The Chapter-A-Day thread. (2)

[agamemnonoftroy]

Judges 21

The children of Israel had sworn and oath at Mizpeh that they would not give their daughters to anyone from the tribe of Benjamin.
(Judges 21 verse 1)

600 Benjamite soldiers had hidden in the rock of Rimmon.
(Judges 20 verse 47)

These 600 Benjamites now wanted wives. The children of Israel then decided that the tribe of Benjamin should be rebuilt and these men needed wives.
(Judges 21 verse 3)

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

The Israelites from Jabesh-gilead had not taken the oath, not to give their daughters to the tribe of Benjamin for wives.
(Judges 21 verse 8)

12,000 Israelite men of valour attacked Jabesh-gilead. They found 400 virgins that would make suitable wives for the 600 men of the tribe of Benjamin.
(Judges 21 verse 12)

Everyone else that lived in Jabesh-gilead was put to the sword. This included all the men, women and children living in Jabesh-gilead.
(Judges 21 verse 10)

All the people put to the sword in Jabesh-gilead were Israelites.
(Judges 21 verse 8)

Did the people of Jabesh-gilead get a fair deal out of this arrangement ?

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Brinny

Shiny did not post yesterday. Shiny read Judges 20 and 21 and found them too hard to understand. Shiny sent me a message that she decided not to post comments about these chapters because they were too difficult to understand.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

There were 600 Benjamites hiding in the rock of Rimmon. The 400 virgins were not enough.
(Joshua 21 verse 14)

In Shiloh there was a feast of the Lord yearly in a place on the north side of Bethel, in which girls come out and dance in the vineyards.
(Judges 21 verses 19)

The children of Israel suggested the any Benjamites that wanted wives should hide in the vineyards. If they saw a suitable wife they should come out of hiding and catch himself a wife from the daughters of Shiloh.
(Judges 21 verse 21)

Did the daughters of Shiloh get a fair deal out of this arrangement ?

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

And it shall be, when their father or their brethren come to us to complain, that we shall say unto them, Be favourable unto them for our sakes: because we reserved not to each man his wife in the war.
(Judges 21 verse 22)

And the children of Benjamin did so,and took them wives, according to their number, of of them that danced, whom they caught.
(Judges 21 verse 23)

Would that explanation have satisfied the fathers and brethren of the girls of Shiloh taken away by the Benjamites ?

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Brinny

Chapter 21 is very very very difficult to understand.
Brinny I think the answer lies in the very last verse of Chapter 21.

In those days there was no king of Isreal:
every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

(Judges 21 verse 25)

 

[brinny]

Brinny

Shiny did not post yesterday. Shiny read Judges 20 and 21 and found them too hard to understand. Shiny sent me a message that she decided not to post comments about these chapters because they were too difficult to understand.

I am where she is...this chapter 21 has been sooooo confusing to me (and so was chapter 20, except for the couple things i noticed about that i asked questions about)

Chapter 21 has totally left me speechless.....it did mention, tho' that every man did what was right in his own eyes....no wonder there was sooooooo much confusion

 

[brinny]

Brinny

Chapter 21 is very very very difficult to understand.
Brinny I think the answer lies in the very last verse of Chapter 21.

In those days there was no king of Isreal:
every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

(Judges 21 verse 25)

Yes, that is probably why it's so difficult to grasp or understand and why there is such chaos and confusion.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Book of Ruth

As an overview can I say the Book of Ruth is a beautiful love story. In the Book of Ruth there are no battles and no fighting. Just a lovely love story. I was so fascinated by the story that instead of reading just the first chapter, I read the whole book of Ruth. I could not put it down. The story was so beautifully captivating.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Book of Ruth Chapter 1

Elimelech left Bethlehem and went to the land of Moab because there was a famine in the land of Judah. Elimelech was an Ephraimite. He took with him his wife Naomi and his two sons Mahon and Chilion.

Mahon and Chilton married the Moabitish damsels Orpah and Ruth. Unfortunately Elimelech and his two sons Mahon and Chilion all died.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Book of Ruth Chapter 1 verse 16

Naomi decided to return to the land of Judah. Naomi told Orpah and Ruth to return to their original Moabite families. Orpah left but Ruth would not leave Naomi. Ruth said these wonderful words to Naomi.

Wither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Book of Ruth Chapter 1 verse 22

So Naomi returned to Bethlehem, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter in law, with her, which returned out of the country of Moab: and they came to Bethlehem in the beginning of the barley harvest.

Why was Ruth so keen to stay with her mother in law Naomi ?

 

[Shiny247]

I did find Judges 20 and 21 so difficult. The Levite told his story to the leaders of the Israelite tribes and they all agreed the Benjemites had to be punished. The Benjimites did not want to surrender the murderers of the concubine and I could not understand why, because it would have saved so much bloodshed.

For the first two days of the battle, the Israelites were losing and I could not understand why that was so. On the third day, Abba Father said He would give the Benjamites into their hands, and that is what happened.

Then the tribe: Jabesh-gilead, who did not turn up to the meeting, they all had to perish, except for the virgins who had to be wives for the remaining six hundred Benjamites so the tribe could continue.

Of course, I would never question Abba, as I know He always knows what He is doing, and He is always------always right.

I appreciate your posts agamemnonoftroy and brinny.

I am looking forward to writing something on the book of Ruth.

 

[Shiny247]

Book of Ruth

As an overview can I say the Book of Ruth is a beautiful love story. In the Book of Ruth there are no battles and no fighting. Just a lovely love story. I was so fascinated by the story that instead of reading just the first chapter, I read the whole book of Ruth. I could not put it down. The story was so beautifully captivating.

Awwwwwww......you old romantic. I know, I have a very visual mind and as I read, and I listen to the narration too.....it's like I see it all like a film. It really is an amazing story of love. Oh well, this isn't my commentary; that's for later. Have a lovely day everyone.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

I did find Judges 20 and 21 so difficult. The Levite told his story to the leaders of the Israelite tribes and they all agreed the Benjemites had to be punished. The Benjimites did not want to surrender the murderers of the concubine and I could not understand why, because it would have saved so much bloodshed.

For the first two days of the battle, the Israelites were losing and I could not understand why that was so. On the third day, Abba Father said He would give the Benjamites into their hands, and that is what happened.

Then the tribe: Jabesh-gilead, who did not turn up to the meeting, they all had to perish, except for the virgins who had to be wives for the remaining six hundred Benjamites so the tribe could continue.

Of course, I would never question Abba, as I know He always knows what He is doing, and He is always------always right.

I appreciate your posts agamemnonoftroy and brinny.

I am looking forward to writing something on the book of Ruth.

Chapter 21 is very very very difficult to understand.
Shiny I think the answer lies in the very last verse of Chapter 21.

In those days there was no king of Isreal:
every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

(Judges 21 verse 25)

It seems to me that the above verse tells us that they were all doing their own thing and not taking advice from God.

The children of Israel did some very harsh things in Judges 20 and 21. It did not seems to be things that God would have agreed to.

The first two attacks on the tribe of Benjamin failed. My suggestion for the failure is that they did not have a prophet that could actually communicate with God.

The tribe of Benjamin was tiny and it should have been a push over but instead the children of Israel took 40,000 casualties. Their action to get wives for the 600 Benjamites was not what we would have expected from God fearing people.

Today's study is the Book of Ruth. This is a beautiful book. It is a love story. It seems that the hand of God was guiding Ruth into a very special marriage.

Ruth married a man that was later to become the great grandfather of King David. King Davd was the greatest King that Israel were ever to have during their very long history.

 

[Shiny247]

Chapter 21 is very very very difficult to understand.
Shiny I think the answer lies in the very last verse of Chapter 21.

In those days there was no king of Isreal:
every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

(Judges 21 verse 25)

It seems to me that the above verse tells us that they were all doing their own thing and not taking advice from God.

The children of Israel did some very harsh things in Judges 20 and 21. It did not seems to be things that God would have agreed to.

The first two attacks on the tribe of Benjamin failed. My suggestion for the failure is that they did not have a prophet that could actually communicate with God.

The tribe of Benjamin was tiny and it should have been a push over but instead the children of Israel took 40,000 casualties. Their action to get wives for the 600 Benjamites was not what we would have expected from God fearing people.

Today's study is the Book of Ruth. This is a beautiful book. It is a love story. It seems that the hand of God was guiding Ruth into a very special marriage.

Ruth married a man that was later to become the great grandfather of King David. King David was the greatest King that Israel were ever to have during their very long history.

Thank you agamemnonoftroy, I really appreciate your commentary.

Looking at Ruth is going to be like a breath of fresh air in comparison to Judges 20 and 21.

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Ruth Chapter 2

Boaz was a mighty man of wealth. Boaz was of the Elimelech family and was a kinsman of Ruth's father in law. Ruth went to glean after the reapers in a field belonging to Boaz. The poor in those days were allowed to follow the reapers and pick up any tiny amounts of grain left behind by the reapers.

Was it a coincidence that Ruth chose to glean in this field ?

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Ruth 2 verse 5

Boaz asked, Whose damsel is this ?

The reply came, It is the Moabitish damsel that came back with Naomi out of the country of Moab.

Boaz said to Naomi, Go not to glean in another field, neither go from hence, but abide here fast by my maidens.

Boaz said to his reapers, Let fall also some of the handfuls of purpose for her, and leave them, that she may glean them (Verse 16).

Why did Boaz make this special concession to Ruth ?

 

[agamemnonoftroy]

Ruth 2 verse 23

So Ruth kept fast by the maidens of Boaz to glean unto the end of the barly harvest and of wheat harvest; and dwelt with her mother law.

Why was Naomi so pleased that Ruth was gleaning in the fields belonging to Boaz ?

 

[brinny]

Book of Ruth Chapter 1

Elimelech left Bethlehem and went to the land of Moab because there was a famine in the land of Judah. Elimelech was an Ephraimite. He took with him his wife Naomi and his two sons Mahon and Chilion.

Mahon and Chilton married the Moabitish damsels Orpah and Ruth. Unfortunately Elimelech and his two sons Mahon and Chilion all died.

Aaaah, a beautiful chapter, yes...and even as there was tragedy that Naomi's husband and two sons died, leaving just Ruth and her two daughters-in-law, there is now unfolding something beautiful. Ruth refuses to leave her mother in law Naomi, and even goes as far as to say this in verse 16:

verse 16: And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God: