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The common thread in Trump's defenders

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Listen hard. Not one says he didn't do the acts for which he was convicted.
Instead, they say:
He shouldn't have been charged.
The crimes were committed too long ago (2016).
He has not been convicted of federal election fraud. Not yet!
They quibble about NY state law.
They say the trial should have been in Staten Island.

But not one says, "He never did those things."

And let's face it, those things were 110% immoral and unethical.
I have.....And will again........He did not violate election law. There you go. A non disclosure agreement is not illegal, nor is it a campaign contribution.
 
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Notice how the thread became about failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton instead of the convicted felon that is currently being positioned to be president for a second term.
Of course it did. Why shouldn't it?
 
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Of course it did. Why shouldn't it?
Because former Secretary Clinton isn’t the topic of the thread and is only being brought in as a distraction from the currently convicted felon former president who is the leading nominee for the RNC.
 
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Because former Secretary Clinton isn’t the topic of the thread and is only being brought in as a distraction from the currently convicted felon former president who is the leading nominee for the RNC.
Well are you not talking about Trumps crimes or not?
 
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Listen hard. Not one says he didn't do the acts for which he was convicted.
Instead, they say:
He shouldn't have been charged.
The crimes were committed too long ago (2016).
He has not been convicted of federal election fraud. Not yet!
They quibble about NY state law.
They say the trial should have been in Staten Island.

But not one says, "He never did those things."

And let's face it, those things were 110% immoral and unethical.
Because whether he did anything or not is irrelevant. Even if he did, there is no reason to prosecute Trump for a federal offense in a state court long after the statute of limitations. Furthermore, in order to extend the statute, the prosecution had to show that the documents were intentionally falsified to cover up a federal crime. Even though he was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying documents, what federal crime did Trump commit that he was covering up? Answer: nobody knows and it doesn't matter. I would wager that the same people who are criticizing others for questioning the legitimacy of the case will be the same people crying foul if Trump appeals and is exonerated. Even if the convictions are tossed, the left will still lable Trump as a "convicted felon." Why? Because, as the democrats say, "Nobody is above the law." So Hillary Clinton is a nobody. Joe Biden is a nobody. Eric Swalwell is a nobody. Hunter Biden is a nobody. The BLM rioters and looters are a nobody. Basically anyone with a "D" in front of their name is a nobody. Which is why they are above the law. But Trump is a somebody. The concerned parents refusing to accept transgender ideology in schools are a somebody. The millions of people who dare to question the "nobodies" are somebody. Therefore, they deserve to be made an example of.
 
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There are two Democrats, Menendez and Cuellar, under indictment, but they are not ranting and raving and threatening the way the convicted felon has been doing.

He thinks everyone should share his outrage. Not me! The convicted felon causes my outrage.
 
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Listen hard. Not one says he didn't do the acts for which he was convicted.
Instead, they say:
He shouldn't have been charged.
The crimes were committed too long ago (2016).
He has not been convicted of federal election fraud. Not yet!
They quibble about NY state law.
They say the trial should have been in Staten Island.

But not one says, "He never did those things."

And let's face it, those things were 110% immoral and unethical.
Well, he did NOT do the bookkeeping, the misdemeanor that was revived from its expired state to attach to a felony. Someone else handled the books. The felony is an unknown, since the jurors were told to "pick one" by the judge and didn't have to reveal what crime he committed.
 
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Because whether he did anything or not is irrelevant. Even if he did, there is no reason to prosecute Trump for a federal offense in a state court long after the statute of limitations. Furthermore, in order to extend the statute, the prosecution had to show that the documents were intentionally falsified to cover up a federal crime. Even though he was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying documents, what federal crime did Trump commit that he was covering up? Answer: nobody knows and it doesn't matter.

No, you don't know what the crime is. Those of us who've paid attention to the case and read something this side of The Federalist, do know.


I would wager that the same people who are criticizing others for questioning the legitimacy of the case will be the same people crying foul if Trump appeals and is exonerated.

I start to take the questions of legitimacy a lot more seriously when the people asking them are at least aware of the details of the case.


Even if the convictions are tossed, the left will still lable Trump as a "convicted felon." Why? Because, as the democrats say, "Nobody is above the law." So Hillary Clinton is a nobody. Joe Biden is a nobody. Eric Swalwell is a nobody. Hunter Biden is a nobody. The BLM rioters and looters are a nobody. Basically anyone with a "D" in front of their name is a nobody. Which is why they are above the law. But Trump is a somebody. The concerned parents refusing to accept transgender ideology in schools are a somebody. The millions of people who dare to question the "nobodies" are somebody. Therefore, they deserve to be made an example of.
Last I checked, Hunter Biden is being prosecuted.
 
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Notice how the thread became about failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton instead of the convicted felon that is currently being positioned to be president for a second term.

Well of course.
Deflecting and implying "everyone else does it" (often falsly) is necessary when defending you know who.

I don't know about everyone else, but if I told my parents "but Billy did it too" I would have received a butt whooping -- not for the offense, but for trying to justify it based on what others have done.

It seems Donald Trump, nor his supporters, belive in this principle.
 
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He was president for four years. So we don't have to guess what he'll be like as president. It's going to be more of the same as before. Either people were happy or okay with that or they weren't. But it's not like he's been untried.

No, it will not be the same.
Trump will surround himself with loyalists....in key positions across the government including the Pentagon.
There will be no one to stop his dangerous or illegal orders as in the 1st go around.
 
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Well of course.
Deflecting and implying "everyone else does it" (often falsly) is necessary when defending you know who.

I don't know about everyone else, but if I told my parents "but Billy did it too" I would have received a butt whooping -- not for the offense, but for trying to justify it based on what others have done.

It seems Donald Trump, nor his supporters, belive in this principle.
What gets me is how they absolve him of any responsibility when it comes to wrongdoing yet they want to place him in the most responsible position on earth.
 
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What gets me is how they absolve him of any responsibility when it comes to wrongdoing yet they want to place him in the most responsible position on earth.

Personal responsbility is not a MAGA value.
 
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No, you don't know what the crime is. Those of us who've paid attention to the case and read something this side of The Federalist, do know.
What was the crime Trump was trying to hide when he supposedly falsified the documents? I will wait because even the prosecutors and the jury didn't know.
 
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