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Thats your expectation, when you feel the pain it will be different.they feel no pain, as the Lord puts them under a kind of trance. Beheading too, is a very quick and sure death.
And your expectation is that you will not be there when this happen...that you will be wisked away just before the hard time.... sweet dream !!!...Thats your expectation.
I said you never have a bloody tribulation from the devil like Job did. thats why you think the tribulation will happen in the tribulation.If the tribulation is to happen tomorrow you will be there also..
Revelation 13I said you never have a bloody tribulation from the devil like Job did. thats why you think the tribulation will happen in the tribulation.
Find the word "dead" there and show us, or quit making such statements that cannot be backed up by scripture.Explain to us what the 'making ready of the Bride' would be.
How do those worthy to wear the white linen clothing gain their righteous deeds and their invitation to the Lord's feast?
Note: that the crowd in heaven of Revelation 19:1-8, are dead people. They are the souls of the martyrs, as described in Revelation 6:9-11, that praise God for finally taking vengeance on their killers. verse 2b
The rapture is there in scripture for all who can believe what is written. If you wish to remain behind and "tribulate" you can; I am sure God will leave you behind since that is your belief.Typical nonsense from a confused and deceived person; deceived and locked into false beliefs.
The sad thing, is that when things do get difficult and you are not taken to heaven as you think, you may not have the spiritual strength to stand firm in your faith.
Just post the scriptural proof of a 'rapture to heaven' and I will be quite happy to concede and join in your belief. If you can't find any rapture proof, then you must reconsider your beliefs and find our what God really does want of you.
The real truth is the voices heard in Revelation 19:1-7 are the souls of the martyrs, proved by how they thank God for taking vengeance on their murderers. verse 2bFind the word "dead" there and show us, or quit making such statements that cannot be backed up by scripture.
The truth is, they are the same crowd John saw that was too large to number.
Then why don't you provide a proof scripture that says God will take His Church to heaven?The rapture is there in scripture for all who can believe what is written. If you wish to remain behind and "tribulate" you can; I am sure God will leave you behind since that is your belief.
However, you could begin to believe Luke 21:36. As we are going up, if I see you, I will shout, "don't take the mark!" However, my guess is, it will be too fast.
Rev. 19:The real truth is the voices heard in Revelation 19:1-7 are the souls of the martyrs, proved by how they thank God for taking vengeance on their murderers. verse 2b
The vast multitude seen by John in Revelation 7:9 are the Lord's holy people from every race and nation, that are gathered in the holy Land soon after the just happened Sixth Seal event.
Then why don't you provide a proof scripture that says God will take His Church to heaven?
Luke 21:36 is mis-translated in some Bibles, as 'escape from all these things'. In correct translations, it is rendered as pass safely through all that is coming....
It cannot be an escape out of the world that is meant, because that contradicts Luke 21:34-35, where we are told the Lord's Day of wrath will suddenly come upon everyone.
Left behind? I am more than happy to stay where I can fulfil what the Lord has for me to do.
I expect to see you, iamlamad, and you will be very ashamed of how you believed and taught error.
You might meditate on Luke 21:36 and on how many times in the gospels we find the word "watch." It seems that Jesus is coming for those who are expecting Him and watching for Him.I guess the different opinion of pretribber and post tribber doesnt necessarily cause someone to be left behind, God judges people's
heart. The hearts that love and forgive others.
I think we all hv the same chance of Salvation whether we are pretribber or a postribber, if one of these is wrong we pray Jesus will teach the wrong one.You might meditate on Luke 21:36 and on how many times in the gospels we find the word "watch." It seems that Jesus is coming for those who are expecting Him and watching for Him.
It puzzles me how anyone who believes in a posttrib rapture can be expecting Jesus to come tomorrow.
Have you ever studied the last verse of Hebrews 9? Read it in every translation you can find: they all give the same idea. He came once to solve the sin problem. He will come again, but the next time, NOT to solve the sin problem, but for a different purpose. Young's literal does a good job:I think we all hv the same chance of Salvation whether we are pretribber or a postribber, if one of these is wrong we pray Jesus will teach the wrong one.
Do a search about Messianic Salvation ...you will see that it is not about being taken out of the Earth while you are alive... Jesus SAVE OR SOUL...SO WE WILL NOT END INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE LIKE THE UNREPENTANT SINNERS.Have you ever studied the last verse of Hebrews 9? Read it in every translation you can find: they all give the same idea. He came once to solve the sin problem. He will come again, but the next time, NOT to solve the sin problem, but for a different purpose. Young's literal does a good job:
So also the Christ, once having been offered to bear the sins of many, a second time, apart from a sin-offering, shall appear, to those waiting for him -- to salvation!
I'm not a Jew or a Hebrew. I am very much a Gentile and a part of the Gentile body of Christ on earth. One end times scripture that pertains to the Gentile church is 1 Thes. 4 & 5. this IS about being taken off the Earth. We are going to heaven. If you wish to get left behind, and face beheading, go right ahead on!Do a search about Messianic Salvation ...you will see that it is not about being taken out of the Earth while you are alive... Jesus SAVE OR SOUL...SO WE WILL NOT END INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE LIKE THE UNREPENTANT SINNERS.
The Gentiles [you and me] who believe in Jesus are also part of the same promises given to Abraham, since the gentiles believers have been grafted into the Olive Tree 2,000 years ago....I'm not a Jew or a Hebrew. I am very much a Gentile and a part of the Gentile body of Christ on earth.
Look carefully at 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 THERE IS NO MENTION THAT JESUS WILL RETURN TO HEAVEN WITH SOMEONE AFTER THE RESURRECTION....One end times scripture that pertains to the Gentile church is 1 Thes. 4 & 5. this IS about being taken off the Earth. We are going to heaven. If you wish to get left behind, and face beheading, go right ahead on!
The text is about DEAD Believers And Believers who are Alive caught up together to meet Jesus in THE AIR. It DOES NOT say anything about coming to earth ....; your added opinion is not scripture just your opinion!The text is about DEAD Believers who will be resurrected out of their GRAVES ...and the believers STILL alive AND REMAIN who will be caught up in the clouds together WITH THEM to meet Jesus in THE AIR
The text in KJV say alive AND REMAIN...do a search about the word REMAIN....The text is about DEAD Believers And Believers who are Alive caught up together to meet Jesus in THE AIR.
The text say ALIVE AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD -----> THERE IS NO MENTION THAT JESUS WILL RETURN TO HEAVEN WITH SOMEONE.It DOES NOT say anything about coming to earth ....; your added opinion is not scripture just your opinion!
A time of comfort for the believers who will be alive and REMAIN ...UNTO HIS COMING.IF you study this refers to a time of comfort for believers and no mention of Jesus being seen
Riberra, you should be ashamed! We don't go by ONE SCRIPTURE but by all the end times scriptures. OTHER scriptures and all of them together show that we spend the 7 years with Jesus in heaven. I am sorry that you don't believe that, for it is truth.The Gentiles [you and me] who believe in Jesus are also part of the same promises given to Abraham, since the gentiles believers have been grafted into the Olive Tree 2,000 years ago....
Eternal Life into The Kingdom Of God who will be established on the Earth.
Look carefully at 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 THERE IS NO MENTION THAT JESUS WILL RETURN TO HEAVEN WITH SOMEONE AFTER THE RESURRECTION....
The text is about DEAD Believers who will be resurrected out of their GRAVES ...and the believers STILL alive AND REMAIN who will be caught up in the clouds together WITH THEM to meet Jesus in THE AIR AT HIS COMING.
When Jesus will descend from Heaven that will be to establish His KINGDOM ON THE EARTH...
Comfort referring to being removed "harpazo" snatched away to attend the marriage ceremony of Jesus ,,you can believe whatever you desire, your view that everyone must be beheaded is way off base and definitely not scriptural , many will be beheaded or shot to death but certainly not everyoneA time of comfort for the believers who will be alive and REMAIN ...UNTO HIS COMING.
Yet,you are unable to present one verse saying textually that the Church will be taken to Heaven before the Tribulation.Riberra, you should be ashamed! We don't go by ONE SCRIPTURE but by all the end times scriptures. OTHER scriptures and all of them together show that we spend the 7 years with Jesus in heaven. I am sorry that you don't believe that, for it is truth.
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