The Chapter-A-Day thread. (2)

[rick357]

Let's look at the word "treason". This is what happened when there was one that wanted to be as the Most High God. That is treason. That, because of where the treason originated, and the one that committed it had no "tempter", was an abominably unforgiveable act/intention, that there is no remedy for against the wrath of God towards that one that commited such a treason.

It was treacherous. Treason. Incurring the wrath of God.

By your understanding why then does he bring his wrath against any man since all are tempted....Also the scripture says Eve was decieved but Adam just took it and ate. Hell is for all ungodly tempted or not....
Maybe Im not seeing what your saying?

 

[rick357]

Maybe you mean rebellion as treason is to betray ones country for anouther.....or maybe you said what you mean and Im not seeing something.

 

[brinny]

perhaps yer not, brother.

I'm speaking of a "high treason" of sorts, that was in heavenly places where it was committed. Where there is NO Hope of a Savior to atone for the one who committed it, ever. This one is DOOMED fer-ever n' ever. There is NO Remedy.

 

[rick357]

perhaps yer not, brother.

I'm speaking of a "high treason" of sorts, that was in heavenly places where it was committed. Where there is NO Hope of a Savior to atone for the one who committed it, ever. This one is DOOMED fer-ever n' ever. There is NO Remedy.

I see...of course I see God giving all that chance because I dont see that one or that event in the same way.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

perhaps yer not, brother.

I'm speaking of a "high treason" of sorts, that was in heavenly places where it was committed. Where there is NO Hope of a Savior to atone for the one who committed it, ever. This one is DOOMED fer-ever n' ever. There is NO Remedy.

Brinny I think there is alway a chance for repentance. But if you were a king like Jeroboam and you led a whole nation against God. And led them to worship two golden calves, instead the Lord God of Israel. Then that is a very serious sin indeed.

I dont really like the word treason. But if a person is a Christian and by your behaviour to lead then astray, then you are a wolf stealing Gods sheep. I think that leading believers astray is a serious sin.

 

[brinny]

I wasn't speaking of a human that trespassed with the high treason, brother.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

perhaps yer not, brother.

I'm speaking of a "high treason" of sorts, that was in heavenly places where it was committed. Where there is NO Hope of a Savior to atone for the one who committed it, ever. This one is DOOMED fer-ever n' ever. There is NO Remedy.

Brinny the remedy would be to try to undo the damage you have done.

Jeroboam could have smashed the golden calves taken Israel back to God.

 

[brinny]

see post #826, brother.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 17

This is a truely wondful chapter about the profit Eiljah.

Elijah tells Ahab that there will be a drought for 3 years.

A poor widow gave Elijah food. Her last bit from a barrel of meal.

And a tiny bit from a cruse of oil.

For thus saith the Lord God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until that day that the Lord sendeth rain upon the earth.
Verse 14

That was one of my favourite stories as a child. The poor widow trusted in God. Elijah did this miracle through the power of God. The oil and the barrel of mean did not run out until the drought was over.

And for good measure Elijah brought her son back to life, after her son had died.
Verse 22

What a truly wonderful chapter this is from the Holy Bible.

 

[rick357]

*[[1Ki 17:5-6]] KJV*
%v 5% So he went and did according unto the word of the LORD: for he went and dwelt by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
%v 6% And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.

Ah yes!...the glamorous life of the man of God...it would seem no one told Elijah adout the mansion and chariot he would recieve for obediance...wait he did get a mansion and a chariot just not of the dust of the earth.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

*[[1Ki 17:5-6]] KJV*
%v 5% So he went and did according unto the word of the LORD: for he went and dwelt by the brook Cherith, that is before Jordan.
%v 6% And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.

Ah yes!...the glamorous life of the man of God...it would seem no one told Elijah adout the mansion and chariot he would recieve for obediance...wait he did get a mansion and a chariot just not of the dust of the earth.

Rick357,

Are you referring to the fact that Elijah did not die ?
Elijah was taken up to heaven in a chariot.

Behold there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a wirlwind into heaven.
2 Kings 2 verse 11

 

[rick357]

Rick357,

Are you referring to the fact that Elijah did not die ?
Elijah was taken up to heaven in a chariot.

Behold there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a wirlwind into heaven.
2 Kings 2 verse 11

My main point was about the hard living Elijah did on this side of heaven...but the last point was to say that many today seek the wealth of this passing world but Elijah found an eternal wealth.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 18

Obadiah was an adviser to Ahab. He saved 100 prophets from Jezabel by hiding them in a cave and feeding them. Obadiah brought Ahab to meet Elijah.

Elijah challenged the prophets of Baal to see whose god could set fire to a sacrifice on an altar.

Baal did nothing. But when Elijah called on God, the fire was so fierce that it burnt the sacrifice, the altar stones, and the water that Elijah had poured over the altar.

The people fell on their faces and said THE LORD, HE IS THE GOD (verse 39).

Eight hundred and fifty prophets of Baal were gathered for the challenge (verse 19).

Elijah told the people to kill all the prophets of Baal, and the people slew them (verse 40).

Elijah saw a cloud the size of a man's over the sea.

God sent Elijah to Ahab to warn about the coming storm (verse 44)

Ahab rode in his chariot to Jezreel. But with God's help Elijah out ran the chariot (verse 46)

 

[rick357]

Love the showdown at Carmel...realy love how Elijah goes the extra mile to remove all doubt that it could be a trick...then God goes extra and burns even the alter....such an event ...such a spectacle...it certainly whipped those there into a frenzy....yet when the fire from God fell on Jesus and judged him with all severity for our sins we hear Elijah once more...

*[[1 Kings 18:21]]

*ISV* where Elijah approached all the people and asked them, “How long will you keep hesitating between both sides? If the LORD is God, go after him. If Baal, go after him.” But the people didn’t say a word.

*KJV* And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

*NHEB* Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you keep limping between two positions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” But the people did not answer him a word.

*NHEB-ME* Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you keep limping between two positions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” But the people did not answer him a word.

*RNKJV* And EliYah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if יהוה be Elohim, follow him: but if the Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

*TS1998* And Ěliyahu came to all the people, and said, “How long would you keep hopping between two opinions? If יהוה is Elohim, follow Him; and if Baʽal, follow him.” But the people answered him not a word.

*WEB* Elijah came near to all the people, and said, “How long will you waver between the two sides? If Yahweh is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” The people didn’t say a word.

*YLT* and Elijah cometh nigh unto all the people, and saith, `Till when are ye leaping on the two branches? --if Jehovah is God, go after Him; and if Baal, go after him;' and the people have not answered him a word.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 19

Jezebel threatened the life of Elijah, so he fled to Judah (verse 2).

Elijah sat under a juniper tree, and prayed to die (verse 4).

An angel gave Elijah some food to eat (verse 5).

As Elijah slept the angel gave him more food (verse 7)

After the angels meal Elijah did not eat for 40 days (verse 8).

Elijah was told to stand on a mountain.

The mountian was hit by a wind, earthquake, fire and a still small voice (verse 11).

God was in the still small voice (verse 12).

God said annoint Hazael to be king of Syria (verse15).

God said annoint Jehu to be king of Iarael (verse 16)

God said annoint Elisha to be a prophet (verse 16)

The objective of these appointments was to kill those who worshiped Baal (verse 17)

 

[rick357]

We may lose sight of the why of what God is doing in us...but he does not

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

We may lose sight of the why of what God is doing in us...but he does not

Rick357

1 Kings Chapter 19

Jezebel threatened the life of Elijah, so he fled to Judah (verse 2).

Elijah sat under a juniper tree, and prayed to die (verse 4).

Elijah got discouraged hiding for his life from Jesebel. He wanted to give up.

But God sent an angel to feed Elijah, and this encouraged Elijah.

God had great plans for Elijah, although Elijah did not know this at the time.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 20

Ben-Hadad King of Syria attacked Ahab King of Israel (verse 1)

Ben-Hadad was supported by 32 kings (verse 1)

At first Ahab agreed to the terms offered by Ben-Hadad (verse 4)

Then Ahab rejected the term after consulting the elders (verse 8)

A prophet told Ahab that God would give him victory over the Syrian host (verse 13)

The first battle was in the hills and the victory went to Ahab (verse 21)

The second battle was in the plains and Ahab killed 100,000 Syrians (verse 29)

The Syrians fled to Aphek. A wall fell on the Syrians killing 27,000 soldiers (verse 30)

Ben-Hadad offer Ahab land and cites if his life was spared (verse 34)

Ahab spared the life of Ben-Hadad. But this angered God. (verse 42)

Ahab was told by a prophet that this mistake would cost Ahab his own life (verse 42)

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 21

Todays story is Ahab covets Naboth's vineyard

Naboth had a vineyard next to the kings palace (verse 1)

Ahab wanted the vineyard for a garden. Ahab offered to buy it or give Naboth a better vineyard somewhere else (verse 2)

When Naboth said no, Ahab went to bed and refused to eat, such was his anger (verse 4)

Jezebel the wife of Ahab hatched a complicated plan to get Naboth stoned for blasphemy (verse 10)

So King Ahab got the vineyard that he wanted (verse 16)

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

1 Kings Chapter 21 verse 17

Elijah tells Ahab that he will die because of the murder of Naboth (verse 19)

And of Jezebel also spake the Lord saying, The dogs shall eat Jexebel by the walls of Jezreel (verse 23).

God also says that the male heirs of Ahab will also be wiped out (verse 24)

Part of this punishment upon Ahab was for encouraging the Israelites to worship idols (verse 26)