not make it false.

 

[Opethian]

Your unwillingness to study it or inability to understand it does not make it false

I'm always wondering if it might be the case the exact opposite of that sentence in relation to science is hidden somewhere in the holy books?

 

[TheBear]

Pay particular attention to the lower right of the chart.

 

[EvoDan]

Do you know Santa Claus? Do you know anyone who does?

Well, yeah: the third graders I mentioned. Their testimony is every bit as valid as that of your "believers."