Trivalee said:
I have read your argument and it does not align with scripture. I don't have the time or the patience to teach you, so I wish you well.
The Catholic Church has been promoting a lot of false doctrines for nigh 1000 years and counting, if you believe them, then you must believe the fairies are real.
It is true the Catholic Church has many false doctrines...
but it is silly to pretend ALL their doctrines are false.
That is a STRAWMAN argument and proves nothing
BTW... I notice you intentionally ignored the fact that the Protestant
church has faithfully taught an A-Millennial Kingdom since the Reformation.
The Apostles never taught the AMIL doctrine you are peddling. We are expressly told when the 1000 years begins and when it ends in scripture. It is inexplicable how you and your ilk turned something quite literal into mere symbolism.
Of course the Apostles taught a A-Millennial Kingdom.
I showed you
WHERE in the previous post
I will post it again and maybe, this time
you will not
INTENTIONALLY IGNORE?
2Th 2:1-5
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
WHY in the world would first century Christian THINK the Lord's Return was imminent?
Because the Apostles
NEVER taught there would be a
LITERAL 1000 year period.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
OK... let's look at the
CONTEXT again (and again and again)
Rev 20:1-4 shows the
THIRD BEAST on earth which exists
WHILE Satan is bound in the Pit
This
THIRD BEAST represents the Great Commission of the Church Age.
All Saints must be "
sealed" before the Great Tribulation [Rev 7:1-3]
Rev 20:1-3
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a Little Season.
Rev 20:7-8 shows the
FOURTH BEAST on earth which exists
AFTER Satan is released from the Pit
This
FOURTH BEAST represents
(1) Daniel's Fourth Beast and
(2) the Revelation Beast and
(3) the Great Tribulation "
Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] and
(4) the RULE of the Anit-Christ during
(5) Satan's "
Little Season"
Rev 20:7-8
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog,
to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Bottom Line:
When you
ASSUME Rev 20 is showing
ONE BEAST you demonstrate you are clueless. It clearly shows
ONE BEAST on earth
WHILE Satan is bound in the Pit and
ONE BEAST on earth
AFTER Satan is released from the Pit.
If you cannot HARMONIZE this reality then you demonstrate you have not found Biblical Truth
When the battle of Armageddon ended, we see the Antichrist and his False Prophet cast alive into the lake of fire and brimstone (Rev 19:19-20). Next, we see Satan bound and cast into the bottomless pit for 1000 years; this tells us when the 1000 years or millennium rule begins.
LOL... that is hilarious.
It is true that Rev 19:20 shows the False Prophet and Revelation Beast being "
cast alive into the Lake of Fire"...
this happens at the
END of the
FOURTH BEAST.
This is clearly taught in Daniel 7:11-12
Here we find the
FOURTH BEAST is destroyed.
However, Rev 20:10 happens
AFTER the Fourth Beast is destroyed...
A "
Season and Time" after that event.
While this was not taught or understood by Saints living during the (2nd) Jewish Kingdom/Beast,
and while this was never taught or understood by Saints living in the (3rd) Christian Kingdom/Beast,
the Bible speaks (in many places) about a period
AFTER the destruction of the Fourth/Revelation Beast,
during a time specifically named the “
Season and Time”. The Gospel of the Last Saints includes this Truth.
Dan 7:11-12
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the [Little] Horn spake:
I beheld even till the [Fourth] Beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the Burning Flame.
As concerning the rest of the Beasts [the remaining Beasts], they had their dominion taken away:
yet their lives were prolonged for a Season and Time.
The Old Testament is very clear, there is a “
Season and Time” on earth
after the destruction of the Fourth Beast
(Revelation Beast), in which the previous Beasts continue to exist on earth, just without “
dominion” (authority/rule).
The Bible teaches a “
Season and Time” on earth after people of the Fourth Kingdom are “
given to the Burning Flame”.
Remembering the end of Daniel’s Fourth Beast is the SAME EVENT as the end of the Revelation Beast, we should
be able to find parallel passages about this end-time event in the New Testament – and that is exactly what we find:
Rev 19:20
And the [Revelation] Beast was taken, and with him the False Prophet [the Anti-Christ]
that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the Mark of the Beast,
and them that worshipped his Image. These both were cast alive into a Lake of Fire burning with brimstone.
You don’t need to be a Bible scholar to see Daniel’s Fourth Beast being “given to the Burning Flame”
is the same event as the Revelation Beast being “cast alive into the Lake of Fire”. In both cases it represents
the end of the Fourth “Kingdom” on earth. In both cases it represents the end of the Great Tribulation “Kingdom”
and the end of Satan’s “Little Season”. In both cases it represents the people of the Fourth Kingdom being “cast alive”
into the eternal torment most people think of as “Hell”.
And that causes a problem for the (3rd) Christian Kingdom Gospel. Christian eschatology doesn’t teach about
people living on earth for a “
Season and Time”
after Daniel’s Fourth Beast (the Revelation Beast) is destroyed.
The Christian Gospel does not even include a Fourth “
Kingdom of Heaven” after the Church Age is completed.
The Christian Gospel cannot harmonize some people living on earth
after others have been “
cast alive” into the
“
Burning Flame” or “
Lake of Fire”. This Biblical Truth remained “
closed-up” and “
sealed” until the Last Saints.
Christian Saints were
never meant to understand the historical fulfillment of “
Time of the End” events [Acts 1:7].
Just as the Jewish Saints were
never meant to understand the end of their “
Kingdom”, so also, Christian Saints
were never meant to understand the end of their “
Kingdom of Heaven”. The Jewish Gospel and Christian Gospel
did not understand Daniel’s Fourth “
Kingdom/Beast”. Those Truths remained “
sealed” until the “
Time of the End”.
Dan 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the TIME-OF-THE-END
many [Last Saints] shall run to and fro, and knowledge [about the Gospel] shall be increased.
Dan 12:8-10
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed TILL THE TIME-OIF-THE-END.
Many [Last Saints] shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly:
and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise [Last Saints] SHALL UNDERSTAND.
Make no mistake, the Bible
PROMISES that, when the Lord Returns, the Last Saints
are
NOT preaching the Gospel of the (2nd) Jewish "
Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2]
and they are
NOT preaching the Great Commission Gospel of the (3rd) Christian
"
Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13, in 7 verses] and they are
NOT preaching the Gospel
of the (4th) Great Tribulation "
Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
Instead, when the Lord Returns the Last Saints are preaching the
historical fulfillment
of Great Tribulation prophecies that Jesus
PROMISED they "
shall see ALL these things" [Mat 24:33]
and they are preaching Biblical mysteries that remained "
closed-up" and "
sealed" to all previous Saints
(both OT and NT Saints) until the Last Saints "
shall understand" during a period of time which is specifically
named the "
Time-of-the-End"
When someone
INTENTIONALLY IGNORES Matthew 24:33 and Daniel 12:8-10 then they remain "
willfully ignorant"
of what the Bible teaches about the "
Time-of-the-End".... the period
AFTER the destruction of the Fourth Beast
[Dan 7:11-12 and Rev 19:20]
This is called "harmony of Scripture"... where
ALL RELATED VERSES harmonize.
We cannot even pretend to have found Biblical Truth unless/until we have found
harmony of
ALL RELATED passages.
Jim
