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If " god" were omnipotent then it could lie as readily as i can.
So in your other post you said you were trying to believe but you have this snag of God being in a timeless realm holding you back?So what I'm saying is it can't be destined prior to time, since there is no time there's nothing before it. This is the view without god. I'm not saying God didn't cause it I'm just acknowledging the fact that Christians often use that argument. Thanks for your reply, means alot
I notice you say "it" instead of him....but ok that's where you're coming from .If " god" were omnipotent then it could lie as
readily as i can.
But it cannot, therefore it aint omnipotrnt.
I notice you say "it" instead of him....but ok that's where you're coming from .
You're reasoning though is extremely faulty. To you one which is omnipotent could not have character or personality. If he has such and cannot lie because of his character you would call that a limitation. That's just a strange esoteric way of looking at omnipotence. . It's like saying if God can't create a round square he's not omnipotent either.
Omnipotent means "unlimited power, " able to do
anything" , there is no "with exveptions ". No " cannot".
You're right. I don't believe a word of it. Although it's somewhat astonishing that you don't.I assert that everything you've posted here is false.
Yeah sure! You just finished telling us thatOmnipotent means "unlimited power, " able to do
anything" , there is no "with exveptions ". No " cannot".
That you find it necessary to invent a definition
to custom fit your argument, and pretend that
nonsense ( square circle) is as impossible as
the Omnipotent telling a lie ( anyone can do it)
doesnt begin to reach up to the level of " faulty".
Its closer to lying.
Im not saying that.Yeah sure! You just finished telling us that
Omnipotent means "unlimited power, " able to do
anything" , there is no "with exveptions "
If you're going to say that's what it means then stay with what it means. So if that what it means WHAT YOU SAID then you're saying if he can't create a round square then he's not omnipotent. You said....there is no "with exveptions "
They will love your rewriting the dictionary.
Perhaps. Or perhaps they'll consider you're being silly. You said omnipotence has to mean an ability to do something with no exceptions (your post #84) and I gave you a scenario that God can't make circle squares and you seem to agree he couldn't and I was amiss to even give that illustration..... but you said prior.....NO EXCEPTIONS. So who really is trying to rewrite things?They will love your rewriting the dictionary.
I know you are confused, cantPerhaps. Or perhaps they'll consider you're being silly. You said omnipotence has to mean an ability to do something with no exceptions (your post #84) and I gave you a scenario that God can't make circle squares and you seem to agree he couldn't and I was amiss to even give that illustration..... but you said prior.....NO EXCEPTIONS. So who really is trying to rewrite things?
It's a good question- the age old question of 'first cause' or 'infinite regression'Ok so I'm trying to become a Christian. However, in the back of my head I keep creating questions. For instance, how can you say God created everything before the big bang (God being an uncaused first cause) and not the bang itself. I know some will say there is a cause and effect. Yes, but this situation is different because it's before time. A cause cannot be before matter and time so it was nothing. Therefore the bang be an uncaused first cause. I don't understand how God can be one but the bang itself cannot. Thanks for your help.
Can you build a car without a blueprint.Ok so I'm trying to become a Christian. However, in the back of my head I keep creating questions. For instance, how can you say God created everything before the big bang (God being an uncaused first cause) and not the bang itself. I know some will say there is a cause and effect. Yes, but this situation is different because it's before time. A cause cannot be before matter and time so it was nothing. Therefore the bang be an uncaused first cause. I don't understand how God can be one but the bang itself cannot. Thanks for your help.
When the story of creation begins, the earth, water, sun, moon and stars are already existing. I don’t know how long they were existing or how they came to exist. The earth must have existed for billions of years according to science. At the beginning of the creation story any life that had previously existed had become extinct and the earth as it is there is covered by water.Ok so I'm trying to become a Christian. However, in the back of my head I keep creating questions. For instance, how can you say God created everything before the big bang (God being an uncaused first cause) and not the bang itself. I know some will say there is a cause and effect. Yes, but this situation is different because it's before time. A cause cannot be before matter and time so it was nothing. Therefore the bang be an uncaused first cause. I don't understand how God can be one but the bang itself cannot. Thanks for your help.
Waterfalls, crysral caves, mountain ranges all
were built from blueprints!
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