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What's interesting is that God seemed to give them a king who would be a curse to them....perhaps He was teaching them something through this experience? They had outright rejected God and in essence said to God that He wasn't "good enough or worthy enough" to be their King. It's a wonder He didn't outright strike THEM with light'ning for being so outright insulting to Him.
 
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What's interesting is that God seemed to give them a king who would be a curse to them....perhaps He was teaching them something through this experience? They had outright rejected God and in essence said to God that He wasn't "good enough or worthy enough" to be their King. It's a wonder He didn't outright strike THEM with light'ning for being so outright insulting to Him.

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There is an old saying A FRIEND IN NEED, IS A FRIEND INDEED.

It seems to me that the Israelites only turned to God in times of trouble.

At other times they turned to other gods.
 
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I Samuel Chapter 11

The Ammonites came up to attack Israel. The residents of Jabesh tried to make peace with the Ammonites. But the Ammonites would only make peace if the people of Jabesh all agreed to be blinded in their right eye.

On this condition will I make a covenant with you, that I may thrust out all your right eyes.
Chapter 11 verse 2
 
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I Samuel Chapter 11

Saul led the Israelites to a great victory over the Ammonites.

And all the people went to Gilgal; and there they made Saul king before the Lord in Gilgal; and there they sacrificed sacrifices of peace offerings before the Lord; and there Saul and all the men of Israel rejoiced greatly.

Chapter 11 verse 15

Quiz Questions
1/ Who was the first king of Israel ?
2/ What prophet anointed the first king of Israel ?
 
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I Samuel Chapter 11

The Ammonites came up to attack Israel. The residents of Jabesh tried to make peace with the Ammonites. But the Ammonites would only make peace if the people of Jabesh all agreed to be blinded in their right eye.

On this condition will I make a covenant with you, that I may thrust out all your right eyes.
Chapter 11 verse 2

That's crazy...who would agree to that?
 
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I Samuel Chapter 11

Saul led the Israelites to a great victory over the Ammonites.

And all the people went to Gilgal; and there they made Saul king before the Lord in Gilgal; and there they sacrificed sacrifices of peace offerings before the Lord; and there Saul and all the men of Israel rejoiced greatly.

Chapter 11 verse 15

Quiz Questions
1/ Who was the first king of Israel ?
2/ What prophet anointed the first king of Israel ?

Wasn't it Saul? And Samuel anointed him?
 
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Israel had no swords or spears

It seems that the Philistines were dominating Israel at this time. There were so smiths allowed in Israel in case the Israelites make weapons to fight the Philistines. So the Israelites sharpened farming equipment such as forks and axes to make weapons.
Chapter 13 verse 19

Saul and Jonathan were the only two people who had swords.
Chapter 13 verse 22
 
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And the Philistines gathered themselves together to fight with Israel, thirty thousand chariots, six thousand horsemen, and people as the sand which is on the sea shore in multitude.

Chapter 13 verse 5

I Samuel Chapter 14

When the battle started God confused the enemy and they stared fighting each other. In this way the mighty host of Philistines was destroyed.
Chapter 14 verse 20
 
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Saul gave an order that no-one should eat on the day of the battle until evening. His son Jonathan ate some wild honey. Saul was furious and considered executing his son Jonathan for eating the wild honey. But changed his mind.
Chapter 14 verse 44

For the rest of his life Saul fought wars with the Philistines.
Chapter 14 verse 52
 
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Saul gave an order that no-one should eat on the day of the battle until evening. His son Jonathan ate some wild honey. Saul was furious and considered executing his son Jonathan for eating the wild honey. But changed his mind.
Chapter 13 verse 44

For the rest of his life Saul fought wars with the Philistines.
Chapter 13 verse 52

Interestingly enough, the people were on Jonathan's side because Jonathan had done all the righteous things and Saul had done lost his mind and:

~he didn't have a sane reason at all to decree that ludicrous order that no one eat, especially after the men were weary and starving after fighting the battle.

~Jonathan had ALREADY won the battle (Saul hadn't), and EVERYONE knew that and when Saul was gonna kill his own son Jonathan (based on a decree Saul never should've made fgrom the gitgo) none of them would raise a hand against Jonathan.

They all knew that Saul was attempting to bring evil against his own son Jonathan, without cause.

Check out verses 3 and 4:

3 And Jonathan smote the garrison of the Philistines that was in Geba, and the Philistines heard of it. And Saul blew the trumpet throughout all the land, saying, Let the Hebrews hear.

4 And all Israel heard say that Saul had smitten a garrison of the Philistines, and that Israel also was had in abomination with the Philistines. And the people were called together after Saul to Gilgal.

Jonathan had gotten the victory and Saul attempted to claim credit for it. Saul lied.

Check out verses 9-11:

9 And Saul said, Bring hither a burnt offering to me, and peace offerings. And he offered the burnt offering.

10 And it came to pass, that as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, behold, Samuel came; and Saul went out to meet him, that he might salute him.

11 And Samuel said, What hast thou done? And Saul said, Because I saw that the people were scattered from me, and that thou camest not within the days appointed, and that the Philistines gathered themselves together at Michmash;

Saul presumed to be a "priest" and offer the burnt offering, even as he knew it was an abomination to do so. Then he lied to Samuel, the prophet and said he was "forced" to offer the offering.
 
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I Samuel Chapter 14

When the battle started God confused the enemy and they stared fighting each other. In this way the mighty host of Philistines was destroyed.
Chapter 14 verse 20

Brinny

I took this to mean that God had caused the Philistines to fight each other in order to give the victory to the Israelites.
 
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Saul gave an order that no-one should eat on the day of the battle until evening. His son Jonathan ate some wild honey. Saul was furious and considered executing his son Jonathan for eating the wild honey. But changed his mind.
Chapter 14 verse 44

For the rest of his life Saul fought wars with the Philistines.
Chapter 14 verse 52

Brinny

Yes we see on a number of occasions in Chapter 14 that Saul has some very strange and unpleasant ways.
 
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